Research Bureau picks

[________________Morrison]

Good mornin,

 

I have a "problem"

I want a ship from the Reseach Bureau. But I can't really make a choice.

 

I already have Siegfried and Colbert.

 

Current DD's except for maybe Paolo aren't very interesting to me.

I like Georgia and I already have a Thunderer. So Ohio isn't that nessesary.

 

Only leaving over Slava and Gibraltar.

I play most bbs with range build, but am no strange to over extending. Just to be a [edited] to a guy on the otherside of the map.

 

Now Slava has that hidden plate, but still overal isn't Kremlin levels of armor.

And Gibraltar has mixed oppinions. But I like Goliath.

 

What do you say?

[Ocsimano18]

1 minute ago, ________________Infinity said:

 

What do you say?

Ohio. The playstyle is different from Georgia and Thunderer, and rated higher by experts and according to piurple player stats.

[Miragetank90]

Slava or Gibraltar? Slava.

 

No but seriously, Ohio. 

 

 

[Yedwy]

31 minutes ago, ________________Infinity said:

Good mornin,

 

I have a "problem"

I want a ship from the Reseach Bureau. But I can't really make a choice.

 

I already have Siegfried and Colbert.

 

Current DD's except for maybe Paolo aren't very interesting to me.

I like Georgia and I already have a Thunderer. So Ohio isn't that nessesary.

 

Only leaving over Slava and Gibraltar.

I play most bbs with range build, but am no strange to over extending. Just to be a [edited] to a guy on the otherside of the map.

 

Now Slava has that hidden plate, but still overal isn't Kremlin levels of armor.

And Gibraltar has mixed oppinions. But I like Goliath.

 

What do you say?

Wait for sevastopol

[tocqueville8]

I would pass on the Ohio for the time being.

 

These days you can't play T10 without running into the Schlieffen, and that thing dumpsters the Ohio in a brawl:

- fast dmgcon vs fast heal, let's say that's a tie

- Schlieffen is way stealthier, so she can dictate the terms

- Schlieffen is way faster, so she can force the fight

- Schlieffen has torps

- the Schlieffen's 150s pen the Ohio's deck (38 mm), and her 105 will pen her extremities (32 mm) with IFHE, which many Schlieffens take

- on the contrary, the Ohio can only pen the Schlieffen's superstructure with her secondaries

 

The Ohio may be better at range, but her poor ballistics still leave her behind the Montana and others as a sniper, imho.

 

I had some great games in the Ohio, but also many frustrating ones, in which the guns proved unreliable (though the turret traverse is very nice, I'll admit) and/or I was out-secondaried by the new German line. In short, she's not overperforming for me, and I don't find her particularly satisfying, either.

 

On the other hand, the Vampire 2 is overperforming for me 

 

[Communist_Loli]

Ohio's secondary suite is far above Georgia's. The difference lies in the almost doubled fire chance (9% vs 5%). 

[Chaoskraehe]

I like Gibraltar, good ship. 

 

And most of my Krakens are from Yolo Emilio. 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

2 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Ohio. The playstyle is different from Georgia and Thunderer, and rated higher by experts and according to piurple player stats.

I will second that. Georgia is very different from Ohio. If you are torn between Slava and Gibraltar, my question is why would anyone want a Slava?

[________________Morrison]

13 minutes ago, Europizza said:

I will second that. Georgia is very different from Ohio. If you are torn between Slava and Gibraltar, my question is why would anyone want a Slava?

"Accurate guns with more range than Thunderer has since its nerf" For the across the map citadel. Yea its smaller caliber, Montana has more guns, Also has a spotter. But I don't know if Slava is that much more acurate or not. It also doesn't tank as well as montana does it?

[________________Morrison]

2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Wait for sevastopol

Honestly I forgot that thing existed. But isnt it just russian Siegfried now that it got all its gimmics removed?

[________________Morrison]

Seeing alot of votes for Ohio. But it being good for porple stats. Kinda becomes invalid if you look at mine

[AkerJack]

I have the Ohio and she is a very fun ship...my next RB ship will be Slava. The others have no appeal to me.

[Yedwy]

37 minutes ago, ________________Infinity said:

Honestly I forgot that thing existed. But isnt it just russian Siegfried now that it got all its gimmics removed?

Well still makes more sense then other options for you…

You said you dont want DDs, Ohio is old news now that there are loads of 18” armed ships, Slava while having meme gunnery doesnt really bring much over other snipers you can have from the tech-tree (some even with overmatching guns) let alone Thunderer that is more then capable of the same meme accuracy just with bigger shells, Gibraltar is far to fragile, she cant do dot so you need to shoot all the time and then the BBoys have a field day, you are far to clunky to evade shells at mid range for long and smoke runs out quite fast so she tends to eat devastating damage more often then not… Dont get me wrong she can perform BUT the amount of effort involved is pointless as there are lots of cruisers that deliver same damage numbers with much less of a chore…

 

Oh and yes I have all RB ships ofc

[Spartan_Renegade]

Ohio,  it's tanky and guns get better as you close in. Its agility lets you get around flanks easily and it's an effective BB killer as Monty is at cruiser killing. 

[Verblonde]

6 hours ago, ________________Infinity said:

Current DD's except for maybe Paolo aren't very interesting to me.

I might suggest looking again at Vampire II: she really is very good, as well as being fun. The only real snag is that there's no silver line to pinch a captain from (unless you already have one kicking around on Perth, say)...

 

If you actually don't like DDs full-stop, please feel free to ignore.

[BLUB__BLUB]

4 hours ago, ________________Infinity said:

Seeing alot of votes for Ohio. But it being good for porple stats. Kinda becomes invalid if you look at mine

I can't count how many underscore is in your tag, so not stat-check performed, but well. 

If it is any help: I have Ohio, quite satisfied with it. But to me it is also a replacement Montana since I constantly regrind that line.

And that means I can use it in CB (if needed), also it has nice credit income, and so on. I'd not call it spectacular. 

But it is good, and IMO slightly better than Montana. To me, it is useful (even if I play mostly Colombo in CB).

 

BUT... never play DDs, still got the Paolo Yolo and yes it is hilarious, even if you do not play DDs.

And that means, I am a total potato, AND have no experience with DDs... but still liking it. A LOT!

I have no regrets getting that one, as I already have plenty T10 BBs anyway. 

[ZeuSueZ1337]

At least wait for a few honest Sevastopol reviews.

 

Can't recommend Druid and/or Vampire II high enough.

Pablo yol0 are hella fun.

Slava, Ohio & Gibraltar I don't have.

 

Siegfried? Until they bring back "fire prevention" for (heavy) cruisers shes a pretty port-queen, remembering her good ol' glory days.....  :-(

 

6 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

"I would pass on the Ohio for the time being.

 

These days you can't play T10 without running into the Schlieffen, and that thing dumpsters the Ohio in a brawl:

- fast dmgcon vs fast heal, let's say that's a tie

- Schlieffen is way stealthier, so she can dictate the terms

- Schlieffen is way faster, so she can force the fight

- Schlieffen has torps

- the Schlieffen's 150s pen the Ohio's deck (38 mm), and her 105 will pen her extremities (32 mm) with IFHE, which many Schlieffens take

- on the contrary, the Ohio can only pen the Schlieffen's superstructure with her secondaries

 

The Ohio may be better at range, but her poor ballistics still leave her behind the Montana and others as a sniper, imho."

 

As a DD-main this makes sense, having seen bunch's of Schlieffen lately especially in ranked, but haven't thought of it before now - pro/con-wise.

If memory serves me well wasn't one of the key selling points for the Ohio its BrAwLiNg capability?

A that's so/so mitigated by a tech-tree boat? Yieks!

[Miscommunication_dept]

I really like Gibraltar but I don’t think it’s really a good ship. 
I dont recommend it but I don’t regret buying it.

[Dorian_Warwick]

I have a question that might not fit here... What happens with the exp the ships already have? The in game info says nothing about that.

[CV_SUB_Report_Blacklist]

i regret the moment i spent 59,000 points on Gibraltar ... bad concealment with more bad armor ....

 

i wish i got the choice to sell if for even half the RB points ...

[arttuperkunas]

Paolo is a bit trash, I don't recommend it if you want to be sweaty at T9. I don't even recommend it if you want to have fun at T9, because if you end up on a flank stuffed with better concealment DDs, radar and hydro, you're basically fully dependent on other players (i.e. real DDs) to do your spotting for you while you act as a mediocre gunboat, kind of like a budget Elbing.

 

Very very inconsistent ship. In my books, being very strong situationally while being very meh most of the time isn't a particularly good trait in a ship.

 

[Itwastuesday]

30 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

Paolo is a bit trash, I don't recommend it if you want to be sweaty at T9. I don't even recommend it if you want to have fun at T9, because if you end up on a flank stuffed with better concealment DDs, radar and hydro, you're basically fully dependent on other players (i.e. real DDs) to do your spotting for you while you act as a mediocre gunboat, kind of like a budget Elbing.

 

Very very inconsistent ship. In my books, being very strong situationally while being very meh most of the time isn't a particularly good trait in a ship.

 

Yeah. I regret getting it so much. The dream : yolo stuff with torps and acquire fun. The reality : everything counters you, including stupid ever-present kriegsmarine battleships. 

[tocqueville8]

1 hour ago, ZeuSueZ1337 said:

As a DD-main this makes sense, having seen bunch's of Schlieffen lately especially in ranked, but haven't thought of it before now - pro/con-wise.

If memory serves me well wasn't one of the key selling points for the Ohio its BrAwLiNg capability?

A that's so/so mitigated by a tech-tree boat? Yieks!

 

I've had some nice games in Ranked in the Ohio where I spammed HE at bow-in targets, to complement the 9% secondary fire chance. I even got some Witherers out of it.

And yes the fast turret traverse helps during brawls, say if you push a cap and find yourself with enemies all around you.

 

But she's just outclassed by the Schlieffen in that role. The Schlieffen is a lot more brain-dead, potato-proof or whatever you want to call it.

The DPM from the secondaries is insane, and it deals a lot of direct damage.

She has 1.4 km concealment over the Ohio, and 6 (yes, SIX) knots in speed. Unlike the Georgia, the Ohio can't run away from a losing brawl, but the Schlieffen can engage at her leisure.

And she's got hydro.

And 16 (!) torps will hit someone sometimes. And she can stealth-torp (13+ km), or at least she has waaaay more time to drop them in case they get disabled, unlike a Pommern or a Hindenburg.

And she can almost stealth-secondary: with the flag, the window is less than 100 meters.

 

Again, the Ohio is a good brawler (fast, heals, high fire chance, good traverse...), but the Schlieffen is just stupid. Essentially, she melts everything around her, and you can't really kite her due to her concealment.

 

Maybe it's because they were going to sell her at an auction...

[tocqueville8]

1 hour ago, Dorian_Warwick said:

I have a question that might not fit here... What happens with the exp the ships already have? The in game info says nothing about that.

 

What ships, the ones you reset in the tech tree?

If so, the XP goes to the Tier 1 of that nation: my Hashidate has 4M ship xp on her 

[tocqueville8]

6 hours ago, ________________Infinity said:

Seeing alot of votes for Ohio. But it being good for porple stats. Kinda becomes invalid if you look at mine

 

9 hours ago, ________________Infinity said:

I play most bbs with range build, but am no strange to over extending. Just to be a [edited] to a guy on the otherside of the map.

 

Then I'd give you the same advice I gave another...below-average forumite, recently: get the Slava.

 

She's got a straightforward sniping playstyle, probably very relaxing too (I don't have one myself, yet), and she's one of the few BBs you won't be yelled at for playing at the back.

You won't be carrying games in the Slava, but that doesn't seem to be your focus, anyway. Nothing wrong with that 

At least you'll be having more fun than if you tried those catapults on the Ohio.