[SYTHE] yagron_the_real Players 76 posts 4,822 battles Report post #1 Posted February 1, 2022 What you think? Plymouth is not hugely popular as a steel ship, and moving her over to the coal selection would certainly help in that regard. WG have done this move in the past. Also this would give the RN a high tier coal ship. So will it happen? Should it? What price would you consider reasonable? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,637 battles Report post #2 Posted February 1, 2022 Too soon I think - good ship - plays like Edinburgh but with radar and smoke - fragile and radar could be slightly longer range as at TX but still fun ship. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #3 Posted February 1, 2022 Same as above. Needs more range, but lots of fun. As for coal, we need more coal ships. Always a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #4 Posted February 1, 2022 Moving steel ships to coal is a bit poor for those who paid steel. Plymouth is surely better than Austin? I have neither but just from what I’ve seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #5 Posted February 1, 2022 How about Gibraltar for free-exp? I've never seen that ship in battle. Is there even a point for that ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #6 Posted February 1, 2022 Yup. Great idea. I bought the Flint for steel, and the Black, and feel stupid for buying those for steel already. One more can only make me feel more of an idiot. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #7 Posted February 1, 2022 Maybe they should ask themselfs why is it not so popular? Maybe the ships needs a buff? Maybe is not fun to not have HE and getting devastated by everything once you are spotted? Maybe they should start buffing some ships instead of letting them rot in the port, I am looking at you fen yang. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #8 Posted February 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said: How about Gibraltar for free-exp? I've never seen that ship in battle. Is there even a point for that ship? I do quite well in it but can't really explain why. It feels like a much larger des moines with two thirds the dpm, pretty useless smoke and no radar. It blaps DDs beautifully but is quite limited in both it's dpm and armour 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYTHE] yagron_the_real Players 76 posts 4,822 battles Report post #9 Posted February 1, 2022 I don't think it's a bad ship (I don't have it tho), but it seems most people consider the other options are better. Also it seems steel ships are released faster than one can earn steel. So only people who have Plymouth are seemingly the few who are swimming in steel, or emotionally connected to the playstyle, the RN flag or the city... @Europizza that's a valid concern, and I do not know a good solution. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #10 Posted February 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, yagron_the_real said: I don't think it's a bad ship (I don't have it tho), but it seems most people consider the other options are better. Also it seems steel ships are released faster than one can earn steel. So only people who have Plymouth are seemingly the few who are swimming in steel, or emotionally connected to the playstyle, the RN flag or the city... @Europizza that's a valid concern, and I do not know a good solution. I'm never swimming in steel, it's a rare resource for me. That is why i carefully pick ships I really like, which all somehow always the ships that get turned into coal or are unpopular. I only have Black, Flint and Plymouth as 'steel' ships. I like the Plymouth due to it's toolset that is great for supporting DD's and caps. It's a great ship for teamplayers, which makes it a stupid ship for most I guess. It has abysmal avg damage of all T10 cruisers for the EU server, so I wouldn't mind a reload buff :P Why everybody and their mother buys Stalingrads even when they hate the playstyle of that ship, is a mystery to me. But then again, I'm the same idiot who picked the Hayate over the Smaland 1 week before they announced the withdrawl of the Smaland becasue I genuinly like it better and don't care for radar DD's. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P7S] Vbeest Players 452 posts Report post #11 Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, yagron_the_real said: What you think? It keeps baffling me how people here think that what we think somehow matters... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #12 Posted February 1, 2022 What wg did with Flint and Black removing them from steel to coal was a mistake. Two mistakes don't make a right, hence if you want to have Plymouth, get it the right way by putting some effort to collect steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYTHE] yagron_the_real Players 76 posts 4,822 battles Report post #13 Posted February 1, 2022 41 minutes ago, Europizza said: Why everybody and their mother buys Stalingrads even when they hate the playstyle of that ship, is a mystery to me. For instance I bought it for CB purposes. 42 minutes ago, Vbeest said: It keeps baffling me how people here think that what we think somehow matters... Hey, I was bored at work... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #14 Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Europizza said: Yup. Great idea. I bought the Flint for steel, and the Black, and feel stupid for buying those for steel already. One more can only make me feel more of an idiot. that coin has 2 sides, I feel stupid for NOT buying Black for steel when she was available .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[777TH] MaxGct Players 39 posts 19,335 battles Report post #15 Posted February 1, 2022 Plymouth is hugely underrated and was my first steel ship. It's utility in randoms with so many consumables is excellent, as long as there is something spotting for you. The ability to also drop a 54 second radar and smoke is very powerful, specifically against enemy dd's. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #16 Posted February 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said: that coin has 2 sides, I feel stupid for NOT buying Black for steel when she was available .... That's because WG is unreliable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #17 Posted February 1, 2022 Nah, make it an FXP ship. There's not enough of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,413 battles Report post #18 Posted February 1, 2022 Just improve the turret angles. The Plymouth is very good in some circumstances, but she's already severely limited by her armament (no HE, few torps, mediocre AA). Good turret angles would at least make her a lot more comfortable, as well as a bit safer: she wouldn't need to show as much broadside when smoked up, giving torpedoes a smaller target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] nurtacmc Players 95 posts 25,054 battles Report post #19 Posted February 1, 2022 bad news for those who have previously with steel. Is there any compensation for them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #20 Posted February 1, 2022 Yep mine totally needs a buff, gotta get it up to 90% WR... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #21 Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Fatal_Ramses said: How about Gibraltar for free-exp? Just use FXP to reset lines and collect RPs instead. 25 minutes ago, nurtacmc said: bad news for those who have previously with steel. Is there any compensation for them? You should use bigger font as your post is hardly noticeable. And if you bothered to actually read a post, this was not an announcement but proposal by player. Also if WG decide to do something like this you can expect exactly the same compensation as for Flint. Black and Neustra ... and that is absolutely nothing. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] nurtacmc Players 95 posts 25,054 battles Report post #22 Posted February 1, 2022 fumtu tnx for explane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #23 Posted February 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, fumtu said: Just use FXP to reset lines and collect RPs instead. I have 4/8 of the RBs ships. Looking at the rest I think Gibraltar would be my 8th.... after buying some legendary mods. I would rather use free-exp than waste RPs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #24 Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said: I would rather use free-exp than waste RPs. So I guess would some others but still they did waste their RPs on it. And it would not cost 2 just million for sure, just look at those ex-steel-now-coal ships prices. I doubt It would not cost less than it would be required to get it by resetting lines using FXP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #25 Posted February 2, 2022 19 hours ago, Europizza said: I like the Plymouth due to it's toolset that is great for supporting DD's and caps. It's a great ship for teamplayers, which makes it a stupid ship for most I guess. It has abysmal avg damage of all T10 cruisers for the EU server, so I wouldn't mind a reload buff :P Yes, when you follow two divmates with a DD and a CA it is daaaaamn handy. Mind the average damage is "average". I get around 80-100K in a game. But average, I get blapped (duh) so that is why. 19 hours ago, Europizza said: Why everybody and their mother buys Stalingrads even when they hate the playstyle of that ship, is a mystery to me. Because they can sort of "shine" when they play sole (they have no friends) Ehh.. I suppose it has something to do with Clan Battle. But since everybody has it, I do not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
