Datz68 Players 161 posts 8,251 battles Report post #1 Posted January 21, 2022 At the beginning we had DDs with guns, torps and smoke like IJN, US, German. Then DDs without smoke appeared - french one but with guns and torps. Next unigue DD Friesland without torps arrived but it had decent guns and smoke. Recently we have Ragnar which is a DD without torps and smoke, only with good guns. What will be next step? DD with torps only? Or DD with nothing? Rockets? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hirohito Players 1,717 posts 6,192 battles Report post #2 Posted January 21, 2022 I think we're past the point of general evolutionary trends now. Looking at the latest boats released in general, it seems to be more and more about gimmicks or niches rather than broad evolutionary trends. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #3 Posted January 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, Admirality said: At the beginning we had DDs with guns, torps and smoke like IJN, US, German. Then DDs without smoke appeared - french one but with guns and torps. Next unigue DD Friesland without torps arrived but it had decent guns and smoke. Recently we have Ragnar which is a DD without torps and smoke, only with good guns. What will be next step? DD with torps only? Or DD with nothing? Rockets? DD with only mines, depth charges and AA guns is my bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #4 Posted January 21, 2022 I am guessing guided missiles 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Funny_Farmer Players 197 posts 3,864 battles Report post #5 Posted January 21, 2022 Only smoke and extra loud horn 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #6 Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Admirality said: At the beginning we had DDs with guns, torps and smoke like IJN, US, German. Then DDs without smoke appeared - french one but with guns and torps. Next unigue DD Friesland without torps arrived but it had decent guns and smoke. Recently we have Ragnar which is a DD without torps and smoke, only with good guns. What will be next step? DD with torps only? Or DD with nothing? Rockets? next is dd with SAP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[88TH] Siagor Players 1,336 posts Report post #7 Posted January 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said: DD with only mines, depth charges and AA guns is my bet. I'd bet on something like this too. Anti-submarine specialists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #8 Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Admirality said: What will be next step? DD with torps only? We call them “submarines” 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #9 Posted January 21, 2022 Either way we still don't have enough DD's to battle the BB scourge. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] DDG_121 Players 791 posts 10,936 battles Report post #10 Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Camperdown said: I am guessing guided missiles The F.Sherman will possibly be the first one to use maybe not guided but gyro torps which turn to selected bearing after launch. Otherwise it's torps seem very useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THIR] Stormhawk_V Players 1,034 posts 4,895 battles Report post #11 Posted January 21, 2022 The DDs we got from 2019 onwards are a direct result of the CV rework and the degradation of concealment it brought. Create a problem, sell a solution... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBHH] Trench4nt Players 2,133 posts Report post #12 Posted January 21, 2022 Vor 2 Stunden, Admirality sagte: At the beginning we had DDs with guns, torps and smoke like IJN, US, German. Then DDs without smoke appeared - french one but with guns and torps. Next unigue DD Friesland without torps arrived but it had decent guns and smoke. Recently we have Ragnar which is a DD without torps and smoke, only with good guns. What will be next step? DD with torps only? Or DD with nothing? Rockets? No. https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/252 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #13 Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said: next is dd with SAP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14 Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Siagor said: I'd bet on something like this too. Anti-submarine specialists. UK destroyers exist for quite some time by now 12 minutes ago, Zimbiye said: The F.Sherman will possibly be the first one to use maybe not guided but gyro torps which turn to selected bearing after launch. Otherwise it's torps seem very useless. Smaland have guided missiles modeled in her, also WG still have Kildin class DD laying around for "guided missile destroyer only" gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #15 Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Admirality said: At the beginning we had DDs with guns, torps and smoke like IJN, US, German. Then DDs without smoke appeared - french one but with guns and torps. Next unigue DD Friesland without torps arrived but it had decent guns and smoke. Recently we have Ragnar which is a DD without torps and smoke, only with good guns. What will be next step? DD with torps only? Or DD with nothing? Rockets? Smaller DDs, bigger DDs.. some DDs are already at the level they resemble light cruisers in firepower. same with cruisers and BBs. I'd say to a large extent the distinction between the 3 ship types are blurring out at times. Only separated by very few spesific traits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #16 Posted January 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Panocek said: UK destroyers exist for quite some time by now Smaland have guided missiles modeled in her, also WG still have Kildin class DD laying around for "guided missile destroyer only" gimmick. We already have anti submarine specialists, they’re called battleships. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #17 Posted January 21, 2022 32 minutes ago, Panocek said: UK destroyers exist for quite some time by now I thought that was going to be the role of Commonwealth DDs. UK designs (mostly) so WG don't have to make too many new models, just add the option to lose a gun or set of torp tubes for a forward firing ASW mortar. (It won't happen, though. The last thing WG is ever going to do is to bring out an effective counter to their new pet class. We must suffer). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #18 Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Trench4nt said: No. https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/252 DD's with stylish interiors? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #19 Posted January 22, 2022 Next should be DD without smoke or AA so they get griefed but with the most maximum anti-dd gun power and asashio torps so they can grief too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowTieMcBoat Players 17 posts 2,457 battles Report post #20 Posted January 22, 2022 20 hours ago, Hirohito said: I think we're past the point of general evolutionary trends now. Looking at the latest boats released in general, it seems to be more and more about gimmicks or niches rather than broad evolutionary trends. Agreed, this game has long since took the turn from the 'general evolutionary trend' path on to a path littered with horse dung tbh. Some ships are just ridiculous, and balance is something only being checked by the accountants at the end of the fiscal year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #21 Posted January 22, 2022 19 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said: Either way we still don't have enough DD's to battle the BB scourge. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEGIO] tomkrist Players 147 posts 12,355 battles Report post #22 Posted January 22, 2022 I think the best idea is just to remove the dd's. Had a game yesterday with only battleships and cruiser. Oh boy, what a feeling:) I could go in a cap supported by ca and we won:) A tight fight from both side and lasted 20 minutes. How normal is that? Today the matches ends after 5-10 minutes where one team is alot stronger than other. So next match, 4 destroyers both side. We lost all of ours, resulting in a losses of course. DD has way to much impact on a game and outcome if there is a win or loss. You got a bad dd? Well...that has alot more impact on a game if you compare it to a loss of ca or bb. Give theme lesser of everything or reduce a max limit to only 1 or max 2. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #23 Posted January 22, 2022 21 hours ago, Camperdown said: I am guessing guided missiles It will be a nice gimmick for the new Russian DD line based on post-WW2 designs. For some reason, though, I'm not overly worried about any balance issues; at least as long as WG strives to maintain historical accuracy. See the video below from glorious Russian annexation of Crimea (the good part comes 30 seconds into the clip): Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estaca_de_Bares Players 1,534 posts 25,837 battles Report post #24 Posted January 22, 2022 19 hours ago, Trench4nt said: https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/252 Oh, so that's the devblog's post @StatsBloke referred me to when I encountered him (and another player) testing Adriatico the other day. Well, my guess at the start of the battle of a Paolo Emilio-esque line was right on the money at the very least regarding the smoke. It seems that SAP and smoke exhaust are going to be the distinctive traits for the whole Italian tech tree (will the CVs have them too, I wonder?), premiums notwithstanding. 21 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said: Either way we still don't have enough DD's to battle the BB scourge. Laughs aside, MM is all over the place as of late: plenty of battles with lone to no DDs, few to lone CAs, quite asymmetric rosters due to divisions even in 12 vs. 12 a couple of times (in one instance my team had both one DD and one BB more than the reds)... What doesn't change is the overabundance of battleships: 4 or more usually 5 per team, although I've also had a match that broke the soft limit (12 BBs in total) in the last week. Salute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #25 Posted January 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, Procrastes said: For some reason, though, I'm not overly worried about any balance issues; at least as long as WG strives to maintain historical accuracy. This sounds very much like famous last words. ' as long as WG strives to maintain historical accuracy'. Such as WWII subs making 30 knots underwater firing homing torpedoes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
