T5 brawls - longboat is loooooong

[arttuperkunas]

@Prophecy82

 

[Takethatyoubeast]

7 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

@Prophecy82

 

Have they found their niche maybe 

 

[Miscommunication_dept]

|I took it out once also.

It's guns are pretty nice as long as you don't turn the ship!

Citadels most cruiser at this tier also.

 

I would play more but the queue is so long. about 6 minutes at peak times!

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 hours ago, gopher31 said:

|I took it out once also.

It's guns are pretty nice as long as you don't turn the ship!

Citadels most cruiser at this tier also.

 

I would play more but the queue is so long. about 6 minutes at peak times!

 

It takes 6 minutes for the Okhotniks to reach battle.

[koliber_1984]

gunboat or torpboat build?

[arttuperkunas]

24 minutes ago, koliber_1984 said:

gunboat or torpboat build?

I run normal DD build (PM-LS-SE-CE), and on top of that, AFT, RPF, turret rotation. Dispersion mod in slot 3. AR would be nice, but I would have to give something up for that. The torps really should not be specced into, they do their job for what they're worth, but they are still 4,5 km suicide torps when push comes to shove. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just now, arttuperkunas said:

I run normal DD build (PM-LS-SE-CE), and on top of that, AFT, RPF, turret rotation. Dispersion mod in slot 3. AR would be nice, but I would have to give something up for that. The torps really should not be specced into, they do their job for what they're worth, but they are still 4,5 km suicide torps when push comes to shove. 

 

Yes, Okhotnik is kind of vulnerable when showing broadside. Or, perhaps longside is a better term in this case...

[arttuperkunas]

Just now, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Yes, Okhotnik is kind of vulnerable when showing broadside. Or, perhaps longside is a better term in this case...

And it needs to show broadside in order to use either its torps or most of its guns. It's not a super complicated ship, but managing incoming damage vs damage output is kind of the thing. That, and trying to dodge torpedoes in a ship that has a bigger turning circle than almost all BBs at its tier.

[koliber_1984]

I will try this tomorrow, today I won only 1 battle, lost 5. Even ranked went terrible today...

[N00Boo7]

Agincourt is working for me, secondary build ofc.

[arttuperkunas]

13 hours ago, Takethatyoubeast said:

Have they found their niche maybe 

 

Ngl, Okhotnik is my second most played ship of all time :).

 

Whenever new players were starting the game I would get to play my viking longboat with them. Besides, we used to start our Wows day with my friend by going up the tiers from T5, so every time you get a victory, you go up a tier. And I would almost always pick the Okhotnik. It's a hilarious boat, and the one thing it does really well is club kamikazes. Always get a certain spiteful joy from taking out a Gremyaschy or Kami*.

 

* I'm mature enough to admit that at least 50% of that is jealousy that I never got the chance to buy them :P

[Procrastes]

4 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

Ngl, Okhotnik is my second most played ship of all time :).

 

Whenever new players were starting the game I would get to play my viking longboat with them. Besides, we used to start our Wows day with my friend by going up the tiers from T5, so every time you get a victory, you go up a tier. And I would almost always pick the Okhotnik. It's a hilarious boat, and the one thing it does really well is club kamikazes. Always get a certain spiteful joy from taking out a Gremyaschy or Kami*.

 

* I'm mature enough to admit that at least 50% of that is jealousy that I never got the chance to buy them :P

What, exactly, is the best way to use the Okhotnik to club a Gremyashchy or a Kamikaze?

I'm asking for a friend.

[Furiousacerimmer]

Yep, I got reamed in my Okhotnik as the Kamikaze kept me spotted while his mates pummelled me.

[arttuperkunas]

1 hour ago, Procrastes said:

What, exactly, is the best way to use the Okhotnik to club a Gremyashchy or a Kamikaze?

I'm asking for a friend.

Gremy is actually a much bigger threat to you than the Kamikaze, because he has at least equal gunpower and a much, much better hull than you. That said, you keep him spotted due to your superior concealment and try and get your teammates to shoot him (so just classic DD play).

 

Against a Kamikaze - once you're detected by him, you charge straight towards him using RPF (or general deduction if you have no RPF), fire off 12 torps in his line of advance, and pummel him to bits with your firepower. Kamikaze has only 300 meters better concealment than you, so you will be able to cross that gap due to render delay before he can angle away. Once you spot the Kami, you should be able to pulverize him with massively superior firepower and bigger HP pool. If (when) he smokes up like a little b1tch, you drive up to his smoke and fire off another 12 torps. I pretty much never lose duels to Kamikazes :).

[Karasu_Browarszky]

To this day I don't why they put the Okhotnik on tier 5. This is outrageously anachronistic, or rather the ship is anachronistic if you think in terms of the other DD's that exist on tier 5. I'm not complaining there is a WW1 design on tier 5, because it allows you to do missions. I'd love to see tier 5 made WW1, or failing that alternatively have missions doable on all tiers.

[Procrastes]

1 hour ago, arttuperkunas said:

Against a Kamikaze - once you're detected by him, you charge straight towards him using RPF (or general deduction if you have no RPF), fire off 12 torps in his line of advance, and pummel him to bits with your firepower. Kamikaze has only 300 meters better concealment than you, so you will be able to cross that gap due to render delay before he can angle away. Once you spot the Kami, you should be able to pulverize him with massively superior firepower and bigger HP pool. If (when) he smokes up like a little b1tch, you drive up to his smoke and fire off another 12 torps. I pretty much never lose duels to Kamikazes :).

They should make a movie out of this and show it every Christmas. 

[arttuperkunas]

1 hour ago, Procrastes said:

They should make a movie out of this and show it every Christmas. 

The man, the legend, the longboat

[Procrastes]

1 hour ago, arttuperkunas said:

The man, the legend, the longboat

They should design a "Viking Longship" camo for the Okhotnik, complete with oars, shields, a checkered sail* and a [beep]-ed up dragonhead. The whole shebang. I'd buy it faster than you could say, "Lindisfarne"!

 

 

* I believe historical vikings had checkered sails rather than the striped ones you usually see in popular fiction these days. But hey, I'm not going to be picky here - I'll take a striped sail as well, if one is offered!

[bobtherterrible]

1 minute ago, Procrastes said:

They should design a "Viking Longship" camo for the Okhotnik, complete with oars, shields, a checkered sail* and a [beep]-ed up dragonhead. The whole shebang. I'd buy it faster than you could say, "Lindisfarne"!

 

 

* I believe historical vikings had checkered sails rather than the stripes one usually sees in popular fiction these days. But hey, I'm not going to be picky here - I'll take a striped sail as well, if one is offered!

+1 (though I'd likely have to save up the research points/coal/community points for it)

 

 

[ThePoisonDwarf]

1 hour ago, Procrastes said:

They should design a "Viking Longship" camo for the Okhotnik, complete with oars, shields, a checkered sail* and a [beep]-ed up dragonhead. The whole shebang. I'd buy it faster than you could say, "Lindisfarne"!

 

 

* I believe historical vikings had checkered sails rather than the stripes one usually sees in popular fiction these days. But hey, I'm not going to be picky here - I'll take a striped sail as well, if one is offered!

And captain Ragnar Lodbrok for 10k gold. 

[Procrastes]

9 minutes ago, ThePoisonDwarf said:

And captain Ragnar Lodbrok for 10k gold. 

And Wargaming wouldn't even have to strike a deal with Netflix, because it's been over a thousand years since Ragnar Lodbrok was (allegedly) up and about and he has (presumably) no living descendants who can claim exclusive rights to his estate! (Or if he has, they are most probably spread all over the British Isles and can't be expected to form up and present a joint case.)

[ThePoisonDwarf]

19 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

And Wargaming wouldn't even have to strike a deal with Netflix, because it's been over a thousand years since Ragnar Lodbrok was (allegedly) up and about and he has (presumably) no living descendants who can claim exclusive rights to his estate! (Or if he has, they are most probably spread all over the British Isles and can't be expected to form up and present a joint case.)

Depends if they use actor face or just some general portrait. The latter is free but the actor not. Anyways, if this happens it means they read forums and I want % from sales - can be paid in doubloons ;)

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 hour ago, Procrastes said:

They should design a "Viking Longship" camo for the Okhotnik, complete with oars, shields, a checkered sail* and a [beep]-ed up dragonhead. The whole shebang. I'd buy it faster than you could say, "Lindisfarne"!

 

 

* I believe historical vikings had checkered sails rather than the striped ones you usually see in popular fiction these days. But hey, I'm not going to be picky here - I'll take a striped sail as well, if one is offered!

 

Technically speaking, it would be a 'Varangian' camo. 

[bobtherterrible]

 

 

lool gotta love t5 cruisers

[Procrastes]

1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Technically speaking, it would be a 'Varangian' camo. 

Okay, I'll bite. 

 

The word "varangi" is an anglification of the Greek word "varangoi", which in turn comes from the word "væringr" in Old Norse, that was - in variations - the spoken language throughout the Nordic countries a thousand years ago. The word "væringr" stems in turn from "vár", which means "oath". More specifically, "væringr" was the commonly used designation for those warriors who travelled from what is now Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Iceland all the way to Bysans - today's Istanbul, which the vikings called Miklagård - where they took service with, and swore an oath of fealty to, the Emperor of Eastern Rome. They most commonly served as his bodyguards, a task for which they were well suited since they were strong warriors and hard to bribe (because they were entirely dependent on the Emperor's good will, and they also typically didn't speak the local language very well).

The term "viking" is more contentious. In Old Norse it could designate an activity, "víking", or someone who performed said activity, "víkingr". Exactly what this activity was has been - and is still - the subject of intense debate, with no clear consensus among linguists and historians. I have read old sagas where the term is used to designate travel by longship, and those who travelled by longship; not necessarily with the explicit intent to commit acts of pillage and plunder (unless such an occasion should happen to present itself, of course).

 

I will admit, I am from Sweden. And I have been reading the ancient Nordic myths and sagas, as well as studying the history of that time, on and off on my spare time for the past thirty or forty years. This does not necessarily make me an expert, but I can throw up a wall of text or two if I feel so inclined...!