Roadmap for 2022

[Hugh_Ruka]

1 hour ago, YabbaCoe said:

European tree is for the nations, that doesn't have much data, historical ships and plans to make entire tech tree with few different branches. 

I am quite interested in the Spanish BB line and cruiser line. As in what imagination on your side will it take to come up with a full tech tree ...

 

Oh yea, right .... historical accuracy ... I forgot ... sorry ...

[CastorTolagi]

15 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

I am quite interested in the Spanish BB line and cruiser line. As in what imagination on your side will it take to come up with a full tech tree ...

 

Oh yea, right .... historical accuracy ... I forgot ... sorry ...

Credits to Kingpin

[Hugh_Ruka]

3 minutes ago, CastorTolagi said:

Credits to Kingpin

As  I expected. 2 real ships, one plan to buy from Italy and projects that never happened or were aborted at the design stage. The most complete line are DDs ...

 

I see that's the main reason for a Spanish tree ... ALL the minor nations had mostly DDs, coastal patrol ships and a few cruisers. So the Pan-EU line would have like 5-6 DD lines and a cruiser line glued together from all existing cruisers.

[416taylor]

I don't give a crap anymore. I 've my grandmaster and soon I'll have the highest emblem in ranked after that goodbuy to ranked. mayby some steel catching for as long as that is possible. I've more then 20 000 expandables camos and something similer of signals and economic flags. 40 elitecommanders and about 30 19-skills and 17 15 skills plus 150 others not below 10-skill.

I. will not buy any ship in the premiumshop not do any early access. Somebody said this is a free to play game and I will make it that for me. Why? subs, superships and gready WG and their lousy MM. We are not in control of the game we enter and very seldom able to do some about the utcome. 

 

[416taylor]

14 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

As  I expected. 2 real ships, one plan to buy from Italy and projects that never happened or were aborted at the design stage. The most complete line are DDs ...

 

I see that's the main reason for a Spanish tree ... ALL the minor nations had mostly DDs, coastal patrol ships and a few cruisers. So the Pan-EU line would have like 5-6 DD lines and a cruiser line glued together from all existing cruisers.

Sweden could come up with a cruiser line for sure. In wargamings world I'm  sure sweden had plans for battleships  and even cv,s. I'm afraid that sweden have had and still have some of the best submarines in the world. but I dont want any subs so

[CastorTolagi]

ohhh no filling up a Tech Tree with ship projects - thats something unheared of.

Clearly has never been done.

All the british CAs must be real ships then - right......right?!

No but clearly the Royal Navy, the biggest navy in the world. At least the BBs are all real ships......

What do you mean No? What, ha? The italian BBs have less projects in the BB tree than the brits?!

 

I wonder - how many full lines would we have with that attitude?

Hmmm what?

3!!!

Spoiler

(Shimakaze line, RN DDs and US CVs)

Oh dear.

[416taylor]

Just a question. When we enter a ranked or random battle we provide our ships with signals, economic and special flags in our hunt for benefits  that we have earned. We expect to have at least 80-100 k HP damage to enimyships in average..

For the last three uppdates we have been forced to face submarines and superships wich have reduced our average HP down to 40-50 k of HP when we've been sunk early in the battle by op Yamagiri burnd to death from an op Condé or being bollied of a secondary rain from op Hannover. coming with broadsides and not even reacting  for a AP-salvo from Yamato not to menagen  being torped by an invicible supmarine when you are a sitting duck in your bb. 

Now the question. How are you going to compensate us for the lost of all our goodies. We did not apply to be testingrats. We vere forsed both in ranked and now even random

[Anthoniusii]

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

 

 

Regarding exact details on how this economy separation of camouflages will work, it is still too soon. We will make sure to inform you on all the details on how it will work in advance. So definitely check our DevBlog.

 

European tree is for the nations, that doesn't have much data, historical ships and plans to make entire tech tree with few different branches. 

 

I am glad, that you like those. True is, that Gearing line was waiting long for its HD models. 

 

Yes! Which ships you think can appear in that tech tree?

If cannos wont have any economy features will WG return ALL OUR REAL MONEY THAT WE SPENT TO BUY TIER10 CAMMOS and tier 8 to 10 premium ships? 

If you chabge the rules under whoch we spent REAL MONEY WG is by the law (unless it wishes conflicts in EU Countries courts) to return that money because the main factor that lead to their possetion will no longer exist. That can be interpreted as STREALING AND FRAUD .WG MUST CHOSE wisely.

[Yamashiro42]

3 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Regarding exact details on how this economy separation of camouflages will work, it is still too soon. We will make sure to inform you on all the details on how it will work in advance. So definitely check our DevBlog.

Well, but people can still purchase permacamos now, and later they may feel robbed if you simply remove economic bunuses from them, telling them eg. that they still have their permanent ship look available. I feel that the future status of permanent camouflages should be published asap...

[YabbaCoe]

18 minutes ago, Anthoniusii said:

If cannos wont have any economy features will WG return ALL OUR REAL MONEY THAT WE SPENT TO BUY TIER10 CAMMOS and tier 8 to 10 premium ships? 

If you chabge the rules under whoch we spent REAL MONEY WG is by the law (unless it wishes conflicts in EU Countries courts) to return that money because the main factor that lead to their possetion will no longer exist. That can be interpreted as STREALING AND FRAUD .WG MUST CHOSE wisely.

You won't definitely loose anything with this separation. We showed, that we are preparing this, but no exact detail was shown on that for now. But we surely have in mind the topic of permacamos and we will make sure, that it will be beneficial and interesting for everybody. 

 

1 minute ago, Yamashiro42 said:

Well, but people can still purchase permacamos now, and later they may feel robbed if you simply remove economic bunuses from them, telling them eg. that they still have their permanent ship look available. I feel that the future status of permanent camouflages should be published asap...

Well, they can still use those permacamos until the change and I am confident, that even after this change, still those permacamos will be important. And it is planned for summer, so we have plenty months before this will happen. 

[Nauseica]

Summing up for my self

 

Winter
Mostly decent stuff but nothing hilarious broken

 

Spring

Italian dd's can be fun IF you will be able to balance them correctly - still hoping for fun experience
Rogue wave and Sea Battle is really nice addition on paper lets all hope you wont destroy it with some major lootbox scheme right !!!

 

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If the supership testing turns out to be a success and returns good results, then this spring we'll extend the existing ship branches by adding their own respective superships.

Submarine testing will resume. The fate of the new ship type will depend on the test results.

IF - success = superships / Depend on results = submarines
Right now you dont care what the majority community thinks about them so i would prefer to not lies on our face - you want them on the game no matter what - i dont have a problem with superships IF they will be restricted to their own battle mode and not interfere with randoms/rank modes.

 

New map hourayyyyy

 

Summer

New British bc line seems nice on paper if it would play like the Repulse

The economical system revamp ..... ye how many times you havent upset the community with revamps ..... its still too soon to QQ but idont have much faith doing that in proper way ..... i hope it will go smooth but lets be honest everyone is waiting another PR disaster ... i hope you learn from your mistakes and have your apology letter post it faster these time

 

Good thing that let us now the short planning on what we can expect +1 for that

[Yamashiro42]

17 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

You won't definitely loose anything with this separation. We showed, that we are preparing this, but no exact detail was shown on that for now. But we surely have in mind the topic of permacamos and we will make sure, that it will be beneficial and interesting for everybody. 

 

Well, they can still use those permacamos until the change and I am confident, that even after this change, still those permacamos will be important. And it is planned for summer, so we have plenty months before this will happen. 

So "permanent" now can mean "time-limited" in WG's vocabulary?

[YabbaCoe]

17 minutes ago, Yamashiro42 said:

So "permanent" now can mean "time-limited" in WG's vocabulary?

No, permanent is permanent... As I mentioned, I don't have exact information on how exactly all those changes will look like, but permacamos most likely will still be permacamos on those ships. 

Maybe this change will touch only consumable ones, or maybe permacamos will still have something, or maybe changes will be applied also to permacamos, or maybe you would be able to stack up more thing on permacamo, or maybe not. 

We all will see, how all this will look like when we would have more information on this topic.

[Spartan_93]

21 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said:

No, permanent is permanent... As I mentioned, I don't have exact information on how exactly all those changes will look like, but permacamos most likely will still be permacamos on those ships. 

Maybe this change will touch only consumable ones, or maybe permacamos will still have something, or maybe changes will be applied also to permacamos, or maybe you would be able to stack up more thing on permacamo, or maybe not. 

We all will see, how all this will look like when we would have more information on this topic.

 

You know, this is quite a sensitive topic, and a vague "we want to change something" is just adding fuel to the fire and just heats up the discussions/assumptions.

 

It is still the same bad communication, you promised to change in your Important message for the community

 

[_Kokushibo_]

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

Maybe this change will touch only consumable ones, or maybe permacamos will still have something, or maybe changes will be applied also to permacamos, or maybe you would be able to stack up more thing on permacamo, or maybe not. 

It's hilarious to hear this kind of response from a CM. Or maybe not.

[FrankvC_Jr]

5 horas antes, CastorTolagi dijo:

Credits to Kingpin

That tree is really nice, but imo, the top tier BBs should follow the trend of using Littorio-Roma kind of ships.

 

The reasons are many to be listed here but the main one would be the fact that, from 1939 onwards, the SECN (Sociedad Española de Construcción Naval-Spanish Society for Naval Construction) was ended, thus finalizing the UK-Vickers influence on future ship designs for the Spanish navy.

 

As such, I strongly believe that WG should go for improved, better Roma-ish kind of ships. My friend @manolojones is preparing a special post discussing the “Spanish Littorio” for this evening, so I recommend you check that if you have interest.

5 horas antes, Hugh_Ruka dijo:

As  I expected. 2 real ships, one plan to buy from Italy and projects that never happened or were aborted at the design stage. The most complete line are DDs ...

 

I see that's the main reason for a Spanish tree ... ALL the minor nations had mostly DDs, coastal patrol ships and a few cruisers. So the Pan-EU line would have like 5-6 DD lines and a cruiser line glued together from all existing cruisers.

To be fair, that’s even better than the PanAsia CLs we just got. Let’s just check:

 

Cruisers: All the way to Canarias are both real, built and fought (Just a small tidbit: the name is Galicia, not Galacia) The remaining ones are real projects; the fact that the Amalfi and Bríndisi were designs for Spain makes easy for WG to pick the remaining design and making her a tier 8. The tier 9 could be a “buffed Amalfi” or a “weakened” Pr138, leaving the improved, modernized 138 for tier 10. For the tier 7 we need a fabrication, but that’s not uncommon in wows (see Harleem for example)

 

Battleships: What I said above 

 

Destroyers: Little to add to Kingping tree

 

You could even add CVs! But do we really need more?

 

As you can see, Spain can fill more branches, with more real built ships than even things like Dutch cruisers, PanAsia CLs, Soviet CVs and so on 

[416taylor]

is the thing about camos and economics just a smokescreen to take our attension from subs and superships. We all know that WG will implement both types to the game no matter what we says. 

it wouldn't be to difficult to win a war over russia. They are so predictable.

[YabbaCoe]

2 hours ago, Spartan_93 said:

 

You know, this is quite a sensitive topic, and a vague "we want to change something" is just adding fuel to the fire and just heats up the discussions/assumptions.

 

It is still the same bad communication, you promised to change in your Important message for the community

 

 

1 hour ago, _Kokushibo_ said:

It's hilarious to hear this kind of response from a CM. Or maybe not.

 

I am just saying, what was presented: We plan to overhaul the in-game economic system and also separate it from ship exteriors. Economic bonuses will be separated from signals and camouflages and be made into a stand-alone entity. This means that you'll be able to choose your ship's appearance and select economic bonuses separately. Signals and camouflages will serve as elements of the exterior and yield combat bonuses only.

 

But unfortunately currently there is no other more detailed information on this topic. Therefore currently I can't tell you how exactly it will look like, especially regarding permacamos. 

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

4 hours ago, Anthoniusii said:

If cannos wont have any economy features will WG return ALL OUR REAL MONEY THAT WE SPENT TO BUY TIER10 CAMMOS and tier 8 to 10 premium ships? 

If you chabge the rules under whoch we spent REAL MONEY WG is by the law (unless it wishes conflicts in EU Countries courts) to return that money because the main factor that lead to their possetion will no longer exist. That can be interpreted as STREALING AND FRAUD .WG MUST CHOSE wisely.

Technically they do not owe you anything, you waive your right to a refund by buying something that is not a ship from the premium shop and WG owns everything on your account by the Terms of Service. You can demand a chargeback, where you can get some recently spent money back but WG will lock your account.

[Pt4h]

I think the currently "normal" ADHD-type culture that DEMANDS new stuff/features on just about everything ALL THE TIME will eventually pass.

As for WoWs, I like most of it the way it is and don't need new stuff, and ESPECIALLY NOT new stuff that makes the old stuff perform less well.
For example I was recently forced to retire one of my beloved BB's as the thing didn't have a chance against some of the new boats. I did not like that one bit. 

Mind you, I will at some point quit for another few years as I've done in the past when I'm fed up with the things I don't like, but I really want to postpone that moment. 

[Templarblade]

Sadly as I can see this game is going down the same road as WoT and it's not pretty.
WoWs lost my interest a long time ago when WG decided to destroy the game from the inside like with WoT.
Good luck Gamers and in particular WG developing teams

[416taylor]

WG has allready nerft the coal in the daily containers. I wonder why. 

I find it very strange that some days everything hits it target  and fires, citadelhits are adding in while enimys are just missing me and then suddenly the next day nothing hits or if it hits it is richochet or none pen or overpen and it's impossible to get more then 50 k in a battle 

 Pls WG don't say thats because of me.

[CollingwoodDK]

2 hours ago, YabbaCoe said:

I am just saying, what was presented: We plan to overhaul the in-game economic system and also separate it from ship exteriors. Economic bonuses will be separated from signals and camouflages and be made into a stand-alone entity. This means that you'll be able to choose your ship's appearance and select economic bonuses separately. Signals and camouflages will serve as elements of the exterior and yield combat bonuses only.

 

But unfortunately currently there is no other more detailed information on this topic. Therefore currently I can't tell you how exactly it will look like, especially regarding permacamos. 

No need to fix anything which is working!

The funny thing is you are still selling the camouflages and signals - even in lootboxes.

Your plans lead to a picture which might people consider to buy nothing at all.

It is just like your missed chance to make a difference between premium and special ships.

 

Maybe fix the missing possibilities of intern player communication ingame instead.

There is still no blackboard for clans. No intern mail system. And the general chat is not working all the time.

Your latest development leads to a point where I can not run my firefox anymore because your game intern browser needs the same resources.

 

Is there any chance you will fix the autopilot at some point?

 

[Concrete_Potato]

We have said this a million times one detonation flag costs 96K per battle.

ONE FLAG!!!....

There are no credits gained when you play a good teamplay ranked battle. I ve won a game dealing only 9K in a shimakaze, cause I was overspoting everyone. Good team, we ve won. No credits. Easy.

Do the math... WE do not earn credits in ranked battles. And I need all the flags to play.

[Concrete_Potato]

2 minutes ago, CollingwoodDK said:

No need to fix anything which is working!

The funny thing is you are still selling the camouflages and signals - even in lootboxes.

Your plans lead to a picture which might people consider to buy nothing at all.

It is just like your missed chance to make a difference between premium and special ships.

 

Maybe fix the missing possibilities of intern player communication ingame instead.

There is still no blackboard for clans. No intern mail system. And the general chat is not working all the time.

Your latest development leads to a point where I can not run my firefox anymore because your game intern browser needs the same resources.

 

Is there any chance you will fix the autopilot at some point?

 

 

I have to agree with the comunications.. Even in the chat the word ''I am not sorry'' is nowhere to be found on presets.