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[RobImps105]

Looks a great game, pretty and sounds grear

but iv never been so disappointed in a game as this, obviously iv never driven a ship before or fire a torpedo so im a bit unsure of whats the best tactic but i spend ages reading up adding my little flags on and studying the best settings to last about 2 minutes as soon as im spotted!! 
 

[BackToHarbor]

It's easy to play, but hard to master.

 

World of Warships is not a very forgiving game, especially if you play against other, more experienced players. There are many factors which come into play - positioning, your armor layout, the enemies armor layout, your caliber, the enemies caliber and so forth, generally speaking knowing your and the enemies ship. But there's also things like overmatch, spotting mechanics and other important things to consider if you want to play better.

 

So, if you don't want to study everything before hand, I'd say learning by doing. Get to know the basics and try to improve yourself further from that.

Everybody makes mistakes, so you can reconsider after you died what you could've done better in that situation.

 

22 minutes ago, RobImps105 said:

to last about 2 minutes as soon as im spotted!! 

 

For that scenario specifically: Don't push to aggressivly, especially when the game just started. Always watch your minimap.

 

[ColonelPete]

33 minutes ago, RobImps105 said:

Looks a great game, pretty and sounds grear

but iv never been so disappointed in a game as this, obviously iv never driven a ship before or fire a torpedo so im a bit unsure of whats the best tactic but i spend ages reading up adding my little flags on and studying the best settings to last about 2 minutes as soon as im spotted!! 

Maybe you should ask for help before you give up.

Not that there a hundreds of threads and many hours of videos that explain the basics...

[KillStealBoss]

2 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Maybe you should ask for help before you give up.

Not that there a hundreds of threads and many hours of videos that explain the basics...

And why you can't help him? Having plenty of time.....

[ColonelPete]

5 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

And why you can't help him? Having plenty of time.....

Who said I cannot?

[KillStealBoss]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Who said I cannot?

You seem like not that much eager. I did help a lot of people here in the game. One dude that had 500 PR to get him into 1200 by playing with him and explaining things in voice chat. He was very thankful. 

[KillStealBoss]

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Who said I cannot?

In fact I was doing it a lot , with some it was few battles and I got them into a clan that can take him and help be better, sometimes I was helping a completely new player, these were the times I was playing a lot of T5s and people were DM me in port to help them. Now less people ask for help in comparison to 2017-2019. 

[ColonelPete]

7 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

You seem like not that much eager. I did help a lot of people here in the game. One dude that had 500 PR to get him into 1200 by playing with him and explaining things in voice chat. He was very thankful. 

 

3 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

In fact I was doing it a lot , with some it was few battles and I got them into a clan that can take him and help be better, sometimes I was helping a completely new player, these were the times I was playing a lot of T5s and people were DM me in port to help them. Now less people ask for help in comparison to 2017-2019. 

And? What has this to do with this topic?

[KillStealBoss]

16 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

 

And? What has this to do with this topic?

Maybe you should guide him having so much spare time, contact him and help him just like I did help many other players. 

9 hours ago, RobImps105 said:

Looks a great game, pretty and sounds grear

but iv never been so disappointed in a game as this, obviously iv never driven a ship before or fire a torpedo so im a bit unsure of whats the best tactic but i spend ages reading up adding my little flags on and studying the best settings to last about 2 minutes as soon as im spotted!! 
 

If this is a call for help idk what is.

[ColonelPete]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

Maybe you should guide him having so much spare time, contact him and help him just like I did help many other players. 

If this is a call for help idk what is.

I am not in the business of speculation or make believe as some other people.

If he wants help, he will ask. That is why I made the suggestion.

[KillStealBoss]

3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

I am not in the business of speculation or make believe as some other people.

If he wants help, he will ask. That is why I made the suggestion.

You don't see that the OP needs help after reading his initial post? Wtf is wrong with you?

[KillStealBoss]

6 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

business of speculation

What to speculate here wtf?! 

 

9 hours ago, RobImps105 said:

Looks a great game, pretty and sounds grear

but iv never been so disappointed in a game

This is a "speculation" for you? You just can't say you don't care about him. Have you ever played with a new player in division guiding him in voice chat (discord or team speak) ? DOUBTFUL. 

[ColonelPete]

7 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

You don't see that the OP needs help after reading his initial post? Wtf is wrong with you?

There is a difference between needing and wanting something.

[KillStealBoss]

5 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

There is a difference between needing and wanting something.

Really? So you won't react on your own UNLESS he will DM you directly? Shame ... Sometimes I was offering others my help by my own to help them. But you're too egoistic for that. 

[KillStealBoss]

Aaaand zero response from Colonel.

So much caring about the community, the excellent savior of the forums that corrects our mistakes like if God himself gave him this task to do.... can’t go and and help a player in need, zero effort whatsoever. Egoism. 

 

[KillStealBoss]

12 hours ago, RobImps105 said:

Looks a great game, pretty and sounds grear

but iv never been so disappointed in a game as this, obviously iv never driven a ship before or fire a torpedo so im a bit unsure of whats the best tactic but i spend ages reading up adding my little flags on and studying the best settings to last about 2 minutes as soon as im spotted!! 
 

I will DM you so we can play together and I can tell you about some game mechanics etc. 

[ColonelPete]

6 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

Really? So you won't react on your own UNLESS he will DM you directly?

Nope.

 

[KillStealBoss]

15 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Nope.

 

That's pretty cold blooded. Shows also how much you care about the community. 

[togMOR]

Vor 16 Stunden, MacArthur92 sagte:

And why you can't help him? Having plenty of time.....

Available time is used up already by posting one-line bonmots in as many threads as possible ;)

[rage1750]

I forgot about ColonPete .....   

Added to my block list a while back due to @Humorpalanta pointing out the feature.

 

Its really nice coming onto the forum and not having to even see the colon.

 

 

PS.  I am aware of how to spell Colonel  

[KillStealBoss]

8 hours ago, rage1750 said:

I forgot about ColonPete .....   

Added to my block list a while back due to @Humorpalanta pointing out the feature.

 

Its really nice coming onto the forum and not having to even see the colon.

 

 

PS.  I am aware of how to spell Colonel  

Yeah and he thinks people like him and his point is important. lel.

[ColonelPete]

25 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Yeah and he thinks people like himand his point is important. lel.

And you believe you know what other people think, how presumptuous...

 

[Verblonde]

On 12/29/2021 at 6:35 PM, RobImps105 said:

last about 2 minutes as soon as im spotted!

You've got hidden stats, so I can't comment specifically, but - besides taking @MacArthur92 up on his offer - some general pointers for newcomers:

• Don't rush up the tiers, even though it's abundantly possible to do so. WG have done a reasonable job of introducing mechanics and concepts in a logical order: guns, torps, planes, hydro, radar, and so on.
• Make use of the wiki (https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/World_of_Warships); there is a *lot* in there, so don't try and digest it all at once - read the bits you need at any given point in your development.
• Situational awareness is perhaps the single most important part of the game, and within this general area: make your mini-map as big as possible (you can also make it see-through if you find it blocks your view on your monitor), and read/understand the vision mechanics in the wiki (not understanding the latter gets a lot of people killed).
• Play cautiously: this isn't usually a 'charge in all guns blazing' thing (at least not against real people, Coop mode is though); pick your moments to engage (recalling that firing guns means people will usually see you).
• If/when you die horribly, stay in the game and watch what other players do (although be mindful that there is no shortage of players whose most useful service is to show you what not to do).
• Make full use of protected MM in Randoms (if you aren't out of it already): you'll face mainly bots, but get all the rewards of Random mode.
• Learn how armour/ammo works, and how they interact; broadly-speaking, the key thing is to not show anyone your broadside - hits to your citadel (not on DDs) will get you sunk very quickly, and - where you have a healing potion - generally are less healable.
• If you're playing anything sneaky (so, DDs), make a note of the range of your AA guns, and switch them off (when not needed) if the range is longer than the air detection distance (P key is the default toggle).
• Keep asking questions: there are plenty of helpful folk on the forum, and we were all once where you are.

[Sir_Sinksalot]

I really don't know how to feel about the general census that a lot of players have when it comes to "don't rush up the tiers"

 

Here's my noob take on that and make of it what you will.

 

1. Lower tier ships are crap. They have no accuracy, barely any equipment slots and what you'll get from it most likely is bad habits and the game "correcting" you for probably having the correct lead, had it not been for that dogshit accuracy that fooled you into thinking you aimed badly.

 

2. Lower tier have no AA worth mentioning. So you'll encounter Hosho CV seal clubbers and just seal clubbers in general, regardless of class they play. So if being shhhhht on by CV's without any means by which to defend yourself is your idea of fun and educational, go ahead. All you'll learn is lower tier maps that don't feature at higher tiers so useless oh, and the art of "capping good, not capping bad" which takes all of 2-5 battles surely lol. 

 

3. The 2 tier MM protection stops at T4. Once you play a T5, it's open season for vs T7 battles. Sure, there'll be just as many T5 on the enemy team but you're basically going to be taking a backseat ride while both the teams T7 ships slaughter bother sets of lower tier scrubs and there's some pretty savage premium T7's played by some very experienced players floating about. Also, the AA STILL sucks donkey balls at those tiers.

 

So my noob advice? Get to T8 and for me that's about the sweet spot, arguably T9 for the extra equipment slot but I feel T8, maybe a few T7 gems, and now lower than that. At those tiers, you will have ships that actually reflect how the game is played, you will have ships with accuracy that generally reward correct lead and will rightfully educate you when you miss shots that you were at fault. You will have AA and fighters etc, enough to deal problems that give CV players reason to actually think about what they're doing instead of indiscriminately torpedoing the shhh out of you for no aircraft losses. Obviously DD's won't be much threat with AA to CV's but my advice would also be to avoid DD's for a while too. DD's are a very important class and should be left on the shelf for a bit until you learn all the maps and watch what other DD's are doing during battles as you play some other class. 

 

You have PvE modes such as Co-op and Scenario battles to hone your skills and practice things you would like to try. Go play those over and over until you understand the ship you start to click with and get really good and landing shots with it etc. Then you can take at least that to PvP modes and will indeed land shots on ships. But you will ultimately learn from your mistakes and only by playing against good ships and good players will you yourself get good. Using bad ships and playing against bad ships and bad players only teaches you bad things and how to play against bad players and ships while using bad ships lol. 

 

Also, I think when it comes to gaming, a player either clicks with a game or they don't. Sure, we are all of different abilities but for me, I like to get thrown into the deep end when it comes to most games with this tier style approach. You either sink or swim. If you're the type that learns fast and has a genuine interest to go away and also watch some vids on pointers, then you'll be fine, if not, you'll probably suck balls no matter how long you droll about at lower tier.

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

So my noob advice? Get to T8 and for me that's about the sweet spot, arguably T9 for the extra equipment slot but I feel T8, maybe a few T7 gems, and now lower than that. At those tiers, you will have ships that actually reflect how the game is played, you will have ships with accuracy that generally reward correct lead and will rightfully educate you when you miss shots that you were at fault. You will have AA and fighters etc, enough to deal problems that give CV players reason to actually think about what they're doing instead of indiscriminately torpedoing the shhh out of you for no aircraft losses.

If that works for you, that is fine, but for most new players that does not work well and they get worse results from higher Tiers than from mid Tiers. Most people have a hard time learning in an enviroment with a higher complexity.

Usually, when you try to lean something, you start with the easy steps and slowly increase the complexity.