Make ranked based on personal performance not based on random monkeys

[Panzer_Guido]

-increase value of spotting, capping, contesting etc. 

 

-decrease value of farming damage

 

-no stars lost for anybody when your backcamping Satsuma is still full at the end of the match or your 46% Bourgogne thinks suiciding is gonna work this time finally. 

 

[_HomTanks_]

But it’s wg who wants to entertain random monkeys in a noob fest and call it ranked with the hopes of selling more prems. Whatcha gonna do about it?

[V0L0VO]

last ranked season was a total  fail... adding superships made  some games mission imposible..and now..they are everywhere..coop, random..everywhere.. to ruin everyone time.. well done..again...

[Takethatyoubeast]

1 hour ago, Panzer_Guido said:

-increase value of spotting, capping, contesting etc. 

 

-decrease value of farming damage

 

-no stars lost for anybody when your backcamping Satsuma is still full at the end of the match or your 46% Bourgogne thinks suiciding is gonna work this time finally. 

 

As long as they have the “keep your star” feature people will sit back and if they win then they get a star, if their team lose but they farm the most damage they don’t lose anything

 

I had a total wash out ranked game where as soon as our Yamato and Ohio arrived in C cap they spent the rest of the game reversing and farming 

 

Had they had nothing to lose by pushing and everything to gain, who knows 

 

Ranked is just a total mess now

 

Had a 38% WR Elbing in 2 consecutive matches who rushed the cap in both games and died first in both games - how can you ever expect to win with team mates like that 

[Hirohito]

Just make it possible to go down a league, and not get hard locked to a higher league when your hundreds of battles spam finally pays off.
The league system will sort itself then eventually, as the 46% shimas wont be able to maintain their silver/gold league indefinitely like they can now.
Bronze league should be for 46% potatoes that fail to climb up, that is fine.

[Takethatyoubeast]

2 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Just make it possible to go down a league, and not get hard locked to a higher league when your hundreds of battles spam finally pays off.
The league system will sort itself then eventually, as the 46% shimas wont be able to maintain their silver/gold league indefinitely.
Bronze league should be for 46% potatoes, that is fine.

The biggest issue I have with current ranked is unless you are prepared to play a lot of games, you will struggle to get out of Bronze league 

 

I don’t find ranked interesting enough to do that - once I’ve got the steel for the wins this time I’m done 

[Hirohito]

1 hour ago, Takethatyoubeast said:

The biggest issue I have with current ranked is unless you are prepared to play a lot of games, you will struggle to get out of Bronze league

Absolutely not.
If you're good enough, you will get out of Bronze rather easily as the players are just that bad there.

I'm not having a go at you here, but your stats show that you are below average in ranked, so Bronze league seems to be a good fit and works as the system should be working.

Personally I just farm Silver atm, its easy enough to maintain a high WR there as well.
What does annoys me though is how volatile the teams can be.
While the team average hovers around 48-51% WR on average, individual players rate from 42% potatoes to 57% players.
The 42% (heck, even 47%) players just shouldnt be playing in Silver, but because they are locked to Silver they will never drop back to where they belong - Bronze.
Some persistent potatoes that spam games even make it into Gold with enough luck, ruining the quality of play there as well as they get hard stuck in a league they really shouldnt be playing in.

[Takethatyoubeast]

36 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Absolutely not.
If you're good enough, you will get out of Bronze rather easily as the players are just that bad there.

I'm not having a go at you here, but your stats show that you are below average in ranked, so Bronze league seems to be a good fit and works as the system should be working.

Personally I just farm Silver atm, its easy enough to maintain a high WR there as well.
What does annoys me though is how volatile the teams can be.
While the team average hovers around 48-51% WR on average, individual players rate from 42% potatoes to 57% players.
The 42% (heck, even 47%) players just shouldnt be playing in Silver, but because they are locked to Silver they will never drop back to where they belong - Bronze.
Some persistent potatoes that spam games even make it into Gold with enough luck, ruining the quality of play there as well as they get hard stuck in a league they really shouldnt be playing in.

Just out of interest, which ships are you playing in ranked ?

 

 

[Hirohito]

2 minutes ago, Takethatyoubeast said:

Just out of interest, which ships are you playing in ranked ?

 

 

If T10, Småland and Daring.
Now I get what people will say about Småland, but my WR in Daring is actually higher than Småland (66 vs 71%).
Playing a high impact ship (DD hunter in my case) does wonders for the WR, essentially.

[Gnirf]

45 minutes ago, Hirohito said:

Absolutely not.
If you're good enough, you will get out of Bronze rather easily as the players are just that bad there.

I'm not having a go at you here, but your stats show that you are below average in ranked, so Bronze league seems to be a good fit and works as the system should be working.

Well many players stay in ranked bronze because you play for the 9 wins/season and steel rather than to rank out so there are both good and bad players there

[lameoll]

9 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

Well many players stay in ranked bronze because you play for the 9 wins/season and steel rather than to rank out so there are both good and bad players there

with everything being tier 10 and u instantly be able to go to Gold ranked thats not really the case anymore most ppl would just advance now for max steel rewards.

 

no point to stay in lower tiers because everything is tier 10 and you get more steel advancing instantly now.

ofc theres always the ppl that cant play that mutch with some skill ofc  But your out of bronze in no time usualy

 

[Takethatyoubeast]

8 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

Well many players stay in ranked bronze because you play for the 9 wins/season and steel rather than to rank out so there are both good and bad players there

Agreed

 

I’ve had some chat in game with players who are good enough to rank out but do exactly the above 

 

 

[Hirohito]

2 minutes ago, lameoll said:

ofc theres always the ppl that cant play that mutch with some skill ofc  But your out of bronze in no time usualy

I do that, farm silver that is.
Gold would just take me too much time to rank out of with the limited amount of games I can put in every week.
Silver (even Bronze) is a good way to farm income for almost no effort, especially Bronze.

[SkollUlfr]

"ranked" is a "raid event". its function is not to foster competitive play ,as that is not possible in wows.

it is there to drive up player engagement with an event that provides a time gated resource to grind.

 

the obvious goal with ranked is to balance the distribution of steel as a premium currency to give a feeling of exclusivity.

[Cippalippus]

Ranked with 5 players should be more enjoyable, because bad players will not be able to be carried that easily. I look forward to the next ranked season.

[arttuperkunas]

14 hours ago, Panzer_Guido said:

-increase value of spotting, capping, contesting etc. 

 

-decrease value of farming damage

 

-no stars lost for anybody when your backcamping Satsuma is still full at the end of the match or your 46% Bourgogne thinks suiciding is gonna work this time finally. 

 

What annoys me more than losing games due to potatoes is winning games for ppl who dont deserve it. It grinds my gears to carry afks, bots or griefers towards higher leagues or steel.

[Camperdown]

28 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

What annoys me more than losing games due to potatoes is winning games for ppl who dont deserve it. It grinds my gears to carry afks, bots or griefers towards higher leagues or steel.

I second that.

[Camperdown]

11 hours ago, Hirohito said:

I do that, farm silver that is.
Gold would just take me too much time to rank out of with the limited amount of games I can put in every week.
Silver (even Bronze) is a good way to farm income for almost no effort, especially Bronze.

I tried to get to gold twice this season, but simply could not do that with a reasonable effort. Got stuck in qualifications and on Wednesday evening it was simply horrible, so I let it go.

[SodaBubbles]

11 hours ago, Takethatyoubeast said:

Agreed

 

I’ve had some chat in game with players who are good enough to rank out but do exactly the above 

 

 

I have done exactly that. It's also a place I can grind base XP and other stuff for the Dockyard. I purposely didn't exit Silver league this time around for that reason. 

[Yedwy]

15 hours ago, WgPlsNerfColorado said:

But it’s wg who wants to entertain random monkeys in a noob fest and call it ranked with the hopes of selling more prems. Whatcha gonna do about it?

This

[arttuperkunas]

1 hour ago, SodaBubbles said:

I have done exactly that. It's also a place I can grind base XP and other stuff for the Dockyard. I purposely didn't exit Silver league this time around for that reason. 

Same. I was in gold league last season, and it just wasn't worth it. Even mix of good but toxic tryhards and complete potatoes who have afked/game spammed their way to gold.

 

That said, main problem really is that I'm good enough to play in gold (barely), but not good enough to carry or really have a big impact on those matches. Much more comfortable to play silver.

[Hugh_Ruka]

16 hours ago, Panzer_Guido said:

-increase value of spotting, capping, contesting etc. 

 

-decrease value of farming damage

 

-no stars lost for anybody when your backcamping Satsuma is still full at the end of the match or your 46% Bourgogne thinks suiciding is gonna work this time finally. 

 

and how would you implement THAT ? I mean at the start people would ask a BB to camp at the back so they don't lose a star ...

[fabatka]

Ranked is the new co-op...

[Captain_82]

7 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

What annoys me more than losing games due to potatoes is winning games for ppl who dont deserve it. It grinds my gears to carry afks, bots or griefers towards higher leagues or steel.

 

Well, I get your point but personally I disagree.

In fact I am more annoyed losing games due to potatoes than winning games for them.

Thats why I skip this Ranked season (Bronze still) again.

[Hirohito]

8 hours ago, arttuperkunas said:

What annoys me more than losing games due to potatoes is winning games for ppl who dont deserve it. It grinds my gears to carry afks, bots or griefers towards higher leagues or steel.

WG should really just let people drop down in leagues if they are that bad.
That way it wouldn't matter if you carried a sack of potatoes into a single win, because they'd mess it up in the future again.

Unlike now that is, where you can carry that 41% yolo/afk/J-line shima with 17900 hp into a higher league, where he keeps doing damage to whatever team unfortunate to get him with no way to drop back into Bronze where he belongs.