Raptor rescue, waste of time?

[Japualtah]

Only won it once in 4 attempts, isn't PvE supposed to be relaxed?

There are no rewards whatsoever, no XPs, no Credits, nothing to my knowledge, I feel like wasting my time with people dieing right and left, not understanding the objectives.

What's the point doing this if you can get more bang for your buck from co-op?

I must have missed something, for sure.

 

[Yedwy]

Yep most ops are nowadays unless its a full clan div...

[invicta2012]

Why not take your favourite ship and try and carry?

 

I love playing the CV in Raptor because you are so very influential with your spotting, but you can take a good DD, gun cruiser or perhaps Graf Spee or a fast BB like one of them newfangled German ones and front up.Poor teams often rally if someone is leading the way. And if it fails, at least you can say it wasn't down to you. 

[Japualtah]

Only have Warspite and Monoghan, last battle killed 3 cruisers and a BB with it, with A hull

Carry a game with a DD, not without superpowers and it would be pointless anyway, which is more frustrating than losing TBH.

[Yedwy]

If you are really adamant about carrying T6 ops I suggest you get yourself Mysore or Leander

[Bigruss42]

31 minutes ago, Japualtah said:

Only won it once in 4 attempts, isn't PvE supposed to be relaxed?

There are no rewards whatsoever, no XPs, no Credits, nothing to my knowledge, I feel like wasting my time with people dieing right and left, not understanding the objectives.

What's the point doing this if you can get more bang for your buck from co-op?

I must have missed something, for sure.

 

Click on the stars when the battle ends if you've managed to get them and they tell you what the rewards are ;)

The fourth star is a 10 point captain.

The others are for signals and camo's and the fifth is for some premium ;)

For raptor the captain is American the other scenarios give other nations captains

[triumphgt6]

7 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

If you are really adamant about carrying T6 ops I suggest you get yourself Mysore or Leander

I am underwhelmed by Mysore - no torps and the reload time is painful and damage seems far less than the Fiji on which she is based. Leander seems much better despite the one less gun and has a heal.

[Camperdown]

Raptor Rescue is not a difficult win, but teams these days can muck anything up.

[Yedwy]

35 minutes ago, triumphgt6 said:

I am underwhelmed by Mysore - no torps and the reload time is painful and damage seems far less than the Fiji on which she is based. Leander seems much better despite the one less gun and has a heal.

Mysore also has a heal that is exactly my point, you need a cruiser that has smoke and heal so you can recover after pushing, some faster BBs with sec builds like PEF/Mackensen or Dunq can be useful as well

[Tordenskjold23]

Raptor Resque is not for DDs. Best way to lose is a team with 2 DDs.

Too little firepover to kill the swam  of IJN cruisers-

Often dead in 5 minutes

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 2 Stunden, Japualtah sagte:

Only won it once in 4 attempts, isn't PvE supposed to be relaxed?

There are no rewards whatsoever, no XPs, no Credits, nothing to my knowledge, I feel like wasting my time with people dieing right and left, not understanding the objectives.

What's the point doing this if you can get more bang for your buck from co-op?

I must have missed something, for sure.

 

For some players ops are too easy, for others too hard.

[invicta2012]

14 minutes ago, Tordenskjold23 said:

Raptor Resque is not for DDs. Best way to lose is a team with 2 DDs.

Too little firepover to kill the swam  of IJN cruisers-

Often dead in 5 minutes

Aigle works well I think. Anshan will also do nicely, as can Fushun. A USN DD can be strong and has those excellent smokescreens for other players / Raptor to hide in. If you bring anything smaller your job is to stay alive to the end phase, intercept those IJN BBs and fill them full of torps.

 

But if cruisers are a problem, bring a Weser or Loewenhardt. Those German BB rocket planes make an awful mess of low tier Cruisers, and if all else fails you can always secondary YOLO them.

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Yep most ops are nowadays unless its a full clan div...

Hell no, it is much better in "pants down carry mode", you take a clan division but only 4 or 5, and no randoms... 
Then try to get 5 stars... and then try to do it in "idiot ships". 

 

2 hours ago, Japualtah said:

Only have Warspite and Monoghan, last battle killed 3 cruisers and a BB with it, with A hull

Warspite is quite nice, I usually take Queen Elizabeth because better range. 

Best here though - get Ise.If you're a bit savvy with CVs then that thing just kicks @$$.

It will wreck stuff like any BB and you can also get the ones that would otherwise have escaped.

 

2 hours ago, Japualtah said:

Carry a game with a DD, not without superpowers and it would be pointless anyway, which is more frustrating than losing TBH.

Narai is one where a good DD player can do a LOT. 

That Harbour defense, too. And the one where you actually have to wreck a port.

But on all ops, get some divvies that know what they are doing. 

[Andrewbassg]

2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

If you are really adamant about carrying T6 ops I suggest you get yourself Mysore or Leander

Or Nurnie. And Degrasse is no slouch either

 

I mean...

 

 

 

Tho, it is my fav operation, soo..... I made 500K FXP in a week in it :)

[Johnny_Moneto]

Just checked. Seems to be reasonably doable, also without smoke.

 

[All_up_in_ur_grille]

On Raptor, due to dynamic enemy spawns and exit points, for optimal results you need at least 1 of 2 qualities in your ship choice, speed and/or gun range, imo. As an example, after you've killed the first three targets you want to have gun range to fire your guns to the north to see if you get detected by the 3x cruisers that can spawn there, if not, you want to be able to motor south to get them broadside as they pull out from behind the islands

 

Best picks for me are:

 

BB; Fuso, Mutsu, Repulse & Normandie

Cruisers: Budyonny & Nurnberg

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 3 Minuten, All_up_in_ur_grille sagte:

On Raptor, due to dynamic enemy spawns and exit points, for optimal results you need at least 1 of 2 qualities in your ship choice, speed and/or gun range, imo. As an example, after you've killed the first three targets you want to have gun range to fire your guns to the north to see if you get detected by the 3x cruisers that can spawn there, if not, you want to be able to motor south to get them broadside as they pull out from behind the islands

 

You can be very mean and use RPF :-) It actually helps a lot on this scenario for the reasons you mention above. In this case you also don't need the CV for spotting and have additional gun power.

[Andrewbassg]

19 minutes ago, Johnny_Moneto said:

You can be very mean and use RPF :-)

 And I am..  Both.:)

 

 

 

[triumphgt6]

To be fair, the ops on the whole are pretty easy - we did Narai with 5* with only four of us last week and no-one died. The tricky one is Defence of Newport - we finally got 5* a couple of weeks ago following the reset of the stars that happened some time ago - Raptor Rescue seems pretty easy with friends - and even torped  the white ship at the end a few times! I do wish they would bring back the others - Dunkirk was great fun,.

[Hugh_Ruka]

10 hours ago, Tordenskjold23 said:

Raptor Resque is not for DDs. Best way to lose is a team with 2 DDs.

Too little firepover to kill the swam  of IJN cruisers-

Often dead in 5 minutes

then you are doing something wring, Farragut is a beast in this Operation ...

[Nov_A]

It is the same song as always, operations are only as hard, as your team is bad. Clicking in with a random team is a 50/50 chance of being doomed from the start, because people get outplayed by bots, do not understand the objective or just generally play in absolute disregard for anyone else.

You can have successful runs from time to time, which is often enough if you have 2-3 botes that you want to play for their daily reward. There is an operations channel ingame to find people playing in coordinated groups, but they often focus on Narai, since it has the highest XP yield.

[Yedwy]

10 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Hell no, it is much better in "pants down carry mode", you take a clan division but only 4 or 5, and no randoms... 
Then try to get 5 stars... and then try to do it in "idiot ships". 

Full clan division means ALL members of it are from the same clan and play together towards the same goal in a coordinated manner, ofc the less people you can take the better for earnings, however "being worthwhile" for ops means farming them and farming them you can only do reliably if you WIN reliably and with random teams you just dont...

[invicta2012]

20 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

however "being worthwhile" for ops means farming them and farming them you can only do reliably if you WIN reliably and with random teams you just dont...

Well, sort of. I like playing Ops - and especially Raptor, Killer Whale and Newport - because they often provide exciting close finishes. And that's often *because* of random teams and the fact that at least one or more team members is generally not up to speed. Farming content is OK if you're after resources, but the random route is more emotional (be that happiness or frustration). 

[arquata2019_]

12 ore fa, invicta2012 ha scritto:

Why not take your favourite ship and try and carry?

 

I love playing the CV in Raptor because you are so very influential with your spotting, but you can take a good DD, gun cruiser or perhaps Graf Spee or a fast BB like one of them newfangled German ones and front up.Poor teams often rally if someone is leading the way. And if it fails, at least you can say it wasn't down to you. 

This.
Recently, I have heard people constantly losing in operations, and we pretty much have an idea of why that happens. I didn't play Ops at all recently, and I guess that you'd have to play either a very strong ship you are very good into, or play with other people in division.

Yeah, CV in that gamemode are just capable to carry the entire team :)

[Tordenskjold23]

On 2/12/2022 at 10:16 AM, Hugh_Ruka said:

then you are doing something wring, Farragut is a beast in this Operation ...

On 2/12/2022 at 10:16 AM, Hugh_Ruka said:

Take a look on this - Don't think you are close to this . As I see it 3566 Sea Stars 

I think I know a thing or two about Operations