Gibraltar and RB points

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hi , i hope you guys all doing well ,,

 

from the beginning of RB ships started i didn't buy any ship and i was trying to save my points to ship that i will not regret buying it .

 

i was happy that they released a cruiser , and i bought it , its gibraltar ,

 

acrually i regret spending these points on this ship ,

 

it has very long concealment range , and very poooor armor ,

 

and normal healing not the super heal like other UK ships .

 

well , RB points are the most hard points to get in game for me at least , its needs alot of effort .

 

im asking my self alot of quistions , why there is no TRY for the ship before you buy it ?

 

at least rent it for few battles , even if it is 1 day rent only , so buyer can know what ship he will play ,

 

actually i was hoping that WG will buff the ship , but it already long time without any sign of changes coming .

 

the guns reloading is long , and the guns not effective for angling targets ,

 

i was fighting GK today , i was shooted him about 90 hit , got damage in 40 k only ,

 

bad concealment

bad armor

bad guns against some ragets ,

 

so what to do ? didnt see a ship can be usless much like this one 

 

its a miracle when i find my self in no bbs battle in ranked , i can do something in the battle ,

 

other wise , i guess mino has better things to play with ,

 

and the HARD points that i collected i cant get it back sadly .

[SkipperCH]

Trying out a ship before buying could lead to you not buying something. It's that simple. if you know if a ship is good or bad, or fits your playstyle you can choose to get it or not get it. But after you bought it you already spent your ressources.

 

In such cases I can just advise to ask people who are testers whether or not they bought the ship after it got released and if not why. I personally haven't bought Gibraltar and I definitely know why. 

[hypsar]

56 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

Trying out a ship before buying could lead to you not buying something.

brilliant answer from the moderator

this is russian way of doing business

after 10+k battles you should've known that

[SkipperCH]

This isn't about my position. This is simple economics. 

[Wulf_Ace]

1 hour ago, SkipperCH said:

Trying out a ship before buying could lead to you not buying something. 

 

 

hahah, yeah that would ruin Wargaming, to give people a choice before buying.

 

BUT after 17k battles you should know better

1. you can see reviews on the youtube how is the ship

2. most ships you can go and install test server and try them all out

3. you can play 1 battle then ask support to give you back your resources.

 

you are shocked about his reload, well his reload is not a secret,you can see it on wowswiki page,same as his concleament.

 

They COULD maybe give us a chance to test ships in training room before buying, but as this guy said,its in WG interest that you make a mistake and buy them more and more,which leads in playing more and more.

 

 

[tocqueville8]

1 hour ago, SkipperCH said:

Trying out a ship before buying could lead to you not buying something. It's that simple.

 

17 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

This isn't about my position. This is simple economics. 

 

Is it, really?

 

In the USA, a country that reveres capitalism and salesmanship, custumers are generally welcome to return products, no questions asked.

[hypsar]

21 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

This isn't about my position. This is simple economics. 

well, ive seen your and your company's moral values so no surprise there ...

a bit below used car salesman  ...

out of curiosity - does the CH in your name point to czech republic?

 

[SkipperCH]

Vor 1 Minute, hypsar sagte:

well, ive seen your and your company's moral values so no surprise there ...

I'm not an employee of Wargaming.

Vor 1 Minute, hypsar sagte:

out of curiosity - does the CH in your name point to czech republic?

It simply doesn't. Like many know the CH stands for Confoederatio Helvetica.

 

Vor 3 Minuten, tocqueville8 sagte:

Is it, really?

In the USA, a country that reveres capitalism and salesmanship, custumers are generally welcome to return products, no questions asked.

For "real" goods this is true, yes. But digital goods usually are a completely different story. 

[Chaoskraehe]

I enjoy her a lot in random. You have to be careful but she can get high damage numbers and kills. Against DD's she's just lethal. Many DD's sunk after 1-3 volleys. 

 

You have to be around 8-12km away for the best result in my experience. 

 

But she is not made for ranked or brawl

[hypsar]

4 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

I'm not an employee of Wargaming.

you eagerly represent them here ... so it is close enough for me

[SV_Kompresor]

7 minutes ago, hypsar said:

you eagerly represent them here ... so it is close enough for me

So you're telling me that flamu was also an employee of wargaming the whole time he was a CC? Welp there's one more reason for me to dislike the guy.

[hypsar]

8 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

So you're telling me that flamu was also an employee of wargaming the whole time he was a CC? Welp there's one more reason for me to dislike the guy.

sort of ... and your love affairs are not my concern

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i wish it was possible selling my RB ship for half the cost or even coal or steel , lets keep dubloons ships out side this so it stay not economical talk .

[SV_Kompresor]

3 minutes ago, hypsar said:

sort of ... and your love affairs are not my concern

No worries....no love was lost there.

[Miscommunication_dept]

It’s not a terrible ship and has some appeal. Clapping destroyers for 20k is lovely but in the end it feels like aDesmoines with much lower dpm and smoke instead of radar. The smoke is also faintly useless unless you stay at range and farm but you really want to be close enough to wack destroyers.

 

Its ok but probably one of the last RB ships I would recommend.

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1 minute ago, gopher31 said:

It’s not a terrible ship and has some appeal. Clapping destroyers for 20k is lovely but in the end it feels like aDesmoines with much lower dpm and smoke instead of radar. The smoke is also faintly useless unless you stay at range and farm but you really want to be close enough to wack destroyers.

 

Its ok but probably one of the last RB ships I would recommend.

i agree that it can hit dds nicely , but the question is how to spot this dd inside your range while he spot you in a bad concealment ?

 

sadly no radar !

[SkipperCH]

You're dependent on your teams spotting. Like a Minotaur. 

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29 minutes ago, SkipperCH said:

You're dependent on your teams spotting. Like a Minotaur. 

i play mino with radar and i dont need someone to spot for me ,

 

 

took down 37 planes , was the AA useful ? 

 

 

this ship gives me impression like its made of white cork

[tocqueville8]

6 hours ago, BlueMerry said:

i was happy that they released a cruiser , and i bought it , its gibraltar ,

 

What kind of prankster recommended you to get the Gibraltar first?

 

There are at least four RB ships I would get (and I got) before that thing

[albin322]

meaby check a review of what you buy beforehand ? 

[WeGreedy]

4 minutes ago, albin322 said:

meaby check a review of what you buy beforehand ? 

Nah, come on. Complaining in here afterwards is waaaay better. And easier.

[WeGreedy]

7 hours ago, BlueMerry said:

from the beginning of RB ships started i didn't buy any ship and i was trying to save my points to ship that i will not regret buying it .

Yet you bought the ship without informing yourself about it.

Maybe you get WG to setting back your account to before you bought it. I don't know.

[WorthyOpponent]

16 hours ago, BlueMerry said:

i was happy that they released a cruiser , and i bought it , its gibraltar ,

 

Question:
There are 2 more options in the RB for cruisers, Siegfried and Colbert, Colbert being there since pretty much the beginning. What made you choose Gibraltar? I'm just curious. The only thing you mention there is being a cruiser which doesn't make Gibraltar stand out anyway.

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11 hours ago, albin322 said:

meaby check a review of what you buy beforehand ? 

i bought it after it released in the server immediately , you cannot find review for ships in YouTube or no where too early , i think before the release of the ship 2 days maybe the testers uploaded videos on YouTube for the ship  , and most their play not like my play style , most their play just smoke and spam , or hide behind island and spam , 

 

and i play my own setting in modules and commander settings which you cannot know how it will perform without trying it .

12 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

 

What kind of prankster recommended you to get the Gibraltar first?

 

There are at least four RB ships I would get (and I got) before that thing

because i like T 10 cruisers only .

 

11 hours ago, WeGreedy said:

Nah, come on. Complaining in here afterwards is waaaay better. And easier.

you are talking about things already happened and it is in the past ,

 

this never helps at all . 

 

11 hours ago, WeGreedy said:

Yet you bought the ship without informing yourself about it.

Maybe you get WG to setting back your account to before you bought it. I don't know.

many players tried this before , WG not helps after you play the ship .

 

1 hour ago, WorthyOpponent said:

Question:
There are 2 more options in the RB for cruisers, Siegfried and Colbert, Colbert being there since pretty much the beginning. What made you choose Gibraltar? I'm just curious. The only thing you mention there is being a cruiser which doesn't make Gibraltar stand out anyway.

Siegfried is T9 , i like T 10 much more . actually i was thinking of Siegfried , but man , 26 seconds reload for 6 guns for a cruiser , not that good , also another thing i see some people complaining about Siegfried nerfed and it is another reason to stay away from it .

 

and i was seeing Colbert around in battles much , so i know what kind of ships it is , i don't like hide and spam play style , and when i said maybe i will see her data , surprised with only 127 mm guns , didn't like the caliber honestly .

 

i was reading Dev blog for too long before releasing Gibraltar , and i was already cant wait until they release it , thats why i bought it immediately , also i told my self , WG will not release another cruiser before 1 or 2 next years , it was shocking that they announced Sevastopol is the next coming RB ship .

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im not saying Gibraltar is that bad ship , but it needs some fixings ,

 

reduce the concealment .

or

increase the HP .

give her radar

increase healing points like other UK ships .

 

 

i guess the concealment is the BIGGEST issue in this ship , 

 

minimum concealment possible now is 12.6

fun fact : i think its the same as Schlieffen concealment and Schlieffen's secondary's , Schlieffen secondary's can eat this ship in no time . no way to run .

 

it is very big cruiser and has high height , and too thin armor , and bad concealment , surviving it is extremely hard .