Is V. Veneto playable?

[anonym_ntfKigmJ0k9e]

Currently playing F. Caracciolo, it's worst tier 7 ship in the game. Very short range, small HP, no torps, no hydro, no spotting plane, no anything, just abysmal dispersion. This ship is a joke. When I compare this ship to King George V of the same tier, it's like comparing russian babushkas to Viking berserkers.  I'm only playing it to get C. Colombo. But I must also say that I have tier 9 premium Marco Polo and it's a very good and strong ship.

 

So I wonder is tier 8 Vagina Veneto playable or it's bad just like Caracciolo? Because if it's bad I might farm some free exp to skip another Italian / Wargaming's nightmare.

 

 

   

[arttuperkunas]

Just now, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

Currently playing F. Caracciolo, it's worst tier 7 ship in the game. Very short range, small HP, no torps, no hydro, no spotting plane, no anything, just abysmal dispersion. This ship is a joke. When I compare this ship to King George V of the same tier, it's like comparing russian babushkas to Viking berserkers.  I'm only playing it to get C. Colombo. But I must also say that I have tier 9 premium Marco Polo and it's a very good and strong ship.

 

So I wonder is tier 8 Vagina Veneto playable or it's bad just like Caracciolo? Because if it's bad I might farm some free exp to skip another Italian / Wargaming's nightmare.

 

 

   

Why would you free xp it? Do you think the line is going to get better?

 

If you don't like the playstyle at T7, I doubt you're going to like it at T9-10.

[anonym_ntfKigmJ0k9e]

Just now, arttuperkunas said:

Why would you free xp it? Do you think the line is going to get better?

 

If you don't like the playstyle at T7, I doubt you're going to like it at T9-10.

Marco Polo is excellent. And I would prefer answers from the OWNERS only. People comment ships that they don't have and never played. It's annoying.

[ColonelPete]

9 minutes ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

Currently playing F. Caracciolo, it's worst tier 7 ship in the game. Very short range, small HP, no torps, no hydro, no spotting plane, no anything, just abysmal dispersion. This ship is a joke. When I compare this ship to King George V of the same tier, it's like comparing russian babushkas to Viking berserkers.  I'm only playing it to get C. Colombo. But I must also say that I have tier 9 premium Marco Polo and it's a very good and strong ship.

 

So I wonder is tier 8 Vagina Veneto playable or it's bad just like Caracciolo? Because if it's bad I might farm some free exp to skip another Italian / Wargaming's nightmare.

You seem to have many worst ships in the game...

 

Francesco is one of the better Tier VII BB.

Veneto is also a solid Tier VIII BB.

 

On the other hand, one has to like the SAP mechanic and the low rate of fire. That is not everyones cup of tea.

 

 

[invicta2012]

To the OP: if you didn't enjoy the Frankie C (and I didn't) then don't waste your time skipping Tiers, it's just a waste of resources. If you haven't enjoyed the line so far, you won't enjoy the higher Tiers. Especially is Veneto is a sub-par Roma (and Roma herself is notoriously inconsistent). The whole SAP thing might chime with you, but if it doesn't, don't waste your time, there are plenty of other BB lines which are more straightforward and fun. 

[WorthyOpponent]

 

I played the whole line as middle range AP ships, they have pretty fast shells and when you catch someone off guard with your concealment you do some nasty things. 

[Yedwy]

49 minutes ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

Currently playing F. Caracciolo, it's worst tier 7 ship in the game. Very short range, small HP, no torps, no hydro, no spotting plane, no anything, just abysmal dispersion. This ship is a joke. When I compare this ship to King George V of the same tier, it's like comparing russian babushkas to Viking berserkers.  I'm only playing it to get C. Colombo. But I must also say that I have tier 9 premium Marco Polo and it's a very good and strong ship.

 

So I wonder is tier 8 Vagina Veneto playable or it's bad just like Caracciolo? Because if it's bad I might farm some free exp to skip another Italian / Wargaming's nightmare.

Honestly m8 if KGV is your mark of a good BB you might want to look at another line then the italians that dont sport HE shells at all...

 

Oh and yeah Veneto is nothing special, however the following ones arent either

[FatherTorque]

RM BBs perform well for me when used with AP. I rarely use Sap as the results are mostly not worth it.

[SV_Kompresor]

48 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Francesco is one of the better Tier VII BB.

Veneto is also a solid Tier VIII BB. 

Em.....no. They're trash.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, SV_Kompresor said:

Em.....no. They're trash.

Sure...

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[SV_Kompresor]

2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Sure...

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Must be why next to nobody is playing them.

 

Also I don't know what that number means so I'm gonna assume you're trying to show the wr. In which case, thank you for agreeing with me.

[ColonelPete]

Just now, SV_Kompresor said:

Must be why next to nobody is playing them.

 

Also I don't know what that number means so I'm gonna assume you're trying to show the wr. In which case, thank you for agreeing with me.

Not everyone likes the SAP mechanic.

 

And you do not seem to be able to read the WR.

[SV_Kompresor]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

Not everyone likes the SAP mechanic.

Very few do.

 

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

And you do not seem to be able to read the WR. 

Then enlighten me would you?

[ColonelPete]

15 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

Then enlighten me would you?

I do not know where your problem is.

Can you not read the numbers? Do you not know what they mean. Not that this was explained often enough...

[SV_Kompresor]

2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

I do not know where your problem is.

Can you not read the numbers? Do you not know what they mean. Not that this was explained often enough...

I mean, I didn't actually expect you to put any effort into it but even then I was disappointed.

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, SV_Kompresor said:

I mean, I didn't actually expect you to put any effort into it but even then I was disappointed.

Yes, asking what your problem is, is no effort...

 

Did you expect me to guess?

[SV_Kompresor]

6 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Did you expect me to guess?

Sure why not. Let's go with that.

[Pururut]

1 hour ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

Marco Polo is excellent. And I would prefer answers from the OWNERS only. People comment ships that they don't have and never played. It's annoying.

Feel free to start your own forum then. That aside Veneto is playable just like any other ship in this game. If you want a decent Italian battleship on the other hand, Roma is the only viable choice. 

[arttuperkunas]

2 hours ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

Marco Polo is excellent. And I would prefer answers from the OWNERS only. People comment ships that they don't have and never played. It's annoying.

I have friends. I talk to them. I have to endure them playing ITA bbs in my divs. I have never, to my knowledge, heard a single one of them describe any of the Italian ships as "good". Furthermore, I see enemies playing Ita BBs against me. They are pretty much the ships I am least worried about when I see them on the enemy team.

 

Then again, maybe it's the law that you can't talk about ships you don't play in the land where Marco Polo is considered "excellent". I wouldn't know, as I don't live in that land.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

3 hours ago, SEA_TRAKTOR said:

Marco Polo is excellent. And I would prefer answers from the OWNERS only. People comment ships that they don't have and never played. It's annoying.

I'm pretty sure a forum is a place where everyone can have a say. Imagine if I were to ban you from saying something because you are a terrible player. That would not be very nice, would it? So treat others like you wish to be treated yourself.

Italian BBs are not bad per se, but there are a lot better battleships in the game. They are not overly concerning unless you get caught off-guard.

[_Lupastro_]

Is V. Veneto playable?

 

 

[Rockstone_III]

I have the entire line unlocked. The Veneto is pretty bad. The Lepanto gets better and I really like the Colombo (play it a lot, even got the perma cammo for it). 

Armour is pretty good (though when focussed you will sink very fast - like in any other BB). Exhaust smoke is downright fun... though fireing penalty in smoke is pretty big and often smoke looses its effect after the first salvo. I had to get used to this... I turn out and when I am half way done in the turn, I fire. By the time the enemy shells are inbound, I am pretty wel angled... and smoke more then once saved my [edited]when an "island came out of nowhere"...

The SAP does great damage a to cruisers and above, but it really sucks against DD's. When the situation calls for it, I sometimes use a battleship to run down a destroyer (obviously the Germans are best at this with their hydro).
But this is a no-no in any Ita BB. SAP or AP means that even when you get off a salvo at close range, you cannot expect to kill the destroyer.... and generally in a BB you get either one shot or none at all.

[bct35]

7 dakika önce, Commander_Rockstone dedi:

The SAP does great damage a to cruisers and above, but it really sucks against DD's. When the situation calls for it, I sometimes use a battleship to run down a destroyer (obviously the Germans are best at this with their hydro).
But this is a no-no in any Ita BB. SAP or AP means that even when you get off a salvo at close range, you cannot expect to kill the destroyer.... and generally in a BB you get either one shot or none at all.

Actually SAP can kill DD's with ease. Once I ran through a DD with 30 knots speed and deleted instantly with SAP. Ballistics of ITA BB's are also nice. Problem is Italian dispersion when there is range between you and DD and cooldown.   

 

I love Italian Line after Andrea Doria, which is not a BB but FC (floating citadel). SAP is nice, and you have nice AP. Also VENETO has Smoke which is nice for escaping. Also looks beautiful instead of some disgusting abomination called Z*eten. ..

[ColonelPete]

11 minutes ago, bct35 said:

Actually SAP can kill DD's with ease. Once I ran through a DD with 30 knots speed and deleted instantly with SAP. Ballistics of ITA BB's are also nice. Problem is Italian dispersion when there is range between you and DD and cooldown.  

That is rather uncommon to hit that many shells. The advantage of SAP is the higher Alpha, but you still do only 10% damage vs DD. HE is much more effective vs DD.

[Northern_Nightowl]

Vor 5 Stunden, SEA_TRAKTOR sagte:

So I wonder is tier 8 Vittorio (FTFY) Veneto playable or it's bad just like Caracciolo? Because if it's bad I might farm some free exp to skip another Italian / Wargaming's nightmare.  

Pro: Good speed.

Pro: interesting ammunition (SAP)

Relative pro: crawling smoke.

HUGE con: Shotgun-like accuracy. I mean with this: you cannot count on getting hits even with perfectly straddling salvoes.

Con: long reload, albeit not as long as in a Kansas.

Relative con: eyesore early access camo (I don't want to have a flagpole sticking out of the bridge. The Alea iacta est paintwork is nicely made, though).

 

I actually avoid playing my Veneto in Randoms, as I cannot work around it's nonexistent gun accuracy (grinded through Carraciolo in Narai), while being hampered by the relative fragility (North Carolina for accuracy or Bismarck for robustness are more suited for me). It may be usable in Coop, when you need some bits of BB made damage, either from the SAP loaded main battery or the secondaries.

 

Regards, Nightowl