World of Warships hacker could face 5 years in jail

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17 hours ago, lilgoth said:

dont worry, im sure all the usual WG shills will be along shortly to remind you that its impossible to hack in WOWS, that no aimbots or cheats exist, and you are just a terribad player who got outplayed 

And how right u where....

 

I was told 5 years ago "no it not possible."

 

Im guessing people with 30000 battles have used some sort of exploit, just do the math.

[Faceoff]

13 hours ago, Wulf_Ace said:

try playing call of duty,EVERY game is a cheater or hacker. Here in wows at least I really dont see them that much, maybe 1 per week

Thats the reason i  quit FPS on pc. THey even admit it is a problem, look to GTA 5, hackers can change the whole online game world.

[Migantium_Mashum]

2 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

 

Honestly, it sounds like that Gneisenau simply had Priority Target and used some good ole WASD.

I remember a Soyuz game on Warrior's Path when I dodged EVERY launch by the enemy DD because I more or less timed his reload, and probably used PT as well.

After the rework, I've hardly specced PT on any BB anymore, so I often try to go straight at the DD and thread the needle, but moving erratically is probably a better tactic.

 

I wouldn't report anything that I'm capable of doing myself just by paying attention and being creative.

 

I only use some approved mods, and the most useful ones I find to be the points/timer indicator, as well as the "ship list" that tells me the remaining health pools. They both help making sound strategic choices. In terms of aiming and dodging, I'm afraid it's pretty black-and-white: either there are no cheats, or someone's cheating every other salvo/launch, and I'm just not paranoid enough to believe that.

 

There was me and a Sims and the enemy Gneis..

 

We were both out of detection range, we were not radared because no other enemy players were close and we didn't just fire torps when the timer hit Zero..

 

For the whole of my hunt I never once had main armament selected only torpedoes.. The Sims never fired main guns either..

We were not detected and neither of us had RL..

The second we fired torpedoes the Gneis changed direction...

Now, there were two of us and we both thought something was wrong and to then have the Gneis blind fire the Sims and kill it when it was not detected...

 

Sorry, I have been playing this game for 5 years and I still cannot explain a legitimate way for this Gneis to do that to this day...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tocqueville8]

8 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

For the whole of my hunt I never once had main armament selected only torpedoes.. The Sims never fired main guns either..

 We were not detected and neither of us had RL..

The second we fired torpedoes the Gneis changed direction...

 

Hard to say but it's not that strange.

Over enough games, it can happen once by pure luck or just "spider sense"...

 

8 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

Sorry, I have been playing this game for 5 years and I still cannot explain a legitimate way for this Gneis to do that to this day...

 

Exactly.

I mean, maybe you're right, but such cheats were possible wouldn't they be more common? 

 

8 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

Now, there were two of us and we both thought something was wrong and to then have the Gneis blind fire the Sims and kill it when it was not detected...

 

There's a PQ video in which he blind-hits 5 shells on a DD with his Bourgogne just by knowing he had to be in a certain portion of a cap. That's a fluke, but also an educated guess.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it might've been a very good player who also got lucky. Over years of gaming, it's possible it happened one time that was weird enough for you to remember.

 

Cheers 

[ColonelPete]

8 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

Now, there were two of us and we both thought something was wrong and to then have the Gneis blind fire the Sims and kill it when it was not detected...

Sure. I guess you did not show the replay back then.

[Chaoskraehe]

Vor 6 Stunden, AgarwaenME sagte:

you do realise most websites selling "cheats" only sell you scams right?

And water is wet. No idea what you want from me. 

[ihan_paras_nimi]

"Kirsanov have caused an estimated 670 million rubles (around $9 million) in damages, as many frustrated players abandoned the game"

Pales in comparison to Sub_O's contribution.

[AgarwaenME]

1 hour ago, Chaoskraehe said:

And water is wet. No idea what you want from me. 

so why bring up such websites in the first place then?

[AgarwaenME]

1 hour ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

There was me and a Sims and the enemy Gneis..

 

We were both out of detection range, we were not radared because no other enemy players were close and we didn't just fire torps when the timer hit Zero..

 

For the whole of my hunt I never once had main armament selected only torpedoes.. The Sims never fired main guns either..

We were not detected and neither of us had RL..

The second we fired torpedoes the Gneis changed direction...

Now, there were two of us and we both thought something was wrong and to then have the Gneis blind fire the Sims and kill it when it was not detected...

 

Sorry, I have been playing this game for 5 years and I still cannot explain a legitimate way for this Gneis to do that to this day...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so certainly you have a replay to show us then?

[AkerJack]

I still waiting for actions from WG against those who actually use these programs in game....

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, AkerJack said:

I still waiting for actions from WG against those who actually use these programs in game....

17 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

The asia server regularly posts numbers of people getting banned using forbidden mods and bots.

https://forum.worldofwarships.asia/topic/41475-bot-and-mod-account-sanction-report/

 

[Aethervoxx]

21 hours ago, lilgoth said:

dont worry, im sure all the usual WG shills will be along shortly to remind you that its impossible to hack in WOWS

One of the main Shills just beat your notification of same .

[AgarwaenME]

2 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said:

One of the main Shills just beat your notification of same .

 

you're ever the same aren't you..

 

but still it proves the sort of person who makes such claims have nothing besides personal opinions

[AkerJack]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

 

 

EU server and forum don't share this info because ot would go under the shaming rule. But when I file a ticket the copy/paste answer is always the same..."it is not possible share the kind of penality sanctioned but actions have been taken" regardless you see the same "players" in the next games...

[ColonelPete]

Just now, AkerJack said:

EU server and forum don't share this info because ot would go under the shaming rule. But when I file a ticket the copy/paste answer is always the same..."it is not possible share the kind of penality sanctioned but actions have been taken" regardless you see the same "players" in the next games...

And?

Either these people do not do what you think they are doing or they got different sanctions than you expected.

 

Btw. publishing numbers does not fall under the shaming rule.

[lilgoth]

2 hours ago, AkerJack said:

I still waiting for actions from WG against those who actually use these programs in game....

WG do seem to have banned an entire clan of bot players sometime over the last few months,

but it only took hundreds of reports, multiple thousands of battles, a 10 page forum thread and about a full year of time for action to be taken 

[Figment]

I'm wondering how they calculated the damages and if they have to provide evidence of the reason players left the game to be cheats and then his cheats specifically. That'd be a pretty tall mountain of evidence to provide.

[FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor]

Am 27.12.2021 um 23:50, lovelacebeer sagte:

How I wish I could get access to the court log for that trial, it would be very enlightening as I think WGs legal team might say very different things to their CMs.

OT the Russian "judicial" system (pardon the German)

https://www1.wdr.de/mediathek/audio/wdr5/wdr5-scala-aktuelle-kultur/audio-menschenrechtsorganisation-memorial-wird-aufgeloest-100.html

 

(It is essentially an instrument to prosecute dissidents and anyone running afoul of Putin or his cronies).

 

(So Wargaming should be good.)

 

(What a relief.)

[BielayaSmert]

20 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

For the whole of my hunt I never once had main armament selected only torpedoes.. The Sims never fired main guns either..

We were not detected and neither of us had RL..

The second we fired torpedoes the Gneis changed direction...

Now, there were two of us and we both thought something was wrong and to then have the Gneis blind fire the Sims and kill it when it was not detected...

 

Sorry, I have been playing this game for 5 years and I still cannot explain a legitimate way for this Gneis to do that to this day…

 

Maybe a bot from WG? The behaviour of bots in coops is similar

 

Maybe there are hours when there are few players and WG are placing bots on ranked and radoms.

[AkerJack]

17 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

And?

Either these people do not do what you think they are doing or they got different sanctions than you expected.

 

Btw. publishing numbers does not fall under the shaming rule.

And nothing...i just would like to know what kind of measures are taken ot not onstead.of gettinf always the same copy/paste message, I wpuld loke to see that they care somehow of the real players

16 hours ago, lilgoth said:

WG do seem to have banned an entire clan of bot players sometime over the last few months,

but it only took hundreds of reports, multiple thousands of battles, a 10 page forum thread and about a full year of time for action to be taken 

That's my point...seems and ot took forever before they got aware of the issue...

[Migantium_Mashum]

20 hours ago, AgarwaenME said:

 

so certainly you have a replay to show us then?

I was waiting for the 'Replay' request... No, I don't have the replay but I don't just send messages to WG for nothing and I wasn't alone contacting WG because the Sims player also contacted...

 

Do you feel the need to now say 'No replay no foul' now? It's what I would expect... don't disappoint please.

[Migantium_Mashum]

22 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Sure. I guess you did not show the replay back then.

Seriously? WTF do I need to lie for and I wasn't the only person saying something was wrong...

 

But, hey ho Know you of old.. 

[ColonelPete]

2 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

Seriously? WTF do I need to lie for and I wasn't the only person saying something was wrong...

 

But, hey ho Know you of old.. 

This is not about lying. In around 99% of these cases the player in question missed something or did not know something.

[Aethervoxx]

Where is WIKI WoWS Leaks?

[AgarwaenME]

4 hours ago, Migantium_Mashum said:

Seriously? WTF do I need to lie for and I wasn't the only person saying something was wrong...

 

But, hey ho Know you of old.. 

 

What can be claimed without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

 

Especially in this case when your claims would require WAY more than what's actually talked about, ie client side modification of code.

Lying or merely wanting to see what you want to see isn't evidence for anything.