[JACKS] theblackadder1980uk Players 1 post Report post #1 Posted January 6, 2022 Any news on when this is being sold outside of the loot box's ? I have been waiting sice may last year to hope to get one ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #2 Posted January 6, 2022 Vor 18 Stunden, theblackadder1980uk sagte: Any news on when this is being sold outside of the loot box's ? I have been waiting sice may last year to hope to get one ? Well, you are too late. She was fun when you got no CV in the lineup. Now she has to deal with both CV and SS, so Alt+F4 becomes a natural reflex if you get that kind of MM. Funny that the cumulative Agincourt experience of the downvoters amounts to exactly ONE PvP game. 1 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #3 Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, MementoMori_6030 said: Well, you are too late. She was fun when you got no CV in the lineup. Now she has to deal with both CV and SS, so Alt+F4 becomes a natural reflex if you get that kind of MM. To be completely fair to CVs and SSs, that has become a natural reflex for pretty much the entire game by now. Spoiler let the flame wars begin Spoiler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #4 Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, theblackadder1980uk said: Any news on when this is being sold outside of the loot box's ? I have been waiting sice may last year to hope to get one ? She's not really worth the wait, to be honest. Try one of the German BCs if you want a mid-tier secondary ship. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #5 Posted January 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: She's not really worth the wait, to be honest. Try one of the German BCs if you want a mid-tier secondary ship. A much better one at that as they are all several knots faster and actually have AA. Bad AA to be fair, but bad AA is better than no AA. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SURFA] mdjmcnally Players 434 posts 18,351 battles Report post #6 Posted January 7, 2022 Picked up one in Santa crate, Knocked snowflake off but don’t think will bother again with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #7 Posted January 7, 2022 Hahaha. Its so awesome that the devs went to all that trouble to create such fun T4 and T5 ships, then didn't give them any AA to deal with the CVs that the devs have flooded the game with. Stoooooooopid. So they missed out on thousands and thousands of premium ship sales because they decided 3% of the population was more important than the game itself. What a waste of resources...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #8 Posted January 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said: Hahaha. Its so awesome that the devs went to all that trouble to create such fun T4 and T5 ships, then didn't give them any AA to deal with the CVs that the devs have flooded the game with. Stoooooooopid. So they missed out on thousands and thousands of premium ship sales because they decided 3% of the population was more important than the game itself. What a waste of resources...... Honestly doubt that they missed out on thousands of premium ship sales, especially thousands and thousands especially not with the tier 4's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #9 Posted January 7, 2022 Vor 9 Stunden, Bellegar sagte: To be completely fair to CVs and SSs, that has become a natural reflex for pretty much the entire game by now. Yes, but her lack of any AAA is attracting even the most cowardly CV players, and her lack of reasonable speed makes trying to dodge homing torpedoes an ambitious endeavour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #10 Posted January 7, 2022 4 hours ago, lafeel said: Honestly doubt that they missed out on thousands of premium ship sales, especially thousands and thousands especially not with the tier 4's. I think you take my point, though. There are no T4 premium CVs. So basically, they screwed themselves out of T4-5 premium sales to promote CVs that have no offsetting premium sales of their own -- at a tier where they are especially unnecessary and unpopular. It's the stooopid we've come to expect. Why dont they do the sensible thing and remove T4 CVs? Worried about the coop grind for them? Give them a permacamo with an XP boost! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] tollonator [SPURD] Players 40 posts 8,276 battles Report post #11 Posted January 7, 2022 I was super lucky and got Agincourt in my first free container when she was "released" (In lootboxes). She's still one of my go to "relax ships". Had a quite nice 103.8k damage Agincourt game in a double t4 CV game. Until both CVs realized that I had no AA and I was promptly sunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PISTN] BrettMRC [PISTN] Players 212 posts 7,736 battles Report post #12 Posted January 7, 2022 Nothing wrong with Agincourt at all. Stick with some AA ships and you'll be fine. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #13 Posted January 7, 2022 Vor 6 Minuten, BrettMRC sagte: Nothing wrong with Agincourt at all. Stick with some AA ships and you'll be fine. No idea what your idea of "AA ships" is, and your Agincourt apparently does not fine at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PISTN] BrettMRC [PISTN] Players 212 posts 7,736 battles Report post #14 Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: No idea what your idea of "AA ships" is, and your Agincourt apparently does not fine at all. I have fun playing it, is that a crime? Or are you just being a little [edited] because you think my stats don't measure up? :p 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #15 Posted January 7, 2022 Gerade eben, BrettMRC sagte: I have fun playing it, is that a crime? No, but making claims which don't stand up to reality may be challenged. Gerade eben, BrettMRC sagte: Or are you just being a little [edited] because you think my stats don't measure up? :p They don't measure up to the verdict "fine" if you aren't a bit of a masochist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PISTN] BrettMRC [PISTN] Players 212 posts 7,736 battles Report post #16 Posted January 7, 2022 Can't argue about the masochism to be fair! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #17 Posted January 7, 2022 7 hours ago, lafeel said: Honestly doubt that they missed out on thousands of premium ship sales, especially thousands and thousands especially not with the tier 4's. I think it has to affect the popularity of ships at those Tiers. There's plenty of potential Tier IV and V Premiums left for WG to drop into the game, but only the hardcore collector is going to buy a ship which is effectively defenceless against a constant threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #18 Posted January 7, 2022 It´s a ship I have but don´t play, and yes the lack of AA is the reason Not that the lack of AA makes much of a difference but even the Nikolai "feels" better with its 4 Maxim Mg´s I have a grand total of 3 aircraft shot down in 28 battles Don´t think I have played the Nikolai more than a couple of times since the CV rework Someone mentioned following a ship with AA, yes well of course but choosing another ship is a better option Strangely the Agincourt gets ASW Airstrikes but they cant rig up a few Lewis guns on deck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SUOLA] arttuperkunas Players 1,963 posts 10,936 battles Report post #19 Posted January 7, 2022 4 hours ago, BrettMRC said: Nothing wrong with Agincourt at all. Stick with some AA ships and you'll be fine. lol It's like the entire CV/AA rework somehow passed you by. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #20 Posted January 7, 2022 I think a lot of people wanted the Agincourt, WG made her a port queen saving them the issue of balancing her Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDFF] zheng_he14 Players 59 posts 36,541 battles Report post #21 Posted January 7, 2022 Played 132 Randoms in Agincourt with a 55% win rate apart from the 100% WR from 1 game in the Repulse she's my best WR British BB! Of the BBs with more than 50 games she's only beaten by the Freddie with a 57% WR! Might just be me who gets how to play all the unloved 'worse' ships in tier vessels, but suck at all the so called OP ones! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #22 Posted January 7, 2022 Vor 11 Minuten, zheng_he14 sagte: she's my best WR British BB! Same here, but imagine how good she could be with some AAA and more powerful engines... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDFF] zheng_he14 Players 59 posts 36,541 battles Report post #23 Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Same here, but imagine how good she could be with some AAA and more powerful engines... Grossly overpowered! Agincourt is OK at T5, the Oklahoma is the one that needs a serious do-over, got AA, but so what! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RuruushuVuiBuritania Players 695 posts 5,720 battles Report post #24 Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MementoMori_6030 said: Same here, but imagine how good she could be with some AAA and more powerful engines... Why would you ruin a beautiful historicallly accurate ship model? One week you complain about historical accuracy, now you advocate for a Bayern-esque ahistorical refit... Agincourt is still perfectly playable even with CVs. Might I suggest moving your tiers down even further? Or go to WT full time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #25 Posted January 7, 2022 Vor 4 Minuten, RuruushuVuiBuritania sagte: One week you complain about historical accuracy, now you advocate for a Bayern-esque ahistorical refit... Historically accurate? She was decommissioned in 1919, so - in contrast to this game - she never had to deal with serious carrier-based air attacks or submarine-launched homing torpedoes. Funny, isn't it? Vor 4 Minuten, RuruushuVuiBuritania sagte: Agincourt is still perfectly playable even with CVs. Playable and enjoyable are different things. Why have you played her only 5 (?) times, if she is "perfectly playable"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
