[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #1 Posted March 7, 2022 I love the new bot in CoOp/PvE, they are a real challenge now and better than most players Defeats to bot teams are real now. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #2 Posted March 7, 2022 ........ .................. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaravellaCaravan ∞ Players 177 posts 5,585 battles Report post #3 Posted March 7, 2022 I haven't noticed any change. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #4 Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, CaravellaCaravan said: I haven't noticed any change. Maybe it's not the bots that have changed... 3 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FLASH] DirtyHeddy Players 1,138 posts 27,780 battles Report post #5 Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: I love the new bot in CoOp/PvE, they are a real challenge now and better than most players I did not notice any improvement. The bots are dumb as ever, run into islands, do not dodge torpedos. So what were You playing ? 1 hour ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: Defeats to bot teams are real now. Not really ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,919 battles Report post #6 Posted March 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Maybe it's not the bots that have changed... Perhaps I ought to try Randoms But, yeah the bot AI doesn't seem much different to me. I don't think we have to worry about it becoming the next Skynet. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MACLD] Onsterfelijke Players 993 posts 18,864 battles Report post #7 Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: I love the new bot in CoOp/PvE, they are a real challenge now and better than most players Defeats to bot teams are real now. I think the OP is insulting the player base .... well done Sir 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BATES] Furiousacerimmer Players 90 posts 18,343 battles Report post #8 Posted March 7, 2022 I noticed a bot CV pushing into the centre. That's definitely new behaviour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #9 Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Furiousacerimmer said: I noticed a bot CV pushing into the centre. That's definitely new behaviour. How did it miss the islands? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,919 battles Report post #10 Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: How did it miss the islands? Ocean map maybe? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #11 Posted March 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, DirtyHeddy said: I did not notice any improvement. The bots are dumb as ever, run into islands, do not dodge torpedos. So what were You playing ? Not really ... CoOp and there was a markedly different playing style by the bots today, even had a 150k damage defeat in the Talinn. Might just be a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,919 battles Report post #12 Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: CoOp and there was a markedly different playing style by the bots today, even had a 150k damage defeat in the Talinn. Might just be a coincidence. How many bots were on your team though? They always seem to play worse than the reds. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FLASH] DirtyHeddy Players 1,138 posts 27,780 battles Report post #13 Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: CoOp and there was a markedly different playing style by the bots today, even had a 150k damage defeat in the Talinn. There have been a few notices of improved bot-behaviour recently, but I never encountered them. 2 minutes ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: Might just be a coincidence. I do not find any other explanation - maybe except a server error ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #14 Posted March 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said: How many bots were on your team though? They always seem to play worse than the reds. One other human player, which I didn't initially realise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRS] The_Pillager Beta Tester 2,526 posts 15,601 battles Report post #15 Posted March 7, 2022 I switched to WoT at the moment, but my last coop matches had a few unusual bots, too. Nothing too extraordinary, just taking new routes and building new "teams". At least it seemed new to me and I am playing coop regularly for missions. For example on Fault Line the bots coming all in one streched group through middle and focussing then onto the weaker side of the human players. And of course they mercilessly focus low health players. Thats something the bots do a lot better than human players in random But all-in-all it the bots are very predictable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,919 battles Report post #16 Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said: One other human player, which I didn't initially realise Yup, if you spot loads of bots on your team, make sure you have your carry-pants on as there's a good chance they'll do their best to throw the match. If you do win in those matches though it can be quite profitable. A 180k win on your Tallinn would have been nice, especially if you had eco signals/camo fitted. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] G01ngToxicCommand0 Beta Tester 2,177 posts 23,318 battles Report post #17 Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Yup, if you spot loads of bots on your team, make sure you have your carry-pants on as there's a good chance they'll do their best to throw the match. If you do win in those matches though it can be quite profitable. A 180k win on your Tallinn would have been nice, especially if you had eco signals/camo fitted. Received about 2.9k xp on that defeat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,919 battles Report post #18 Posted March 7, 2022 Actually, having criticized the bots I have noticed a few Standard battle matches now where they do go for your team's base now. A couple of the new Pan-Asian cruisers (Rahmats IIRC) managed to sneak through the middle and smoke up in our base. Surprisingly they stopped inside their smoke screen and captured our base. So well done bots, I guess. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] Kruzenstern Beta Tester 1,133 posts 5,975 battles Report post #19 Posted March 7, 2022 Actually the bots in Coop DO seem to be different since some time last week (maybe that hotfix?). They now don't always just mindlessly push forward from their starting point, but often go all over the place, sometimes from top left to the rightmost cap or somesuch. Often they crash into an island and just stand still there until someone kills them. This actually makes it a bit harder for DDs to torp everything in short order, but it also means easier broadsiding from BBs and cruisers. So in the end it might even be a little fairer (DDs not so dominating) but it feels terribly stupid. Looks like they tried to make bots more similar to the vast majority of players and succeeded... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #20 Posted March 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said: Actually the bots in Coop DO seem to be different since some time last week (maybe that hotfix?). They now don't always just mindlessly push forward from their starting point, but often go all over the place, sometimes from top left to the rightmost cap or somesuch. Often they crash into an island and just stand still there until someone kills them. This actually makes it a bit harder for DDs to torp everything in short order, but it also means easier broadsiding from BBs and cruisers. So in the end it might even be a little fairer (DDs not so dominating) but it feels terribly stupid. Looks like they tried to make bots more similar to the vast majority of players and succeeded... Don't forget how they now seem very eager to ram you as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FLASH] DirtyHeddy Players 1,138 posts 27,780 battles Report post #21 Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, NewHorizons_1 said: Actually, having criticized the bots I have noticed a few Standard battle matches now where they do go for your team's base now. A couple of the new Pan-Asian cruisers (Rahmats IIRC) managed to sneak through the middle and smoke up in our base. Surprisingly they stopped inside their smoke screen and captured our base. So well done bots, I guess. If that is so, we have a first step into a real AI If they regain the ability to dodge torpedos and islands (which they had before !) and a reasonable threat assessment then we could have fun again in COOP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLAPP] lameoll Players 1,792 posts 10,834 battles Report post #22 Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, DirtyHeddy said: did not notice any improvement. The bots are dumb as ever, run into islands, do not dodge torpedos. So what were You playing ? EXactly! they play way better then players 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,919 battles Report post #23 Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, DirtyHeddy said: If that is so, we have a first step into a real AI If they regain the ability to dodge torpedos and islands (which they had before !) and a reasonable threat assessment then we could have fun again in COOP Estuary map seems to be a fave with the bots trying to take capture zones. Just had another match (this time Domination mode) where I gratuitously farmed defended ribbons on the DDs and CLs. Though getting chunky with the Nagato was nice too. Fortunately secondary spec Lutjens in command. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #24 Posted March 7, 2022 Not sure if sarcasm. OR did the player base finally reached the bottom. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOC] NewHorizons_1 [AMOC] Players 3,860 posts 46,919 battles Report post #25 Posted March 7, 2022 For the last couple of patches Royal Navy cruisers and destroyers ripple fire their torps differently. They used to fire the torps in quick succession, single file. If those hit it was often game over. Now they fire one at a time with a few seconds in between, almost like they're checking to see if their target is still afloat. Fire torp, did that hit? No, fire another. Did that hit? No fire another and so on. It does mean you sometimes still have to be careful though. I thought a Neptune had fired its torps at a team mate, but it still had a couple in reserve for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
