T5 brawls: what ships to play?

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On Monday we start T5 brawls. What ships do you intend to use?

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

"Kamikaze R"

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

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Just now, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

"Kamikaze R"

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Quelle surprise 

[Procrastes]

• Destroyer: One of the Kamikaze sisters, or their country cousin Gremyashchy.
• Battleship: The Guilio Cesare.
• Cruiser: Also the Giulio Cesare.

[arttuperkunas]

Okhotnik. To club all those kamikazes :) 

[bobtherterrible]

Could you please play something with a slow reload, poor concealment and weak armour? Ideally no hydro or torps fitted.

 

I've heard the Celebs is the ship to use this year.

 

Many thanks

[Procrastes]

1 minute ago, bobtherterrible said:

Could you please play something with a slow reload, poor concealment and weak armour? Ideally no hydro or torps fitted.

 

Many thanks

I dunno... how about the Viribus Unitis? Although she's got pretty decent armour.

The Conte di Cavour, perhaps?

[lup3s]

depends

 

for division :

T-22

+ Gremyashchy

+ Emerald / Furutaka / Velikiy

 

for solo :

Gremy or Furutaka

[Yedwy]

Derflingger with sec build and Gremyashy 

[Hirohito]

Acasta, Podvoisky, Minekaze, maybe Jaguar.
Oklahoma until I run into competent players, then that one's off the table.

[lup3s]

3 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Derflingger with sec build and Gremyashy 

 

imo there are better BBs at T5 for secondary build (though both are Premium)

[Yedwy]

6 minutes ago, lup3s said:

imo there are better BBs at T5 for secondary build (though both are Premium)

Well I do have GC as well now that I think of it... 

[lup3s]

1 minute ago, Yedwy said:

Well I do have GC as well now that I think of it... 

 

I was thinking of the Oklahoma & Agincourt

 

I also think that ships that are strong in 12v12 Randoms, aren't (per se) strong in 3v3 Brawls - and vice versa, you can have a ship that's not that strong in 12v12 Randoms, but shines in 3v3 Brawls

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

11 minutes ago, lup3s said:

 

imo there are better BBs at T5 for secondary build (though both are Premium)

 

According to "Ship Tool" the new "Agincourt" has 2x the secondaries DPM than closest persuer...

 

 

 

https://shiptool.st/filter

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Verblonde]

Well, some sort of Kami is the obvious choice (presumably followed by vigorous scrubbing of self with a wire brush + Dettol), although it might be time for one of my occasional attempts to not be the only player who can't make Gremy work...

[Yedwy]

6 minutes ago, lup3s said:

I was thinking of the Oklahoma & Agincourt

I know, dont have them handy though...

[Hirohito]

1 minute ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

According to "Ship Tool" the new "Agincourt" has 2x the secondaries DPM than closest persuer...

 

 

 

https://shiptool.st/filter

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

To be fair, the shell flight time seems to be the worst of the bunch.
That being said, it also has by far the best dispersion and rate of fire, and 6,5s isnt that easy to dodge.
Looks broken for this brawl, indeed.

[tocqueville8]

By an amazing coincidence, the Agincourt is in the shop...

[Hirohito]

Just now, tocqueville8 said:

By an amazing coincidence, the Agincourt is in the shop...

Usually not a fan of these conspiracy theories, but this one seems quite spot on...
WG surely knows that secondary ships are by far the most played in each Brawl, this isnt just a fluke.

[Verblonde]

4 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Usually not a fan of these conspiracy theories, but this one seems quite spot on...
WG surely knows that secondary ships are by far the most played in each Brawl, this isnt just a fluke.

It's not the first time: I seem to recall Pommern being released just around the right time for a brawl that really rewarded brawling T9 BBs with torps...

[lup3s]

31 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

To be fair, the shell flight time seems to be the worst of the bunch.
That being said, it also has by far the best dispersion and rate of fire, and 6,5s isnt that easy to dodge.
Looks broken for this brawl, indeed.

 

not entirely sure how the shell flight time is calculated - the big ones (152mm secondaries) have a 914 m/s (initial) shell velocity and the small ones 823 m/s - idk if this results in 3.6s shell flight time difference, but it seems kind of weird imo 

 

e.g. the (initial) shell velocity for Olkahoma's secondaries is 657 m/s and 960 m/s - yet at the same distance this only results in 1.6s shell flight time difference ?

I have questions

[MaxGct]

Mikoyan 

[Hirohito]

7 minutes ago, lup3s said:

 

not entirely sure how the shell flight time is calculated - the big ones (152mm secondaries) have a 914 m/s (initial) shell velocity and the small ones 823 m/s - idk if this results in 3.6s shell flight time difference, but it seems kind of weird imo 

Probably high air drag and/or low shell weight.
Dunno, WG really just makes things up for balance purposes anyway.

Like Halland having better AA than a Montana, even though the latter has about 10-20 times (or so) as many AA guns mounted.

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Whatever the most over powered T5 DD is.... what is the most over powered T5 DD btw?

[lup3s]

2 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Probably high air drag and/or low shell weight.
Dunno, WG really just makes things up for balance purposes anyway.

Like Halland having better AA than a Montana, even though the latter has about 10-20 times (or so) as many AA guns mounted.

 

Probably this, but it doesn't (really) explain to me why the shell flight time difference for the Oklahoma is that much lower, while the initial shell velocity difference is so much higher

 

I'm sorry, I have a thing with numbers - especially if they don't (seem to) add up