[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #1 Posted January 7, 2022 https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/249753-premium-ship-review-marlborough/ 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #2 Posted January 7, 2022 The 'con' list looks longer than the 'pro' list... and I don't like getting conned... Seriously speaking.. I'm still p***ed that Vanguard isn't tier X. Easy pass for me. Nice to see LWM back in action regardless. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FLASH] Misago Players 94 posts 6,520 battles Report post #3 Posted January 7, 2022 Nice to see LWM still making reviews after all that happened. She still loves the game, and that is nice to see. It really is a bit disheartening to see the opinions on Marlborough. I love british battleships, but if it really plays like the opinions on it so far seem to suggest, this one seems really frustrating. It's always annoying having to fight gun dispersion, and having to rely on RNG for damage is never a good design idea... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDFF] zheng_he14 Players 59 posts 36,541 battles Report post #4 Posted January 7, 2022 I've come to the conclusion that dock yard ships are always nerf'ed to some degree and need to be, Puerto Rico aside they've all been easily obtainable for a modest outlay in dubs, if the ships were any good in the hands of novice players it would wreck both the economy and gameplay. If the Marlborough was even within spitting distance of a JB it would just be a fire breathing credit printer given its a T9 premium with a 100% XP camo bonus. To be honest I just view the Marlborough as a 'free' bonus, the dubs for the starter pack pays for itself with the 2000 steel 4000 research points and 10K of coal. A tier 9 premium ship in port is always a welcome addition come snowflake time and you could use it instead of the Agincourt in coop for those missions requiring BB fire damage, 25 second reload pretty much ideal to light up the bot BBs with 2 salvoes since they always put fires out immediately so the second salvo will deal a perma fire. I look forward to taking Marlborough out, I seem to do OK in all the ships that the 'experts' claim are subpar and just scrape by on the 'good' ships 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #5 Posted January 7, 2022 This is ridiculous. I am actually better off playing KGV at T9 than Marlborough. Just ridiculous. Oh and this. WTF were they thinking.... "And if you're thinking "oh, well she's soft skinned because Royal Navy battleships get a good heal", stop right there. Marlborough has a worse heal than any of the other Royal Navy battleships in the game. So not only does she take more damage than other Royal Navy battleships, she doesn't recover health anywhere near as quickly." 11 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #6 Posted January 8, 2022 It's not as bad as you think guys. But yeah it won't do much carry. So I play it only in divs and it can do the damage melting down people that call you p2w and you get reported for just firing your guns. Eh.... But the biggest fail 2 days ago was a guy that said that Ohio is p2w when he came full broadside 3km in his Bourgogne having 37k hp and I clapped him.... Here are my 9 battles on Marlborough so far. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #7 Posted January 8, 2022 I read the review. Thing is, this barf is another premium shill to sucker the idiots into spending money. Verdict (for me): 'NYET!' 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #8 Posted January 8, 2022 7 hours ago, SodaBubbles said: This is ridiculous. I am actually better off playing KGV at T9 than Marlborough. Just ridiculous. Oh and this. WTF were they thinking.... "And if you're thinking "oh, well she's soft skinned because Royal Navy battleships get a good heal", stop right there. Marlborough has a worse heal than any of the other Royal Navy battleships in the game. So not only does she take more damage than other Royal Navy battleships, she doesn't recover health anywhere near as quickly." Heck, I just realized I am better off in Lyon too -- its 16 guns have a fire chance of 26%. Hahahahaha. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[777TH] MaxGct Players 39 posts 19,335 battles Report post #9 Posted January 8, 2022 11 hours ago, zheng_he14 said: I've come to the conclusion that dock yard ships are always nerf'ed to some degree and need to be, Puerto Rico aside they've all been easily obtainable for a modest outlay in dubs, if the ships were any good in the hands of novice players it would wreck both the economy and gameplay. If the Marlborough was even within spitting distance of a JB it would just be a fire breathing credit printer given its a T9 premium with a 100% XP camo bonus. To be honest I just view the Marlborough as a 'free' bonus, the dubs for the starter pack pays for itself with the 2000 steel 4000 research points and 10K of coal. A tier 9 premium ship in port is always a welcome addition come snowflake time and you could use it instead of the Agincourt in coop for those missions requiring BB fire damage, 25 second reload pretty much ideal to light up the bot BBs with 2 salvoes since they always put fires out immediately so the second salvo will deal a perma fire. I look forward to taking Marlborough out, I seem to do OK in all the ships that the 'experts' claim are subpar and just scrape by on the 'good' ships This. You basically paying 5.5k for a starter pack for these bonus last 5 stages. You also getting a mega gift crate so I think all these 4 rewards are probably worth around 5.5k plus the ship you get for "free". You kind of therefore paying nothing for the ship so thats why you generally get a nothing ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,858 battles Report post #10 Posted January 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, MaxGct said: This. You basically paying 5.5k for a starter pack for these bonus last 5 stages. You also getting a mega gift crate so I think all these 4 rewards are probably worth around 5.5k plus the ship you get for "free". You kind of therefore paying nothing for the ship so thats why you generally get a nothing ship. Sad Anchorage noises.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #11 Posted January 8, 2022 Vor 6 Stunden, MacArthur92 sagte: Here are my 9 battles on Marlborough so far. Well, the typical MB players apparently have slightly worse stats than you... at least those I have seen so far. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padds01 Players 855 posts 7,546 battles Report post #12 Posted January 8, 2022 9 hours ago, MacArthur92 said: It's not as bad as you think guys. But yeah it won't do much carry. So I play it only in divs and it can do the damage melting down people that call you p2w and you get reported for just firing your guns. Eh.... But the biggest fail 2 days ago was a guy that said that Ohio is p2w when he came full broadside 3km in his Bourgogne having 37k hp and I clapped him.... Here are my 9 battles on Marlborough so far. yeah but this only shows you and your div are good. for it to tell us anything about this ship we need comparisons like how well do you guys do if you play something else 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-0_0-] JoeSparkx Beta Tester 235 posts 5,492 battles Report post #13 Posted January 8, 2022 Says exactly what we all thought when it was on the Dev Blog. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] Itwastuesday Players 1,768 posts 13,575 battles Report post #14 Posted January 8, 2022 Yeah when they announced 16 guns, I though okay, that sounds fun. When 1.4 sigma was announced, I though okay, clearly Colombo didn't suck hard enough so if I want maximum sucktitude I can now buy it with dubs? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDFF] zheng_he14 Players 59 posts 36,541 battles Report post #15 Posted January 8, 2022 6 hours ago, MaxGct said: This. You basically paying 5.5k for a starter pack for these bonus last 5 stages. You also getting a mega gift crate so I think all these 4 rewards are probably worth around 5.5k plus the ship you get for "free". You kind of therefore paying nothing for the ship so thats why you generally get a nothing ship. Nope I am saying I am swapping the Dubs for the other resources and get a ship thrown in, I wouldn't bother with the starter pack otherwise, since I don't need another Tier 9 premium BB. Between JB, Georgia, Marco Polo, Pommern and Hizen most if not all situations covered and with 7 Premium/Special British BBs don't need another as a captain trainer or credit printer (I've got all the non CV tech line British ships, anyway!), the fact its a good or bad ship doesn't come into my personal equation, for other people, may be a little newer to the game, getting a premium T9 BB that's pretty much guaranteed to provide a net profit in credits every game (a dozen HE quarter pen salvos from 16 guns before dying should give enough damage for a positive credit haul, most non DD players last longer than 5 minutes in a game!), without forking out a sizable amount of hard cash might be a bigger deal. What I am saying is the game would suffer if they gave away an over powered Tier 9 BB to anyone with 5500 dubs! A ship with high skill ceiling means those who can take advantage of the ship's pros whilst mitigating its cons will have a good time, whilst joe average won't ruin every game by burning the other team to ash in 10 minutes and so won't end up with 5 Marlboroughs in every game. Without a higher barrier to entry all dock yard ships need to have a reasonably high skill ceiling, give the Anchorage, Baltimore guns and smoke detection even keeping the 15.5sec reload things would suck for everyone else! The Marlborough is different from almost all the other Premium British BBs which have a slant towards AP performance than the tech line and can offer a different play style, the Marlborough is more like an up tiered KGV, if they gave it better sigma and firing angles with 16 guns that fires HE, a base 25sec reload that can drop below 20 secs with AR and MBM3 every same tier destroyer without a detonation flag that gets spotted within its own firing range by the Marlborough is a candidate to be instantly deleted by someone with half decent aim and those that might survive the first salvo won't survive the second, the KGV has equally 'bad' firing angles otherwise it would do the same to T7 DDs, balance is not just about what happens between ships of the same class. Finally, one man's meat is another man's poison, I happen to like the Monarch and think the Bismarck is trash which I am sure is the minority opinion! I might like the Marlborough I might not but I am not really going to know just by reading what someone else scrawls 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-0_0-] JoeSparkx Beta Tester 235 posts 5,492 battles Report post #16 Posted January 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, zheng_he14 said: [-SNIP-] I made the mistake of whaling, I bought the repulse not intending to get the Marley, however I have just unlocked it fromt he dockyard missions, oh well. Tried it. I am not a unicum, however I can aim. Jesus. Broadsiding BB most of the shells missed at 16km. his return fire hit and citadelled me, I was angled in. yeah, I think LWM is right on the money with this one, that said she usually is right on the money. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #17 Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Adamcriz said: I made the mistake of whaling, I bought the repulse not intending to get the Marley, however I have just unlocked it fromt he dockyard missions, oh well. Tried it. I am not a unicum, however I can aim. Jesus. Broadsiding BB most of the shells missed at 16km. his return fire hit and citadelled me, I was angled in. yeah, I think LWM is right on the money with this one, that said she usually is right on the money. Perhaps it is best to say that 'Marley' is a "connesseur's ship". For people who enjoy that little bit of extra challenge where things would otherwise be too easy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-0_0-] JoeSparkx Beta Tester 235 posts 5,492 battles Report post #18 Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Alle 8/1/2022 alle 19:34, Karasu_Hidesuke ha scritto: Perhaps it is best to say that 'Marley' is a "connesseur's ship". For people who enjoy that little bit of extra challenge where things would otherwise be too easy. Challenge? I believe the word you're looking for is 'Masochism' for wanting to play it, and 'Sadism' on WeeGee's part for inflicting it upon us. [CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATION] Edited January 10, 2022 by Floppyz Mature content 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted January 8, 2022 Alle 8/1/2022 alle 19:38, Adamcriz ha scritto: Challenge? I believe the word you're looking for is 'Masochism' for wanting to play it, and 'Sadism' on WeeGee's part for inflicting it upon us. [CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATION] Yes, that is actually word that I wanted to say out loud, but was trying to remain somewhat considerate in my turns of phrase. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #20 Posted January 9, 2022 13 hours ago, Padds01 said: yeah but this only shows you and your div are good. for it to tell us anything about this ship we need comparisons like how well do you guys do if you play something else Playing it solo isn't great. Just like playing Colbert or Belfast 43. Some ships are great in division. Others like Druid or Elbing are even better playing solo than in a div. And some are bad no matter div or not. Things like Z-31 which just painful to play, same with Vittorio Veneto. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #21 Posted January 9, 2022 Last for WR of all T9 BBs. GG WG. Very very weak performance, especially for a new premium ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #22 Posted January 9, 2022 Played one game, not bad. But, like many of you noted, the shell dispersion is, how to say...shells are very independent. Fire a shot, and one shell goes to France, another to England and the other to Spain. AP is not reliable so it's basically a fire flaming dragon that coughs a lot. Charging into any BB or multiple cruiser will result in rapid hp drain. Hence, kiting position is the safest way unless you are behind a cover or overwhelm enemy with more ships. Is it a bad ship? I don't think so. Is it a good ship? No. It's mediocre. In a T10 dominant game with CV this ship will struggle. The sigma improvement or better armor could make this ship enjoyable to play. At the moment, it isn't a fun ship to play, at least for me as a solo player. Note: This was an all T9 game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #23 Posted January 9, 2022 imagine all that grnd/money/effort for a ship with the worst sigma, and only two consumables...at tier IX. Wg could do a lot better than that. sry but i would feel ripped off a little. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TBU] Piratenmaedchen [TBU] Players 367 posts 891 battles Report post #24 Posted January 9, 2022 Alle 8/1/2022 alle 19:38, Adamcriz ha scritto: [CONTENT REMOVED BY MODERATION] I don't think I would like to play with a slave featuring such a bad sigma. The entire room would get messy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-0_0-] JoeSparkx Beta Tester 235 posts 5,492 battles Report post #25 Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Piratenmaedchen said: I don't think I would like to play with a slave featuring such a bad sigma. The entire room would get messy. How about a Gimp Mask instead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
