Am I the only one who does this?

[Jomanda]

First of all I suck at this game. So there is no point to tell me to "git gud or gtfo". I have a legitimate question and I just want to know if there are other players that do the same as I do.

 

When I am in a battle and I am outclassed by 2 tiers, so in a tier 5 ship, when I load into a tier 7 battle, I just quit the battle and play another ship. Alternatively (if I am already pink) I just give full ahead, alt-tab away and watch youtube for a few minutes before coming back to my wreck and starting a new battle.

 

I am having enough difficulty dealing with my own tier, let alone one or even two tiers higher than myself. I do not enjoy those battles at all, and since the only reason I play this game is for fun, I chose to not play them at all. I know I am supposedly "hurting" my team doing this, but let's be honest, when you're outclassed by 2 tiers you're not missing much if a lower tier ship is inactive. Especially with someone as bad as me at this game...

It means that I often am pink and sometimes have to play some co-op battles, but they are over so quickly that it is a slight inconvenience compared to the agony of going through the game in which (in my opinion) the matchmaker made a mistake.

 

I would happily wait several minutes longer to get into a well balanced game than be forced into those mismatched battles and I wish there was an option to tell the matchmaker that as well.

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Being uptiered is the least of the worries these days, compared to the aircraft carrier pestilence.

Although I will say that the captain skill cash grab has made being uptiered a lot worse for many ships, especially those that aren't Russian.

That is why you should use Brawl as long as it is available - same tier, no CVs, no subs, and captain leveling matters a lot less.

Spoiler

In no way am I trying to bait more noobs and potatoes into brawl for me to sealclub and farm for XP.

 

[Chaos_Umbra]

17 minutes ago, Jomanda said:

First of all I suck at this game. So there is no point to tell me to "git gud or gtfo". I have a legitimate question and I just want to know if there are other players that do the same as I do.

 

When I am in a battle and I am outclassed by 2 tiers, so in a tier 5 ship, when I load into a tier 7 battle, I just quit the battle and play another ship. Alternatively (if I am already pink) I just give full ahead, alt-tab away and watch youtube for a few minutes before coming back to my wreck and starting a new battle.

 

I am having enough difficulty dealing with my own tier, let alone one or even two tiers higher than myself. I do not enjoy those battles at all, and since the only reason I play this game is for fun, I chose to not play them at all. I know I am supposedly "hurting" my team doing this, but let's be honest, when you're outclassed by 2 tiers you're not missing much if a lower tier ship is inactive. Especially with someone as bad as me at this game...

It means that I often am pink and sometimes have to play some co-op battles, but they are over so quickly that it is a slight inconvenience compared to the agony of going through the game in which (in my opinion) the matchmaker made a mistake.

 

I would happily wait several minutes longer to get into a well balanced game than be forced into those mismatched battles and I wish there was an option to tell the matchmaker that as well.

It is incredibly unfair to the rest of your team to just quit because your bottom tier, unless you seem to perform worse than being AFK all game, seen loads of games where bottom tier ships have been able to swing the match in their teams favour, some times it can be as simple as surviving making the team win by points even if they have lost more ships than the enemy as long as you had a points lead and map control for most of the game. The kind of behaviour you're committing is the sort that will get to barred from Random battles and stuck only being able to play CoOp.

[Fatal_Ramses]

Please don't quit the match just because you are 2 tiers lower. There is so much you can do for your team.

I know it gets old to "always be bottom tier", but the rewards are so much better!

This my game last night, I was in a VII DD in a IX match. All I did was hang on B-cap and kept spotting the enemy ships and eventually finished off 2 of their DDs.

With only one assisted capture and 14k dmg I was 2nd on the winning team.

You have to play more carefully, but the rewards are better. That's why IX is the best tier to play cause they get better rewards vs X ships.

 

*edit

If you are not happy with tier 5 ships going against tier 7 ships then I have to tell you that it wont be any better once you advance to tier 6, 7 or 8.

[Miragetank90]

So you would rather AFK in PvP, go pink - and so be forced to play COOP games and wasting your time there, rather than just play one random game with the cards you were dealt? 

Am I correct to infer that you don't like some element of challenge or variety in your games?

 

That's fine. In that case, and seeing as how you don't mind - save yourself and others the trouble and stick to COOP. 

[triumphgt6]

Regularly up tiered - just play - you get more XP - besides higher tier ships will detest it if you at the top of the leader board. This is not World of Tanks - you can still hurt higher tiers. Simply going AFK will result in a ban if you are not careful

[_Lupastro_]

I don't know if u were a WoT player. In WoT 2 tiers difference, armor values, guns calibers etc make a big, big difference and literally u can do nothing. WoWs Is very different. Even 2 tiers lower u can do a lot of things: spot, start fires, torp someone or just tank some enemy shots. Tier difference was never an issues for me...

I understand that you play for fun but imagine you go to play a football match with your friends for fun, and suddenly your goalkeeper left the pitch or deliberately let the opponent team score a goal... Well not fun at all...

 

It's bad to say but you're just the kind of player I would never want in my team and to be honest if you continue like this I also hope for much harsher penalties than a couple of games in coop or being pink.

 

 

 

 

[MrWastee]

how about learning the game on lower tiers then b4 levelling up? as well as: moar xp! that simple....

[ColonelPete]

39 minutes ago, Jomanda said:

First of all I suck at this game. So there is no point to tell me to "git gud or gtfo". I have a legitimate question and I just want to know if there are other players that do the same as I do.

 

When I am in a battle and I am outclassed by 2 tiers, so in a tier 5 ship, when I load into a tier 7 battle, I just quit the battle and play another ship. Alternatively (if I am already pink) I just give full ahead, alt-tab away and watch youtube for a few minutes before coming back to my wreck and starting a new battle.

 

I am having enough difficulty dealing with my own tier, let alone one or even two tiers higher than myself. I do not enjoy those battles at all, and since the only reason I play this game is for fun, I chose to not play them at all. I know I am supposedly "hurting" my team doing this, but let's be honest, when you're outclassed by 2 tiers you're not missing much if a lower tier ship is inactive. Especially with someone as bad as me at this game...

It means that I often am pink and sometimes have to play some co-op battles, but they are over so quickly that it is a slight inconvenience compared to the agony of going through the game in which (in my opinion) the matchmaker made a mistake.

 

I would happily wait several minutes longer to get into a well balanced game than be forced into those mismatched battles and I wish there was an option to tell the matchmaker that as well.

1. There is no need for me to do this. I just try to win the match for the team
2. By giving up, you are missing a chance to learn something
3. This toxic behaviour only encourages other players to do something similar. But I am sure you will enjoy it, when you are top Tier and all your low Tier teammates do the same. But it will be a great battle for you, I am sure

[lossi_2018]

Half the pop used to do it, back in the day, probably still does it. If you're having fun this way kudos to you I suppose. People do that in coop, though giving it a shot might surprise you. No one likes it, but while better ships matters, there's a lot of 'casual' captains driving around higher up. Haven't played in a long time, but I fondly remember losing out best ship at the first couple of minutes and they were trying to play! I guess stuff may be better now. 

[Siagor]

1 hour ago, Jomanda said:

First of all I suck at this game.

...

Not a unicum here too.

Mate, if you already enter Random battle, stick with it. If viciously downtiered, stay behind the first line, move a lot, take care, stay alive - and watch carefully for an opportunity to score hits. To finish off just one red, or contribute to killing one.

You'll be rewarded for damaging/killing even one ship that's a tier or two higher than you. It will be good.

[GarrusBrutus]

1 hour ago, Jomanda said:

I just quit the battle and play another ship

I absolutely despise players like you. So when you're toptier you stay in the game and you happily trash on -2 ships who DO try to play the game and feel good about yourself afterwards?

Coward, is the word that comes to mind.

It isnt impossible you know, its challenging. If -2 tiers gameplay is too difficult for you, you need to play some lower tiers to master the basics.

This kind of behaviour is ultra toxic and gamebreaking. I could post plenty of old screenshots where it was possible to meet Yamato's in my Fuso, but what would it accomplish? As if players like you will ever see the challenge in that. They just want spoonfed gratification and feeling succesful without the hassle of working to become succesful.

[General_Alexus]

Lowertier ships have still a good fighting chance, its not like WOT where you cant pen the enemy Tanks armor without goldrounds and as such are just a HP Piniata to be farmed.

Torps hit as hard and be it that they are a bit slower with less range, Guns are able to citadel and be it they have lower DPM, Fires from your HE dont care about enemy HP advantage.

Instead of screwing your team, you can as well ramm an enemy ship and trade equal.

 

Lower tiers in a higher tier match is very stressfree experience, you can experiment with plays/positions and get better for your games where you are high tier without the need to be too concerned if it does not work out, as the team is not relying on you to carry as a top tier. And last but not least: You get a Exp multiplier for damaging higher tier ships. The fastest way to not be low tier anymore is ironicly to be good in your low tier ships in uptiered games.

 

If you realy cant stand beeing lowtier: Play T9/T10 only.

[Bellegar]

1 hour ago, Jomanda said:

First of all I suck at this game. So there is no point to tell me to "git gud or gtfo". I have a legitimate question and I just want to know if there are other players that do the same as I do.

 

When I am in a battle and I am outclassed by 2 tiers, so in a tier 5 ship, when I load into a tier 7 battle, I just quit the battle and play another ship. Alternatively (if I am already pink) I just give full ahead, alt-tab away and watch youtube for a few minutes before coming back to my wreck and starting a new battle.

 

I am having enough difficulty dealing with my own tier, let alone one or even two tiers higher than myself. I do not enjoy those battles at all, and since the only reason I play this game is for fun, I chose to not play them at all. I know I am supposedly "hurting" my team doing this, but let's be honest, when you're outclassed by 2 tiers you're not missing much if a lower tier ship is inactive. Especially with someone as bad as me at this game...

It means that I often am pink and sometimes have to play some co-op battles, but they are over so quickly that it is a slight inconvenience compared to the agony of going through the game in which (in my opinion) the matchmaker made a mistake.

 

I would happily wait several minutes longer to get into a well balanced game than be forced into those mismatched battles and I wish there was an option to tell the matchmaker that as well.

Question: what do you do when you're in a T7 and there are T5s in the match? Do you also quit out of courtesy to them?

Possible follow-up question: if no, how would you feel if T5 teammates started quitting the match condemning you to a loss in your T7?

 

Constructive feedback: try to stay in T4- if you're uncomfortable with a two tier gap. It sucks, but if you play patient you can have some great battles against ships two tiers higher. Besides, you'll earn vastly more xp from damaging higher tier ships. 

 

Non-constructive feedback: just be happy you didn't play in beta test when I was facing Iowas in my New Mexico 

Yes it sucks being bottom tier. But that's offset by being top tier. If you can't handle tier differences, go back to T1 where you belong. 

[Cyclops_]

1 hour ago, Fatal_Ramses said:

Please don't quit the match just because you are 2 tiers lower. There is so much you can do for your team.

I know it gets old to "always be bottom tier", but the rewards are so much better!

This my game last night, I was in a VII DD in a IX match. All I did was hang on B-cap and kept spotting the enemy ships and eventually finished off 2 of their DDs.

With only one assisted capture and 14k dmg I was 2nd on the winning team.

You have to play more carefully, but the rewards are better. That's why IX is the best tier to play cause they get better rewards vs X ships.

 

*edit

If you are not happy with tier 5 ships going against tier 7 ships then I have to tell you that it wont be any better once you advance to tier 6, 7 or 8.

 

 

Totally agree, one of tonight's battles in my DE 7, bottom tier in a TX battle.

 

 

The problem with the OP is he is a BB main, so yellow (PINK) card for you.

 

[SodaBubbles]

I can see both sides. There is absolutely no reason we don't have a one-tier MM choice, except WG laziness and indifference to the desires of the playerbase.

 

Sadly, non-participation is the only form of protest available to this player.

 

It's unfortunate that instead of giving customers choices, WG has decided to make players like the OP into fodderbotes. 

I understand both sides. But players should have a choice about what MM they want to face. 


 

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said:

I can see both sides. There is absolutely no reason we don't have a one-tier MM choice, except WG laziness and indifference to the desires of the playerbase.

 

Sadly, non-participation is the only form of protest available to this player.

 

It's unfortunate that instead of giving customers choices, WG has decided to make players like the OP into fodderbotes. 

I understand both sides. But players should have a choice about what MM they want to face.

• Low Tier ships are not "fodderbotes"
• even with +2/-2 MM we have queue times of nearly a minute, BB wait even longer; with a +1/-1 MM you would wait around 2 minutes, even longer on certain Tiers

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said:

Being uptiered is the least of the worries these days, compared to the aircraft carrier pestilence.

Why not both, MM is perfectly capable of putting say a Fuso in a match with say Enterprise... 

[lameoll]

if u do crap like this

 

2 hours ago, Jomanda said:

"git gud or gtfo"

its simple if u dont want to at least try either go play Coop or play other games 

[SodaBubbles]

7 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

• Low Tier ships are not "fodderbotes"
• even with +2/-2 MM we have queue times of nearly a minute, BB wait even longer; with a +1/-1 MM you would wait around 2 minutes, even longer on certain Tiers

 

Nope, you wouldn't get those wait times. Look at Ranked. Seldom have long queue times at peak. But all ships same tier.

Obvious move would be to trial two tier in off-peak hours and one tier in peak hours. Or put in +1 and +2 Battle buttons. Some players would like +2. 

But WG wants fodderbotes so players move up the tiers more rapidly, they make matching nasty for only that reason. That desire and the restricted T4 MM have brought untold harm to gameplay by shoving players up to high tiers too fast. 
 

[FukushuNL]

I would understand the feeling when you join a match with CVs, but getting uptiered is not that big of a deal. Though I rather have it 1 tier difference tbh.

[Zerberus76]

Unfortunately, no, you are not.  That doesn´t make the act any less despicable, though, "But everybody else does it, too!" has never been a valid excuse for premeditated misbehavior, nor should it ever become one. 

How do you expect to get better if you refuse to play as soon as the game gets challenging?

I absolutely abhor players that have this mindset. They embody the core of everything hat has been wrong with online gaming for decades, and are the root cause of many of the problems, including but in no way limited to the proliferation of 3rd party cheat software or the projection of one´s on ineptitude onto the game or other players, a I won´t even get started on how many ways this mindset incentivizes developers like Wargaming to add Pay to Win options to their games....

Just out of curiosity, f you´re playing soccer in the park, do you stop and pout on the sidelines as soon as you realize that someone on the other team is actually good?   Or do you only play at all when you´re playing against 6th graders that you can just brute force your way through?

If you do not have the moral fortuitude to see past your own ego instead of outright ruining a game for a dozen or more other people who expect you to at least try to pull your own weight, then please, for the sake of everyone around you, do not ever play multiplayer games. Online, or offline.

All you will ever do otherwise is make permanent enemies by repeatedly ruining the game for everyone else.

[tocqueville8]

For a second I thought this was an old thread 

[tocqueville8]

2 hours ago, Jomanda said:

When I am in a battle and I am outclassed by 2 tiers, so in a tier 5 ship, when I load into a tier 7 battle, I just quit the battle and play another ship. Alternatively (if I am already pink) I just give full ahead, alt-tab away and watch youtube for a few minutes before coming back to my wreck and starting a new battle.

 

That must explain a lot of the mor***c behavior we see in the mid tiers 

[ZeuSueZ1337]

Since no one has asked, I'll bite; How do you cope with resistance and/or opposition in real life? o.0

 

- Just press reset when you get handed a difficult assignment in school?

- Enter a new level when your boss hands you a task you don't care for?

- Switches partner when your significant other doesn't agree with you?

 

On topic: that behaviour is like many has pointed out selfish, despicable and utter disgraceful towards your teammates.

 

If the opposition is to stiff for you then - yeah: 

2 hours ago, Jomanda said:

"git gud or gtfo"

.....I hope for the latter.