Next ranked season: puhlease not just T10

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WG: please don't make next ranked season T10(+) exclusive. The current ranked season is imo one of the worst in history due to the terrible quality of gameplay. This is caused by the influx of tryhards with shiny new toys which they are unable to play effectively.

As people with just a couple of hundred battles can now have T10 ships, we see a flood of 45% WR players who ruin ranked by not understanding even basic principles. 

Last season with T6-10 was much better in my experience. So please have silver and bronze with lower tiers, if you must have your precious T10 in gold.

[Hakssor]

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Ranked battles

From February 16 to May 11, the sixth Ranked battles season will be held. 

Format

Bronze League: 7 vs 7 on Tier VI-VII ships;

Silver League: 6 vs 6 on Tier VIII-IX ships;

Gold League: 5 vs 5 on Tier X ships.

Only for Gold League next season. I hope we never see Tier X again in Bronze/Silver, it was painful to play. 

[Hirohito]

Please, only T10.

The other tiers dont interest me at all.

[SodaBubbles]

1 hour ago, Hakssor said:

Only for Gold League next season. I hope we never see Tier X again in Bronze/Silver, it was painful to play. 

That's excellent news.

[bobtherterrible]

I imagine CVs will be even more balanced at T10 in 5x5

[Fatal_Ramses]

Please more X in bronze and silver!

I want more Shimas that rush the nearest cap and trying to flip it from a Daring supported by their fleet.

I want more yoloing Shitropavlovks that rush straight to the enemy.

I want more Kremlins that thing they are Slavas and end up alone with 90% hitpoints only to be rammed by 3k HP Montana.

 

and yes this all was in a single game.

please WG moar of this! You havent lost enough good players yet!

[Hirohito]

6 minutes ago, Fatal_Ramses said:

Please more X in bronze and silver!

I want more Shimas that rush the nearest cap and trying to flip it from a Daring supported by their fleet.

I want more yoloing Shitropavlovks that rush straight to the enemy.

I want more Kremlins that thing they are Slavas and end up alone with 90% hitpoints only to be rammed by 3k HP Montana.

 

and yes this all was in a single game.

please WG moar of this! You havent lost enough good players yet!

How is this going to change with lower tiers though?
I'll tell you what's gonna happen - instead of the shima smoking up in the cap, you now get a Kagero doing it.

The only thing that will change is the name of the ship doing the bad play.

[Hugh_Ruka]

22 minutes ago, bobtherterrible said:

I imagine CVs will be even more balanced at T10 in 5x5

This !!!

 

Normally I do not play Gold, never tried (I don't want to annoy people in Gold with my sub-par skills) but if they do not ban CVs from such a small format it will be an excrementshow.

[Hirohito]

Lol, @Hakssor downvotes me because I point out that the quality of play wont improve when you drop the tiers for ranked.
What, don't like to hear the truth?

[Hakssor]

8 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

How is this going to change with lower tiers though?
I'll tell you what's gonna happen - instead of the shima smoking up in the cap, you now get a Kagero doing it.

The only thing that will change is the name of the ship doing the bad play.

There is less DPM and radar to kill him. Most shimas die because they get radared and focused. 

[Hakssor]

6 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Lol, @Hakssor downvotes me because I point out that the quality of play wont improve when you drop the tiers for ranked.
What, don't like to hear the truth?

Yes, I downvote you because you have stupid takes. If you played enough ranked at all tiers you will see the difference. You have less than 100 battles in Ranked I-IX but you claim to know the "truth".

Everyone knows that high tiers are more complex therefore it's easier for new players to make mistakes.

[Hirohito]

Just now, Hakssor said:

There is less DPM and radar to kill him. Most shimas die because they get radared and focused. 

There is also less hp on those DDs, and radar exists plenty at T8.

I can easily dig up some videos of earlier T6 ranked even, that shows how fast those DDs explode when they do a moronic play.
The problem at that tier is that concealment values are not exactly great, while cap circles are often smaller and thus you have DDs bumping into each other a lot faster.
Also add in few boats that can stealth torp (or that window being smaller), and you have a recipe for disaster.

T10 vs. T8 or even T6 won't change a thing.
Bad players will be just as bad as they are now, and quality wont improve one bit.

 

[Hakssor]

Just now, Hirohito said:

There is also less hp on those DDs, and radar exists plenty at T8.

I can easily dig up some videos of earlier T6 ranked even, that shows how fast those DDs explode when they do a moronic play.
The problem at that tier is that concealment values are not exactly great, while cap circles are often smaller and thus you have DDs bumping into each other a lot faster.
Also add in few boats that can stealth torp (or that window being smaller), and you have a recipe for disaster.

T10 vs. T8 or even T6 won't change a thing.
Bad players will be just as bad as they are now, and quality wont improve one bit.

 

T6-7 as it's gonna be the Bronze has almost no radar. Only Atlanta and Indianapolis I think. Stupid mistakes happen all the time but at T10 they happen more often. You need "videos" because you haven't played enough yourself.

[Hirohito]

7 minutes ago, Hakssor said:

Yes, I downvote you because you have stupid takes. If you played enough ranked at all tiers you will see the difference. You have less than 100 battles in Ranked I-IX but you claim to know the "truth".

Everyone knows that high tiers are more complex therefore it's easier for new players to make mistakes.

Are you serious here?

How is lowering the tiers making it easier to play?
Ranked (T6 an example) will have T10 veterans playing it, as well as people who just started grinding their first lines.
How is that reducing the chance of mistakes?
You'd just increase the chance to have veterans pitted together with newbies.

And if we're gonna use stats as a relevant argument, be my guest:
Yeah at least I have decent stats in ranked to know what I'm talking about.

[Hakssor]

3 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Are you serious here?

How is lowering the tiers making it easier to play?
Ranked (T6 an example) will have T10 veterans playing it, as well as people who just started grinding their first lines.
How is that reducing the chance of mistakes?
You'd just increase the chance to have veterans pitted together with newbies.

And if we're gonna use stats as a relevant argument, be my guest:
Yeah at least I have decent stats in ranked to know what I'm talking about.

Yes, I am serious. Everyone complains about newbies going for high tiers but here you are claiming it makes no difference.  I invite you to try and experiment Bronze in Sprints 4-6 after everyone promoted  You don't know what you're talking about because you probably didn't spent more than 2 sprints in Bronze.  

[Kruzenstern]

Players will be just as terrible at lower tiers, that's for sure. But I would be more inclined to play ranked at all with lower tier ships because battles tend to be more interesting and less static at those tiers. And of course because I have a lot more ships at tiers 5-8 than 10...

[Hirohito]

6 minutes ago, Hakssor said:

Yes, I am serious. Everyone complains about newbies going for high tiers but here you are claiming it makes no difference.  I invite you to try and experiment Bronze in Sprints 4-6 after everyone promoted  You don't know what you're talking about because you probably didn't spent more than 2 sprints in Bronze.  

Ok, so let me get this straight.

I dont know what I am talking about when it comes to how fast DDs die in lower tiers, because I had less than 100 ranked games in anything lower than tier 10?

 

At what point can I understand how fast DDs die in lower tiers?

Will I only understand how fast they die after I reach exactly 100 battles? 120? 200 battles? Where is the magical numbers?

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, bobtherterrible said:

I imagine CVs will be even more balanced at T10 in 5x5

Yeah in silver as well, I will bring my Ckalov

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

5 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Ok, so let me get this straight.

I dont know what I am talking about when it comes to how fast DDs die in lower tiers, because I had less than 100 ranked games in anything lower than tier 10?

 

At what point can I understand how fast DDs die in lower tiers?

Will I only understand how fast they die after I reach exactly 100 battles? 120? 200 battles? Where is the magical numbers?

You will understand how fast they die at an arbitrary point set by your discussion partner in order to disqualify your opinions. Although going by stats like he does, you have roughly twice as much right to talk about the game than he does... Someone who knows what they are talking about is better than someone who failed their way through X times as many games as you.

[arttuperkunas]

1 hour ago, bobtherterrible said:

I imagine CVs will be even more balanced at T10 in 5x5

I was momentarily excited at the novelty of 5 vs 5 and 6 vs 6.

 

Thanks for bringing me down to earth. Ugh.

[Hakssor]

17 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Ok, so let me get this straight.

I dont know what I am talking about when it comes to how fast DDs die in lower tiers, because I had less than 100 ranked games in anything lower than tier 10?

 

At what point can I understand how fast DDs die in lower tiers?

Will I only understand how fast they die after I reach exactly 100 battles? 120? 200 battles? Where is the magical numbers?

You have 63 battles in tiers I-IX in four ranked seasons which is like a year. Have you even played in Sprints 3-6 after everyone decent already promoted? I didn't have time  to promote this season early and in Sprint 3 it was painful to play T10 ranked, even worse than previous seasons. It was worse than normal randoms. Silver is much better.

 

 

[__Helmut_Kohl__]

Please no low tiers.

 

It is just silly.

[General_Alexus]

At T10 there are at least balanced TechTree ships.

At T6 you need to use premium ships, and dont even get me started with Captain perks, my Captains are trained for T10/T9 ships, without a premium ship you have to use a shitty captain on top of a shitty ship.

T8 is not that bad, but people wanting T6 is a bit funny as they essentially want WG to make cash.

[FonikiSayionara]

Cant wait for the 4v4 games in gold cause cvs xD.... -,-

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1 hour ago, Hirohito said:

How is this going to change with lower tiers though?
I'll tell you what's gonna happen - instead of the shima smoking up in the cap, you now get a Kagero doing it.

The only thing that will change is the name of the ship doing the bad play.

I thought about the same, but T10 ships are much more unforgiving than lower tiers. So mistakes in T10 are a bigger problem than in lower tiers.

Also, in the previous season I liked the T6-7 and T8-9 battles much better than T10+ bronze and silver this time around.