Will anyone grind/pay for the next Dockyard ship?

[anonym_ntfKigmJ0k9e]

Because I certainly will not any more. All Dockyard ships are (s)crap.  I'm so much disappointed. The last straw was that Marlborough, beautiful and useless Port Queen.

Why should I pay my money for flawed and underpowered ships? If I'm paying I expect to get something good in return.

 

Wargaming expects me to PAY to get WORSE ship than in standard tech tree? LOL

 

Game over!  

 

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

By definition, non tech tree ships should be worse than the tech tree ships...

 

No, the good colonel has not hijacked my account.

[Camperdown]

I have never bought a dockyard ship and never will.

[SV_Kompresor]

D7P is alright.

[Verblonde]

Depends on a number of factors:

• What's the ship and is it fun/interesting? Not really concerned too much about it being actively good, as long as it's fun, although ZF-6 is actually pretty decent.
• Do I need steel enough to warrant some whaling? In that case, the ship is almost a secondary consideration.
• Have WG been monumental Richard Edwards recently? If yes, then the spending reduces/stops.
• Do I have time to play enough for the thing to be a cost-effective exercise?

[tocqueville8]

I had some 2k losses/3k wins in the D7P that were a lot of fun, but my WR is below-average. She definitely lacks stopping power.

 

The Odin, however, is the ship that carried me through the final ranks the first time I ranked out, after I hit a wall with the Lightning.

I also broke my T8 dmg record the first time I played her. Don't get me wrong, she's 100% a port queen right now, but I think that's because I moved on to T9-10, and if I play anything below it's usually because of line resets.

 

Those are the only ones I bothered with, unless we include the Graf Spee (nice ship, uptiers poorly though) which was one of the intermediate rewards.

 

Basically, it depends what else they're gonna come up with.

With over 250 ships in port, for me it would have to be something quirky, with historical interest and not too expensive.

[Dutchy_2019]

23 minutes ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

Because I certainly will not any more. All Dockyard ships are (s)crap.  I'm so much disappointed. The last straw was that Marlborough, beautiful and useless Port Queen.

Why should I pay my money for flawed and underpowered ships? If I'm paying I expect to get something good in return.

 

Wargaming expects me to PAY to get WORSE ship than in standard tech tree? LOL

 

Game over!  

 

 

 

I will grind the next Dockyard, both because I like to collect ships, and for the steel and other resources.

 

Your problem seems to be that:

 

(a) Dockyard ships are NOT broken

(b) Dockyard ships do NOT fit your playstyle, or your skill set (basically you are not good enough).

(c) In some cases better premium alternatives exist (though they might be almost impossible to get).

 

This does NOT automatically mean that the ships are bad. Also, for the price you pay, you get a lot in goods (IIRC for the last Dockyard for the price of a T6 / T7 premium, you got a T2 premiums,  T6 premium, T9 Premium (nominal value 70 euro's), and a lot of other goodies, that - if you were lucky - did net you additional premium ships.  Do not forget that there are also quite a few mêh Premiums, or premiums that only work well under certain conditions (play style, skill set, match up).

 

• Puerto Rico: The ship is decent to good, however that Dockyard was completely broken.
• Odin: Niche ship, that takes quite a bit of skill and some luck in match-up, but then can do really well consistently. However, it must fit your play style
• Anchorage: This one is arguably the weakest of the ships, and I know of very few if any players who do not consider her bad.
• Hizen: Decent, problem is that everybody expected a Musashi. Again, good players do consistently well in her. Must fit your play style.
• ZF-6: Good, but if you are a crap DD player, you will do badly in her. Also depends on play style. I have come across some people who consider her borderline broken.
• De Zeven Provinciën: Decent, but again, high skill floor to get the best out of her. And if your play style is wrong, you WILL do badly in her.
• Repulse: Strong (some consider it borderline broken) if you play her correctly. Play her incorrectly, and you will get deleted quickly.
• Marlborough: Weak.
• Atlantico: Who knows.

 

 

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

I would if it had worthwhile AA that was not a complete joke, unlike all ships in the game right now.

Or any kind of counterplay against CVs, like maybe a couple Exocet missiles.

Or if it got opt-in matchmaking for CV battles.

[Ocsimano18]

I’m watching gameplay videos and check out the stats for pro players. I already learned with the Anchorage to not buy everything. I skipped the Hizen and the ZF-6. I think the ZF-6 was hyped by some streamers while her stats showed a below average ship. I picked up the D7P because the gameplay was fun and the stats are ok. I take her out from time to time. I also skipped the Marlborough. Just don’t pick up everything that is cheap. For the price of two cheap ships you can get a decent one. I have enough doubloons to pick up Brandenburg or any T8 newcommer. I’ll wait for gameplay videos about the Atlantico and decide afterwards whether I want to pick her up, or buy something from the armory with a coupon.

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

8 minutes ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

I will grind the next Dockyard, both because I like to collect ships, and for the steel and other resources.

 

Your problem seems to be that:

 

(a) Dockyard ships are NOT broken

(b) Dockyard ships do NOT fit your playstyle, or your skill set (basically you are not good enough).

(c) In some cases better premium alternatives exist (though they might be almost impossible to get).

 

This does NOT automatically mean that the ships are bad. Also, for the price you pay, you get a lot in goods (IIRC for the last Dockyard for the price of a T6 / T7 premium, you got a T2 premiums,  T6 premium, T9 Premium (nominal value 70 euro's), and a lot of other goodies, that - if you were lucky - did net you additional premium ships.  Do not forget that there are also quite a few mêh Premiums, or premiums that only work well under certain conditions (play style, skill set, match up).

 

• Puerto Rico: The ship is decent to good, however that Dockyard was completely broken.
• Odin: Niche ship, that takes quite a bit of skill and some luck in match-up, but then can do really well consistently. However, it must fit your play style
• Anchorage: This one is arguably the weakest of the ships, and I know of very few if any players who do not consider her bad.
• Hizen: Decent, problem is that everybody expected a Musashi. Again, good players do consistently well in her. Must fit your play style.
• ZF-6: Good, but if you are a crap DD player, you will do badly in her. Also depends on play style. I have come across some people who consider her borderline broken.
• De Zeven Provinciën: Decent, but again, high skill floor to get the best out of her. And if your play style is wrong, you WILL do badly in her.
• Repulse: Strong (some consider it borderline broken) if you play her correctly. Play her incorrectly, and you will get deleted quickly.
• Marlborough: Weak.
• Atlantico: Who knows.

 

 

i remember that time i shooted a well angled hizen with my musashi , and delete with multiple citadels i guess :D

 

repulse ? i sold her with dreadnought :D

 

maybe Puerto Ricco is the top , ZF and DE zeven are not bad also .

 

thats it :D

 

 

[invicta2012]

I doubt it. The only one I've really liked was Odin, and the grinds seem to get more and more insane and boring every time. It also doesn't help that WG does Richard moves like hiding desirable ships (Repulse) in the midst of this sort of nonsense. The other problem is that I'm just not sure what they could put on the table which would be fun, next time around. Can't think of anything French or German they could do. RN stuff would be the usual glass cannons. Italian lines are a bit meh, IJN ones probably aren't going to be as good as what we've got, we've had the USN twice, so odds are it's some Soviet piffle and to hell with that, frankly.

[NewHorizons_1]

45 minutes ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

All Dockyard ships are (s)crap.

Only dockyard ship I completed was Anchorage, which was quite cheap IIRC.

This time around, I waited for reviews and discussions on this very forum about the current dockyard ship and it quickly became apparent, for me at least, that the highlight of the whole event was HMS Repulse.

As I'm a PvE player that'll do me fine, Repulse is quite nice and her mobility and accuracy for scenarios is quite refreshing.

[Marblehead_1]

Depends from quality of rewards for later phases ( phases for dubloons ) Anyway beyond ZF-6 and to some extent De Zeven Provincien ( Naval Battle with double stars for ribbons ) and Puerto Rico ( CB use) all my other Dockyard ships are port queens which to be honest I rarely play and mainly for Snowflakes/Certificates. Considering how often I use them I could easily skip most of Dockyard ships.

 

Also what about non-BBaby Dickyard? 

 

Tachibana, Yahagi, Graf Spee, Dreadnought and Repulse were just phase rewards like Signals, Containers, Coal or Steel so I do not count them in such list.

[General_Alexus]

You need a max of 4500 gold for thouse ships, that is semi achievable with ranked and a few supercontainers. You dont need to spend any money on thouse ships. And the 7D was nice, I dont play BBs so I didnt purchase it this time.

[Dutchy_2019]

21 minutes ago, BlueMerry said:

i remember that time i shooted a well angled hizen with my musashi , and delete with multiple citadels i guess :D

 

repulse ? i sold her with dreadnought :D

 

maybe Puerto Ricco is the top , ZF and DE zeven are not bad also .

 

thats it :D

 

 

 

Musashi can do that with just about any ship.

[Miragetank90]

1 hour ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

All Dockyard ships are (s)crap. 

 

No. They're not. 

As for Atlantico, I'll be getting it as it interests me and 8 is an enjoyable tier. 

[invicta2012]

1 minute ago, Miragetank90 said:

As for Atlantico, I'll be getting it as it interests me and 8 is an enjoyable tier. 

It is a quirky beast. But super-secondary BBs? It's interesting but we probably don't need too many of them floating about. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

23 minutes ago, Miragetank90 said:

 

No. They're not. 

As for Atlantico, I'll be getting it as it interests me and 8 is an enjoyable tier. 

 

And let's not forget the Original Dockyard Ship, the Puerto Rico, the ship that was entirely possible to get for free.

[Puffin_]

No I do not care about Dockyard ships any more. Anchorage was to much trash. Have not bothered since.

I only play now to have fun. Grinding is not fun for me.

The reward must be good like OHIO for instance.

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

6 minutes ago, Puffin_ said:

No I do not care about Dockyard ships any more. Anchorage was to much trash. Have not bothered since.

I only play now to have fun. Grinding is not fun for me.

The reward must be good like OHIO for instance.

 

 

Still, you get to pick up a lot of nice stuff even if you don't plan to get/pay for the dockyard ship itself. In this sense, I will always welcome the related missions.

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

No more Dcockyard event for me.

[Wulf_Ace]

1 hour ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

 

• Anchorage: This one is arguably the weakest of the ships, and I know of very few if any players who do not consider her bad.
•  

 

 

She is not weak, great torps, smoke, ultra great guns. And its fun to play. I like it every way and I am player who doesn't like cruisers. From all dockyard ships I would pick her to have if I had to choose.

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

3 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

She is not weak, great torps, smoke, ultra great guns. And its fun to play. I like it every way and I am player who doesn't like cruisers. From all dockyard ships I would pick her to have if I had to choose.

You feel how chore is the reload when mm puts you in tier 10. 

 

You're finna be facing Des Moines with that ship. Not a fun experience.

[Dutchy_2019]

5 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

She is not weak, great torps, smoke, ultra great guns. And its fun to play. I like it every way and I am player who doesn't like cruisers. From all dockyard ships I would pick her to have if I had to choose.

 

You are one of the very few - common opinion seems to be that she is the weakest / worst of the bunch.

 

That said, if you like her, absolutely nothing wrong with that (all the more power to you), Makes OP's argument look even more silly. Also shows how much personal opinion, play style and skill set play a part in the opinion about ships. I generally like cruisers, and somehow have an affection for the German mid-tier glass canons (ships many people dislike).

[Brinckie]

Haven't really bought any Dockyard ship with real money.

You can grind free dubs with all the game provides,  have t10 to get Snowflakes/Certificates, super containers when you play daily and if your lucky even with dubs(1k/2.5k even) Ranked bronze league till R1, daily logins and armory freebees/dubs..

 

So i did manage to get the:

 

-Anchorage, fun CA although painfull turret traverse and reload, port queen nowadays..

-Odin, nice ship and fun to play but lack stamina and the accuraccy is horrble like most german BB, port queen nowadays.

-ZF-6, Nice and fun DD, can be a tad broken if you have the DD and captain skills to make her work, port queen nowadays, Elbing is way more fun 

-De Zeven Provincien, fun ship if you dont meet t9 and t10, otherwise hard work to make the range and strikes pay up, getting this was a no brainer really since i am Dutch. Port queen nowadays.

-Havent bothered with any BB, there generallly MeH and since i rather play cruisers and DD, no real need for them.

 

Before i buy any Dockyard ship or are tempted to even do so i do research to see if it fits my playstyle and look up YT vids and streamers displaying it like, Flambass, Gibbins, Flamu, Notser and Trenlass maybe even Statsbloke.

 

Could have gotten any besides the PR, that was just to much for me, the way WG performed and how they set it up etc.

 

Good thing still about dockyard, even if you dont spend any money or free dubs(me) and never real money(never!) is you get loads of stuff just to play ships.

Which is really nice since i would be otherwise aswell.

 

top tip:

If you don't pay real money you also won't be disapointed if WG down the line nerfs or power creeps a ship you actually bought.. simple math imho.

 

 

And with the lineup that i currently have i don't really need more ships