Fractured Player Base

[Aethervoxx]

What do I mean by a 'fractured player base'?

 I mean one that is incapable of coherent & co-ordinated action.

Many talk about not spending money on WoWS product but how many actually do? WoWS (WG) relies on new & ignorant players to keep spending money irregardless of the quality of the product.

Some ask for participation in some independent player study & barely anyone in the forum even participates. I reference Little White Mouse study of T6 random battles (go look that up for yourself).

Some are only here to tell everyone else to 'git gud' or 'carry harder' & otherwise say it's all on the player but never on WoWS/WG/Wedgie 'arrangements'. ROFL & LOL. We all know who the  MEGA-TROLLS are here.

Of course, WoWS (WG) wants a fractured player base. In this way, WG can continue vacuuming money with little effective opposition. All we can say is, personally, we won't spend money anymore.

I wonder if this WoWS player base can be anything but 'fractured', inherently, incapable of united action &, certainly, not capable of altering the direction of WoWS sending itself into a cesspit.

Look at  the fractured mirror that is WoT & ask yourself if WoWS won't see (is seeing) the same cracks in it's mirror? IMO, the fractured mirrors are already on the wall (for everyone to gaze into).

Time for a new late 20th century/21st century motorized Naval Warfare Game via a crowd source that favours real historical combat as opposed to GARBAGE SANDBOX FANTASY EXCREMENT from WG.

 

 

 

 

 

[Ocsimano18]

How many of that crowd sourced initiatives get into the state of enjoyable game with a wide user base?

[Bear__Necessities]

2 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

We all know who the  MEGA-TROLLS are here.

You. 

[Cpt_Andre]

2 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

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I think there are serval factors;

 

Because of the different classes one is:

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Rock: Nerf Paper. Scissors is fine

This is why when there are changes (nerf or buffs) people certain classes are (loudly) moaning and others are (quietly) happy.

And there always one class that gets shafted and this is why in combined memory "WG never listen to feedback". 

 

Another point is that alot of oldtimers know the ship classes and their knowledge summed up every time a new ship line is introduced. Newcommers are overwhelmed by the selection of ships but cant taste the different flavors and thus fail to master them.

(I start playing when there were only 2 nations and 10 (?) branches. After some battles i found my path to enjoyment and mastery. With every addiontal branch i could determinate their playstyle and adapt to it. Newcomers are like kids in a candystore, lets try everything a bit...

But thats not the newcomers fault, its WG, 'cause their are no tutorials or restrictions for them

[Yedwy]

3 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

I mean one that is incapable of coherent & co-ordinated action.

 

Many talk about not spending money on WoWS product but how many actually do?

 

WoWS (WG) relies on new & ignorant players to keep spending money irregardless of the quality of the product.

 

Some ask for participation in some independent player study & barely anyone in the forum even participates. I reference Little White Mouse study of T6 random battles (go look that up for yourself).

 

All we can say is, personally, we won't spend money anymore.

As is the case in most aspects of life TBH...

 

That is something only WG and themselves know, however if we take up analogy you can be a smoker and still be able to advise others not to start the addiction?

 

WG is doing some other stuff as well m8, they are not living off the "ignorant noobs" as those hardly pay much if anything in this day and age, sure if they can rake in some doe from them fine but they are not the main source of income here...

 

Independent study? Sure if I have time and inclination to do so, making and uploading hundreds of screenshots is hardly worth my time esp if in the end it wont change anything as WG will hand you out as much silver and XP as they want and you can be happy with that or bugger off from their POV

 

Exactly, so the point of your post is what again?

[Shaka_D]

4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

What do I mean by a 'fractured player base'?

 I mean one that is incapable of coherent & co-ordinated action.

Many talk about not spending money on WoWS product but how many actually do? WoWS (WG) relies on new & ignorant players to keep spending money irregardless of the quality of the product.

Some ask for participation in some independent player study & barely anyone in the forum even participates. I reference Little White Mouse study of T6 random battles (go look that up for yourself).

Some are only here to tell everyone else to 'git gud' or 'carry harder' & otherwise say it's all on the player but never on WoWS/WG/Wedgie 'arrangements'. ROFL & LOL. We all know who the  MEGA-TROLLS are here.

Of course, WoWS (WG) wants a fractured player base. In this way, WG can continue vacuuming money with little effective opposition. All we can say is, personally, we won't spend money anymore.

I wonder if this WoWS player base can be anything but 'fractured', inherently, incapable of united action &, certainly, not capable of altering the direction of WoWS sending itself into a cesspit.

Look at  the fractured mirror that is WoT & ask yourself if WoWS won't see (is seeing) the same cracks in it's mirror? IMO, the fractured mirrors are already on the wall (for everyone to gaze into).

Time for a new late 20th century/21st century motorized Naval Warfare Game via a crowd source that favours real historical combat as opposed to GARBAGE SANDBOX FANTASY EXCREMENT from WG.

Of course the playerbase is fractured, starting with the fact we're the EU playerbase - different cultures. Then add different ages, life experiences, personalities, socia-economic factors, habits, preferences, etc. There will never be union (other than seemingly against subs if we're to regard the general consensus on the forums as representative).

 

There was also rumour once of WG infiltrating the forums with sock-puppets to muddy the waters to counter any negative sentiment toward them. Proven? Not sure exactly. But doesn't really matter anyways. The only agency people have against WG is to vote with their wallets and this will never happen when many haven't got the discipline to sustain this approach, or when most of the playerbase exists outside of the forum and don't really care.

 

It's all therefore becomes personal choice and at present, the only safe place to be is to stop caring about things so much - find your happy place in or out of the game. Set your limit and if it's breached, move on. What hurts though is if you've chosen to 'invest' a lot of money in the game and leaving the game becomes harder if you've built up your account over the years. In this I understand the frustration when players feel betrayed, but ultimately  - hopeless. Money spent on this game is nothing more than for temporary entertainment. It's not a tangible investment and will yield no real future returns, only loss. So, when this loss happens is only a matter of time for each of us. Just an opinion.

[Itwastuesday]

What unified action? If we stop spendig WG might think subs were a bad idea or that they didn't release subs fast enough. Nobody has so much as ofganized an address. 

 

And it's a video game. People don't manage to organize even against real stuff.

 

Just think about it. The only structured ways to tell wg what we think about subs have been organized by... Wg

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

The only players that WG care about are the players that pay or can be seduced into paying, and the only players that should have a say in things are those that you call ''mega-trolls'': people who actually know how the game works and how the meta develops. It is no use asking potatoes or Coop mains (not those who converted from Randoms to Coop) for any sensible opinions when it comes to competitive.

[Aethervoxx]

7 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said:

You. 

Take a close look in your mirror (&, ROFL & LOL, look what a butt ugly moth was caught so soon in the net .

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

10 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

What do I mean by a 'fractured player base'?

 I mean one that is incapable of coherent & co-ordinated action.

Many talk about not spending money on WoWS product but how many actually do? WoWS (WG) relies on new & ignorant players to keep spending money irregardless of the quality of the product.

Some ask for participation in some independent player study & barely anyone in the forum even participates. I reference Little White Mouse study of T6 random battles (go look that up for yourself).

Some are only here to tell everyone else to 'git gud' or 'carry harder' & otherwise say it's all on the player but never on WoWS/WG/Wedgie 'arrangements'. ROFL & LOL. We all know who the  MEGA-TROLLS are here.

Of course, WoWS (WG) wants a fractured player base. In this way, WG can continue vacuuming money with little effective opposition. All we can say is, personally, we won't spend money anymore.

I wonder if this WoWS player base can be anything but 'fractured', inherently, incapable of united action &, certainly, not capable of altering the direction of WoWS sending itself into a cesspit.

Look at  the fractured mirror that is WoT & ask yourself if WoWS won't see (is seeing) the same cracks in it's mirror? IMO, the fractured mirrors are already on the wall (for everyone to gaze into).

Time for a new late 20th century/21st century motorized Naval Warfare Game via a crowd source that favours real historical combat as opposed to GARBAGE SANDBOX FANTASY EXCREMENT from WG.

 

 

 

 

 

The player base is so unimaginable bad that the only way to play the game is in PvE. 

[Aethervoxx]

5 hours ago, Shaka_D said:

Of course the playerbase is fractured, starting with the fact we're the EU playerbase - different cultures. Then add different ages, life experiences, personalities, socia-economic factors, habits, preferences, etc. There will never be union (other than seemingly against subs if we're to regard the general consensus on the forums as representative).

 

There was also rumour once of WG infiltrating the forums with sock-puppets to muddy the waters to counter any negative sentiment toward them. Proven? Not sure exactly. But doesn't really matter anyways. The only agency people have against WG is to vote with their wallets and this will never happen when many haven't got the discipline to sustain this approach, or when most of the playerbase exists outside of the forum and don't really care.

 

It's all therefore becomes personal choice and at present, the only safe place to be is to stop caring about things so much - find your happy place in or out of the game. Set your limit and if it's breached, move on. What hurts though is if you've chosen to 'invest' a lot of money in the game and leaving the game becomes harder if you've built up your account over the years. In this I understand the frustration when players feel betrayed, but ultimately  - hopeless. Money spent on this game is nothing more than for temporary entertainment. It's not a tangible investment and will yield no real future returns, only loss. So, when this loss happens is only a matter of time for each of us. Just an opinion.

An excellent response that requires repeating .

[Axilian_1]

3 hours ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

The only players that WG care about are the players that pay or can be seduced into paying, and the only players that should have a say in things are those that you call ''mega-trolls'': people who actually know how the game works and how the meta develops. It is no use asking potatoes or Coop mains (not those who converted from Randoms to Coop) for any sensible opinions when it comes to competitive.

 I'd say the reverse as well - don't ask PvP snowflaker's for sensible opinions on CO-OP as all they seem to care about is knocking off snowflakes as fast as they can and not any challenging gameplay (and they are usually the same players who then complain about the  skill level of  new players moving from co-op to randoms) 

 

 

btw I play both randoms + co-op   (though i far prefer co-op as the atmosphere is far less toxic )

[SkollUlfr]

try hard players that pretend there is any basis for competitive play with all the badly balanced nonsense.

vs

sas players that throw £30 at the game every month to play 2 games at the weekend.

 

the game will turn into a battleship pve rpg as wg chanse that ganshin impact stonks. since that route lets them dump out flavour of the month power fantasy with no regard for player balance. and just like in rpg's there will still be pvp tryhards pretending there is a basis for competitive play while swimming in paid power-ups.

 

eg, reload booster module in a lootbox tied to one nations ships. the number of people on this forum, and among streamers who would pay hundreds for the chance to get such a fair and balanced item is rather sickening.

[Sprockett]

2 hours ago, G01ngToxicCommand0 said:

The player base is so unimaginable bad that the only way to play the game is in PvE. 

 

Nonsense - I agree that the majority of the players are NOOBs but that means that one has to play a harder game and show your skills off more to make up for the remaining members of your team not having a Clue.  I am constantly writing that the + sign enlarges that mini map and the number of high tier players go  "gee thanks - I did not know that." as an example of cluelessness.

 

I have had a stream of losses recently but even on a loss and i am in the top 3 with 1000 plus XP - I am happy enough,  it was a challenging match and I move on. 

 

I have got to the stage that I am having a laugh at my teammates incredibly bad play and enjoy the shenanigans of their play.  

 

 

[Bear__Necessities]

2 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Take a close look in your mirror (&, ROFL & LOL, look what a butt ugly moth was caught so soon in the net .

Caught? I willingly posted to call out this sham of a thread. That serves no purpose other than to promote your long history of preaching conspiracy theory and veiled insults at other players. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

What is the point of this topic? Trying to rally more people against WG again in some twisted way?

[Aethervoxx]

48 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

this sham of a thread. That serves no purpose other than to promote your long history of preaching conspiracy theory and veiled insults at other players. 

This thread is about the 'fractured player base'. There is a purpose to discuss this. It is unfortunate that you cannot, apparently, grasp this topic.

Instead, you make direct personal attacks on me alleging 'conspiracy theory' and 'veiled insults at other players' as my long history. 

I post on all manner of subjects which cannot, in any stretch of your delusional imagination, Bear __ Necessities, be of a negative nature. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

7 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

This thread is about the 'fractured player base'. There is a purpose to discuss this. It is unfortunate that you cannot, apparently, grasp this topic.

Instead, you make direct personal attacks on me alleging 'conspiracy theory' and 'veiled insults at other players' as my long history. 

I post on all manner of subjects which cannot, in any stretch of your delusional imagination, Bear __ Necessities, be of a negative nature. 

Do you realize that this playerbase is the same on any other game? There will always be super casuals and tryhards with only 5% of the players even knowing about so called bad PR stunts of their respective devs. You are the one delusional enough to call a normal thing out for being normal

[Bear__Necessities]

11 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

This thread is about the 'fractured player base'. There is a purpose to discuss this. It is unfortunate that you cannot, apparently, grasp this topic.

Instead, you make direct personal attacks on me alleging 'conspiracy theory' and 'veiled insults at other players' as my long history. 

I post on all manner of subjects which cannot, in any stretch of your delusional imagination, Bear __ Necessities, be of a negative nature. 

You keep saying the player base is fractured.... It's not really. We log in, press the same battle button. Play the game within the same parameters (regardless of the batshite crazy MM conspiracy you and others rattle on about). 

 

Play another game if you are unhappy with WG. Or like the vast majority of players, just get on with playing. It's a F2P game. A player can chose to spend money. Therefore it's in our hands. 

[Aethervoxx]

1 minute ago, Yuu5Eleven said:

Do you realize that this playerbase is the same on any other game?

The player base here is not the same as on any other game. The player base is different in every game.

Furthermore, some games do not have super casuals & tryhards. They just have players who enjoy the game framework. I offer EQ as a great example of a good game (which WG products are not).

[Aethervoxx]

3 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

You keep saying the player base is fractured.... It's not really.

This is your opinion. Other posters here may agree with my opinion.  It is only opinion.

 

5 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

batshite crazy MM conspiracy you and others rattle on about

If you choose to be blind, that's your choice.

[arquata2019_]

14 ore fa, Aethervoxx ha scritto:

What do I mean by a 'fractured player base'?

 I mean one that is incapable of coherent & co-ordinated action.

Many talk about not spending money on WoWS product but how many actually do? WoWS (WG) relies on new & ignorant players to keep spending money irregardless of the quality of the product.

Some ask for participation in some independent player study & barely anyone in the forum even participates. I reference Little White Mouse study of T6 random battles (go look that up for yourself).

Some are only here to tell everyone else to 'git gud' or 'carry harder' & otherwise say it's all on the player but never on WoWS/WG/Wedgie 'arrangements'. ROFL & LOL. We all know who the  MEGA-TROLLS are here.

Of course, WoWS (WG) wants a fractured player base. In this way, WG can continue vacuuming money with little effective opposition. All we can say is, personally, we won't spend money anymore.

I wonder if this WoWS player base can be anything but 'fractured', inherently, incapable of united action &, certainly, not capable of altering the direction of WoWS sending itself into a cesspit.

Look at  the fractured mirror that is WoT & ask yourself if WoWS won't see (is seeing) the same cracks in it's mirror? IMO, the fractured mirrors are already on the wall (for everyone to gaze into).

Time for a new late 20th century/21st century motorized Naval Warfare Game via a crowd source that favours real historical combat as opposed to GARBAGE SANDBOX FANTASY EXCREMENT from WG.

 

 

 

 

 

Listen to us, and i'd sugget to me too, what i have to say: bad days happen to everyone on the planet, me too, when i get mad/disappointed at the game i simply close it, or try something else, to "calm" myself (<doesn't know the correct word but you get it). Yeah, there are bad things in this game, i ain't gotta lie, but there are bad things, in basically every game. Things happens. o7

[Yosha_AtaIante]

14 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

GARBAGE SANDBOX FANTASY EXCREMENT from WG.

just uninstall

[tocqueville8]

13 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

In this way, WG can continue vacuuming money with little effective opposition. All we can say is, personally, we won't spend money anymore.

 

Not sure where this "vacuuming money" is supposed to be happening.

Over the last 2 weeks, I've bought three T8 premiums for the price of one (between coupons, cashback and dubs from Ranked or containers), I got even more from Santa containers (for free!), and got enough premium time to last me until August (again, for free!).

 

13 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

Some are only here to tell everyone else to 'git gud' or 'carry harder' & otherwise say it's all on the player but never on WoWS/WG/Wedgie 'arrangements'. ROFL & LOL. We all know who the  MEGA-TROLLS are here.

 

Huh? There's a permanent thread a mile long about the MM, one about subs, one about plane factories. 

 

13 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

irregardless

 

[KillStealBoss]

Many people did put a lot of effort and also money (yes) into the game. They got used to the negative and some BS things. Mitigating it or just not caring too much about it cause "it is what it is". If I did care too much about player skill and see the MM monitor I'll just not play it. Seeing more and more people with 5-10 battles on T5-7 and then 500 on T8 and 9 mostly with premiums and ships that they free exp. Such people existed from the beginning but now it's more common, instead of seeing such person once every 3-4 battles you see them every battle at least 1 in one of the teams. At least cause sometimes you can have 5-6 of them out of 23 people! 

 

People will probably play the game even if many will leave and the game will be filled with WG bots in randoms with high difficulty. I play on PTS and on ranked there the bots are not bad at all, some of them play like unicuum players. 

And what do you want to do? A resistant movement in the game community? Please. Let's be real. 

It's good to discuss issues and if something isn't ok we have to voice it. But you won't make "Solidarność" movement here in the community. The society has changed, everyone is thinking about himself only, even if you are talking about real life not even mentioning F2P game like this. Especially here in the Eng community when we don't share much common things.