Auction results

[Nagine]

So, what was the winning bid for Gremmy and Coal? At least coal went way more than the minimum (33 mln didn't work).

[D7v]

I got Gremmy for 16k I really wanted it although I know it is very expensive. I heard even minimum bids 10k won. So I feel kind of both good and bad. :)

[SnipingCat]

As far as i know, the lowest ive heard in regards to the coal. It would be 115 Million.
Some of my clan mates bid 100Mil, and didnt win, while those with 140m and 150m did.
No clue about gremmy though.

[Klopirat]

Vor 2 Minuten, Nagine sagte:

what was the winning bid for Gremmy

according to Reddit 10k were enough

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/ssa4sh/cheapest_gremy_auction_bid_win/

[Panocek]

Just now, D7v said:

I got Gremmy for 16k I really wanted it although I know it is very expensive. I heard even minimum bids 10k won. So I feel kind of both good and bad. :)

And here I thought Alaska B for 16k was on oof side 

[Nagine]

2 minutes ago, D7v said:

I got Gremmy for 16k I really wanted it although I know it is very expensive. I heard even minimum bids won. So I feel kind of both good and bad. :)

Congrats. Those additional 6000 are the price for insurance to get the desired ship early.

 

But the going prices for coal... ouch.

[HMS_Kilinowski]

My bid of 105M for the 100k coal was unsuccessful. So the lowest winning bid must have been between 105M and 115M.

 

I also found 15M for the 14-pointer a reasonable bid, which was unsuccessful.

[D7v]

7 minutes ago, Panocek said:

And here I thought Alaska B for 16k was on oof side 

I only play Soviet ships. Not buying this ship during CBT was my biggest regret. Initially I had bid 10k assuming that people are not interested in it. I was right but then to be on the safe side I increased it at the last moment when there were only 5 minutes left. I did not have anything else to do with doubloons although I don't have most of the premiums. This ship has more value for myself than a lot of T9 and T10 ships.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

22 minutes ago, Nagine said:

Congrats. Those additional 6000 are the price for insurance to get the desired ship early.

To get what early? When?  He paid the equivalent of 53 euros for a old powercreeped premium which had it's high days in the stealth firing era, overpaying about 20 euros on a tier V 30 euro pricetag that was already over the top for a digital item that carries an artificial fake 'rare' tag that he can't resell and will vanish the moment he decides to stop playing or whenever the game dies. And he could have bought Chernobylite Deluxe Edition for example, also very Russian, a complete game with excellent ratings. I fail to see anything good here. ^^

 

Congrats though :D

[RazorBlade72]

Keep in mind then that Gremmy is still pretty rare. If people with a 10k bid won then that means that everybody won who placed a bit and most likely not all the available ships were sold. 

[Klopirat]

Gerade eben, RazorBlade72 sagte:

If people with a 10k bid won then that means that everybody won who placed a bit

no, it can be that there were more bids with 10k than ships left (so after all higher bids got a ship)...

[HMS_Kilinowski]

1 minute ago, RazorBlade72 said:

Keep in mind then that Gremmy is still pretty rare. If people with a 10k bid won then that means that everybody won who placed a bit and most likely not all the available ships were sold. 

 

... cause according to economic theory, the minimum price was too high. Says a lot about the differences in perception of the value of WG-products between WG and their customers.

[RazorBlade72]

1 minute ago, Klopirat said:

no, it can be that there were more bids with 10k than ships left (so after all higher bids got a ship)...

You are correct. Although I would personally never place a bid of 10k if the minimum was 10k. Then I would place a bid of 10,001. Then you are at least first before all the people who placed a bit of 10k.

[Dracoraptor]

I bid 110mil and lost.

[D7v]

8 minutes ago, Europizza said:

To get what early? When?  He paid the equivalent of 53 euros for a old powercreeped premium which had it's high days in the stealth firing era, overpaying about 20 euros on a tier 5 30 euro pricetag that was already over the top for a digital item that he can't resell and will vanish the moment he decides to stop playing or whenever the game dies. I fail to see anything good here. ^^

Bro these are valid arguments. All the doubloons I spent were free (super containers or events). I don't pay anything for the game at all because I can't. My income is very low. I play the game occasionally and when I do I play with the ships I enjoy. I am not a collector either. Sometimes the value is decided on personal preference. I always wanted this ship and I feel fine having it. For my personal preference it is worth more than for example a Shikishima or a Thunderer to me.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

42 minutes ago, D7v said:

Bro these are valid arguments. All the doubloons I spent were free (super containers or events). I don't pay anything for the game at all because I can't. My income is very low. I play the game occasionally and when I do I play with the ships I enjoy. I am not a collector either. Sometimes the value is decided on personal preference. I always wanted this ship and I feel fine having it. For my personal preference it is worth more than for example a Shikishima or a Thunderer to me.

Value in emotionally driven markets is almost always personal ^^

Enjoy the new toy 

 

[RazorBlade72]

21 minutes ago, Europizza said:

To get what early? When?  He paid the equivalent of 53 euros for a old powercreeped premium which had it's high days in the stealth firing era, overpaying about 20 euros on a tier V 30 euro pricetag that was already over the top for a digital item that carries a fake 'rare' tag that he can't resell and will vanish the moment he decides to stop playing or whenever the game dies. And he could have bought Chernobylite Deluxe Edition for example, also very Russian, a complete game with excellent ratings. I fail to see anything good here. ^^

 

Congrats though :D

Is that not true for a lot of things? If I buy a ticket for an amusement parc then there is also no way I can resell it. I have fun while it lasts. In the end that is al you can do in life, have a bit of fun. 

[D7v]

4 minutes ago, RazorBlade72 said:

Is that not true for a lot of things? If I buy a ticket for an amusement parc then there is also no way I can resell it. I have fun while it lasts. In the end that is al you can do in life, have a bit of fun. 

Yes this is why I bought this ship. Even if I play it 10 times I feel satisfied lol. My first bid was 10k so I only regret changing and adding 6k in last minute panic buy :D

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Vor 31 Minuten, RazorBlade72 sagte:

Keep in mind then that Gremmy is still pretty rare. If people with a 10k bid won then that means that everybody won who placed a bit and most likely not all the available ships were sold. 

That would mean WG made people pay their full bid even though a smaller sum would have been "enough" to outbid lower bids.

A strange concept of "auction".

Is that what's called a Russian Auction?

[RazorBlade72]

1 minute ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said:

That would mean WG made people pay their full bid even though a smaller sum would have been "enough" to outbid lower bids.

A strange concept of "auction".

I guess that is the idea of an auction. 

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Gerade eben, RazorBlade72 sagte:

I guess that is the idea of an auction. 

Yeah not according to ebay it isn't.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

21 hours ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said:

That would mean WG made people pay their full bid even though a smaller sum would have been "enough" to outbid lower bids.

A strange concept of "auction".

Is that what's called a Russian Auction?

WG would unironically get more money it functioned more like an actual auction (Ebay) where you can see what the lowest winning bid is at that moment. Because people would be much more competitive in it. The Gremy bid would definitely not be winning below 11k in that case.

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[Aragathor]

14 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said:

That would mean WG made people pay their full bid even though a smaller sum would have been "enough" to outbid lower bids.

A strange concept of "auction".

Is that what's called a Russian Auction?

No, that's a sealed bid auction with a reserve price. It's common for items with a market price the seller doesn't want to disclose publicly.

And WG has applied the typical rules for the auction fairly and correctly.

 

10 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said:

Yeah not according to ebay it isn't.

eBay is an auction house based on English auction types, quite different from types like Dutch auctions, Vickrey auctions, and Sealed Bid auctions.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

41 minutes ago, RazorBlade72 said:

Is that not true for a lot of things? If I buy a ticket for an amusement parc then there is also no way I can resell it. I have fun while it lasts. In the end that is al you can do in life, have a bit of fun. 

He bought it for play to pay earned gold coins, so no loss there. You can resell tickets by the way.

 

Sure, it's true for many things in todays irrational markets. We buy digital amusement in a carefully manipulated market of artificially created scarecity. It's rather anti consumer, all of it, and gobbeling it up making excuses for poor decisions is what riled up hormones do best. These forums are full of those ^^

 

 

[arttuperkunas]

I got 100k coal for 125 111 111 credits. I'm satisfied.