[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #1 Posted February 8, 2022 After playing this mode (much more on NA) my conclusions are, that WG is again outdone itself in making a potentially good and fun game mode about his own greed and a complete lack of understanding of his own game. The problems are ranging from format, (2 vs 2) maps (and also layout ) and obviously MM. I think the biggest problem is the format. Being a 2v2 bringing anything that have speed boost confer an undeniable and quite crucial advantage. Capping early puts that team at an advantage , forcing the other team to act. Having a ship on a team with speedboost.....yeah of course helps there. And the maps also heavily favor dd's. Being a 2 vs 2 also puts the problem of attrition. One ship lost usually means that the match is lost. I've seen turnarounds but... rarely. However reduces the time of battles considerably. Now.... that could be argued that is not a bad thing in itself, tho... they just removed a battle mode citing player experience as reason. Yeeeah.... On NA I played 99%of the time, the Weimar. And....it is a blast :), Out of like 30 matches I lost 5. In stark contrast to what I experienced on EU. So, overall I would give WG a C with.... indulgence. I'm not saying that fun couldn't be had, sometimes . But overall they did a piss poor job and I seriously doubt that much thinking gone into this mode. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] PeteEarthling [STEEL] Players 1,037 posts Report post #2 Posted February 8, 2022 You are omitting the biggest problem: If you aren't playing in a division, you will often get teamed up with the most clueless noob, which means not only are you playing 1 vs. 2, but the enemy team usually gets a huge points headstart after the first or second salvo fired. I went through this potato hell solo, and it was much more excruciating then the 3 vs. 3 format. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #3 Posted February 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, PeteEarthling said: You are omitting the biggest problem: If you aren't playing in a division, you will often get teamed up with the most clueless noob, which means not only are you playing 1 vs. 2, but the enemy team usually gets a huge points headstart after the first or second salvo fired. I went through this potato hell solo, and it was much more excruciating then the 3 vs. 3 format. And you are not wrong, however I still think that the format is the biggest problem. I mean it is a LOT easier to div up in 2 than in three. Btw I encountered a meme div on NA. 2 Z-52\s(!!) from the same clan :) They torped the crap out of the mate's Shiny Horse but he was smart enough to disengage ( i.e run !! and live) and my Weimar did the rest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABUS] Chaoskraehe Freibeuter, WoWs Wiki Team 1,291 posts 10,716 battles Report post #4 Posted February 8, 2022 Brawls is by far my favorite mode (especially 1vs1). I wish this would be a permanent mode 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #5 Posted February 8, 2022 How do you 'brawl' with only 4 ships in the battle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #6 Posted February 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: How do you 'brawl' with only 4 ships in the battle? Easy you just shoot @Karasu_Hidesuke 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #7 Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, Cammo1962 said: Easy you just shoot @Karasu_Hidesuke Shoot at me! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLING] Cammo1962 [BLING] Players 2,468 posts 25,257 battles Report post #8 Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Shoot at me! Yup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #9 Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Cammo1962 said: Yup ................ This is brawling. Very graphic, so be warned. There's a reason why WG operates ghost ships. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[O-V] johncl Players 390 posts 16,105 battles Report post #10 Posted February 8, 2022 LOL its just a sales drive nothing more .....What you do is create a new game mode ..Then sell the ship that will be very competitive in said mode ..............Agincourt anyone if you don't see how WeeGee work then you are likely the way of the dodo Back to the point ...Brawls are crap if your not a try hard with a try hard platoon mate ..for casual joe like me there is no fun to be had here ............line up in your T5 ship and get teamed up with 150 battle Bob in his Omaha ..and in the red corner it's that Shaft platoon of me Julie and his KamakaziR bum chum ....And let the fun begin ( for them) ....... Could of been a good mode but this is WOWShits 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] PeteEarthling [STEEL] Players 1,037 posts Report post #11 Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, johncl said: line up in your T5 ship and get teamed up with 150 battle Bob in his Omaha It is not possible to play T5 ships in T7 brawls. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #12 Posted February 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: How do you 'brawl' with only 4 ships in the battle? Good question. Since Wedgie in their infinite wisdom ( or somethin else) with the cap ref.... shafted cruisers like no tomorrow...... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #13 Posted February 8, 2022 Yeah bushwacker , I know.... I love you too :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-B-M] Takethatyoubeast Players 705 posts 12,912 battles Report post #14 Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, PeteEarthling said: You are omitting the biggest problem: If you aren't playing in a division, you will often get teamed up with the most clueless noob, which means not only are you playing 1 vs. 2, but the enemy team usually gets a huge points headstart after the first or second salvo fired. I went through this potato hell solo, and it was much more excruciating then the 3 vs. 3 format. I had a total potato in the Tier 7 Dutch cruiser who parked behind an island nowhere near the cap and did nothing so we lost I think the 2 vs 2 format shows how bad far too many players are - literally clueless play witnessed in the new brawls (Win or lose) with no support being given and map positioning based, presumably, by rolling their face on the keyboard 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #15 Posted February 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said: Yeah bushwacker , I know.... I love you too :) Sorry, you're not my type...too negative about everything 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #16 Posted February 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Takethatyoubeast said: I think the 2 vs 2 format shows how bad far too many players are - literally clueless play witnessed in the new brawls (Win or lose) with no support being given and map positioning based, presumably, by rolling their face on the keyboard I can't disagree with the point tho in all fairness have to be said that at T7 many players are not yet cooked enough and they could be pitted against players with 21 pointer caps ( yeah ....) so..... that is a factor too . Pertinent to what I've said earlier Weimar is not an autowin, but..... is a significant advantage. In this reduced format any choices and decisions made get magnified and are exploitable. Especially ship choices. Colorado for example is a very bad ship to bring it into this mode. Here is the replay too, for anyone interested. 20220208_201043_PBSC107-Fiji_45_Zigzag.wowsreplay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-B-M] Takethatyoubeast Players 705 posts 12,912 battles Report post #17 Posted February 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said: Colorado for example is a very bad ship to bring it into this mode. People are playing Colorado in 2 vs 2 brawl ? In any other game that would seem weird but you know WOWS 🤣 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #18 Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Takethatyoubeast said: People are playing Colorado in 2 vs 2 brawl ? In any other game that would seem weird but you know WOWS 🤣 Yeah ....I asked one of them ( yes I saw more than one ) and the given motivation was grind related 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #19 Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Chaoskraehe said: Brawls is by far my favorite mode (especially 1vs1). I wish this would be a permanent mode And I like it too. 1v1 is a clear cut story ( tho Cv's...) 3v3 it resembles a battle. .But 2v2 ....too many problems. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #20 Posted February 8, 2022 Too make it clear I'm not saying that comebacka are not possible and fun cant be had. im saying that they could have done better In this case the reds chose the tactic of the BB going into the cap and the Belfast going a sort of flanking, smoking up and radaring the cap. i anticipated this and I didn't go near the double cap. :) Then with some luck.. :) 20220208_214732_PBSC107-Fiji_51_Greece.wowsreplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #21 Posted February 8, 2022 It's a really fun mode. Wish it were available on a regular basis. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BASIC] koliber_1984 Players 1,113 posts 27,807 battles Report post #22 Posted February 8, 2022 This is again quite frustrating expereince for me. Usual my teammates die 1st or hide behind a rock and die second. Ranked feels much better compared to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[STEEL] PeteEarthling [STEEL] Players 1,037 posts Report post #23 Posted February 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Takethatyoubeast said: I had a total potato in the Tier 7 Dutch cruiser who parked behind an island nowhere near the cap and did nothing so we lost Hahaha I guess we had the very same Tier 7 Dutch cruiser in our team, because exactly the same happened to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,598 battles Report post #24 Posted February 9, 2022 Hi all, I used "Scharnhorst" - it is still a beast and a force to be reckoned with! All battles solo (i.e. no DIV): 41 Victories 29 Defeats Leo "Apollo11" P.S. I got 20+ Karma in the process... I must have been doing something right then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WSW] ColorsOfRainbows Players 665 posts 7,534 battles Report post #25 Posted February 9, 2022 2vs2 is amazing boy Also you must realise that 25-5 ain't a working winrate for everyone. 15-15 would be good for everyone if you get more someone else has to lose alot and If that was you on eu i can't see the problem other then maybe eu is better then na and u don't have the needed skill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
