Are WG running out of ship types?

[ThePopesHolyFinger]

what the hell is that?

[SV_Kompresor]

40k collab.

[ThePopesHolyFinger]

Just now, SV_Kompresor said:

40k collab.

Ah, thanks

[lafeel]

7 minutes ago, DB2212 said:

Ah, thanks

Unfortunately, as a Fenyang clone, it's more of a ship that gets smashed than a one that smashas (sic) others.

[lup3s]

10 hours ago, lafeel said:

Unfortunately, as a Fenyang clone, it's more of a ship that gets smashed than a one that smashas (sic) others.

 

It's like an Akizuki without built-in IFHE ? The ship ain't bad imo

[lafeel]

1 hour ago, lup3s said:

 

It's like an Akizuki without built-in IFHE ? The ship ain't bad imo

And torps that can only hit BB's/CV's. Oh and you also got a 70% dpm nerf as compared with Aki.

[Nibenay78]

5 minutes ago, lafeel said:

And torps that can only hit BB's/CV's. Oh and you also got a 70% dpm nerf as compared with Aki.

 

Which is a bit hilarious if one knows how 40k Orkz like to build their ships..

[lafeel]

3 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

 

Which is a bit hilarious if one knows how 40k Orkz like to build their ships..

Sad more than hillarious if you ask me.

[Nibenay78]

5 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Sad more than hillarious if you ask me.

I think all their collabs are sad. And while I'm perfectly happy to enjoy 40k (playing RogueTrader and Dark Heresy rpg for 10 years+).. I'm also VERY happy to ignore the silly 40k/ARP/BigboobedAsianSchoolgirl ships in this game.

[lup3s]

19 minutes ago, lafeel said:

And torps that can only hit BB's/CV's. Oh and you also got a 70% dpm nerf as compared with Aki.

 

The torps I don't see as an issue .. the slower gun reload I hadn't even noticed you're right though, it's a poor Akizuki - but still I wouldn't say it gets smashed by others. I liked my Fenyang in the few battles I played with her.

[Yedwy]

37 minutes ago, lafeel said:

And torps that can only hit BB's/CV's. Oh and you also got a 70% dpm nerf as compared with Aki.

And improved AP

[lafeel]

4 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

And improved AP

Nowhere near enough to make up for the down sides.

[Yedwy]

2 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Nowhere near enough to make up for the down sides.

True still Its not all bad

[Aethervoxx]

This depends on what you define as 'ship types'.

The game is full if you consider the traditional main navy ship types these being;

 Battleships (BBs)

Cruisers (Cs)

Destroyers (DDs)

Aircraft Carriers (CVs)

Submarines (SSs)

 If one further divides some main ship types you can include;

Battle Cruisers (BCs)

Light cruisers (CLs)

Heavy Cruisers HCs)

There are some other definitions of ship types;

Armoured Cruisers (CAs)

Escort  Aircraft Carriers (CVEs)

There may be other ship types. I do not include Corvettes, Frigates, Minesweepers or Motor Torpedo Boats as these all appear tp be small naval ship types which WoWS ignores entirely.

[Floofz]

4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

This depends on what you define as 'ship types'.

The game is full if you consider the traditional main navy ship types these being;

 Battleships (BBs)

Cruisers (Cs)

Destroyers (DDs)

Aircraft Carriers (CVs)

Submarines (SSs)

 If one further divides some main ship types you can include;

Battle Cruisers (BCs)

Light cruisers (CLs)

Heavy Cruisers HCs)

There are some other definitions of ship types;

Armoured Cruisers (CAs)

Escort  Aircraft Carriers (CVEs)

There may be other ship types. I do not include Corvettes, Frigates, Minesweepers or Motor Torpedo Boats as these all appear tp be small naval ship types which WoWS ignores entirely.

 

Some corrections. There has never been a cruiser designation as C or HC. Its CA or CL. CA being heavy cruiser and yes it comes from "cruiser armored" and CL for "cruiser light".

You also have light carriers called CVL. And you have nuclear carriers and submarines, CVN and SSN, or for submarines you have nuclear ballistic submarines, SSBN, now wouldnt that be a treat lol.

 

Needs to be said thou that these designations are 100% USN.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

It's more like they are running out of game mode variety which, in its turn, would bring ship class variety and, importantly, game play variety into this game.

 

It's almost.. almost as if WG(mz) was not interested in the game itself but only in the profits it yields. Surely, however, this could not be the case...

[Aethervoxx]

11 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

It's almost.. almost as if WG(mz) was not interested in the game itself but only in the profits it yields. Surely, however, this could not be the case...

Surely, not !  How could this be ......?  Surely, you jest .  I'm shocked! 

[Bellegar]

12 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

It's more like they are running out of game mode variety which, in its turn, would bring ship class variety and, importantly, game play variety into this game.

 

It's almost.. almost as if WG(mz) was not interested in the game itself but only in the profits it yields. Surely, however, this could not be the case...

[LastButterfly]

On 12/24/2021 at 11:01 AM, Floofz said:

There has never been a cruiser designation as C or HC. Its CA or CL. CA being heavy cruiser and yes it comes from "cruiser armored" and CL for "cruiser light".

 C did exist as an official designation prior to 1920. It pirmarly designated Protected Cruisers., which were reclassified as CA after the 20s came - at the time, CA litterally meant Cruiser, Armored. Soon enough, the protected cruiser aged and were mostly reclassifyied away from CA or just removed from service ; as such, the designation "CA" became somewhat unused, and thus it was repuprosed for the modern Heavy Cruiser.

[MarChil]

14 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

 Surely, not !  How could this be ......?  Surely, you jest .  I'm shocked! 

WG has lost sight and understanding some time ago. They are about as clueless as a 100 games player in a Yamato. The arrogance and condescending tone of their latest video 'explaining' us that they know best is the prime example of that.  So we should be patient and understanding towards them, they will figure it out in the end. Or not. Until then we can enjoy the fun and engaging things of life. Like watching a netflix series.  

[Padds01]

they ran out after bb and cruiser 

[Floofz]

4 hours ago, LastButterfly said:

 C did exist as an official designation prior to 1920. It pirmarly designated Protected Cruisers., which were reclassified as CA after the 20s came - at the time, CA litterally meant Cruiser, Armored. Soon enough, the protected cruiser aged and were mostly reclassifyied away from CA or just removed from service ; as such, the designation "CA" became somewhat unused, and thus it was repuprosed for the modern Heavy Cruiser.

 

Youre technically right but the last ship to be given the "C" designation was in 1905, before there was a distinction of light and heavy cruisers so. Back then Armored cruisers were called ACR and light cruisers or scout cruisers as they were called were designated with SCR. There has been other designations aswell, for example the Alaska class was called CB. Theres also Command Cruisers called CC or guided missile cruisers with designations like CAG, CLG or CG. USS Long Beach which was a nuclear powered guided missile cruiser was called CGN.

It should also be noted that all of the ships with the previous designations like C, ACR or SCR were later renamed CL or CA.

[Aethervoxx]

2 hours ago, Floofz said:

 

Youre technically right but the last ship to be given the "C" designation was in 1905, before there was a distinction of light and heavy cruisers so. Back then Armored cruisers were called ACR and light cruisers or scout cruisers as they were called were designated with SCR. There has been other designations aswell, for example the Alaska class was called CB. Theres also Command Cruisers called CC or guided missile cruisers with designations like CAG, CLG or CG. USS Long Beach which was a nuclear powered guided missile cruiser was called CGN.

It should also be noted that all of the ships with the previous designations like C, ACR or SCR were later renamed CL or CA.

OK, already ......

[ThePopesHolyFinger]

On 12/24/2021 at 5:22 AM, Aethervoxx said:

This depends on what you define as 'ship types'.

 

I initially titled it as Are WG running out of ship names?

But that didn't sound right, nor did ship class

[LastButterfly]

On 12/25/2021 at 3:47 PM, Floofz said:

Youre technically right

 

No, in this case, I am just right. You said "C" was a classification that never existed. You were wrong. Additionally :

 

On 12/25/2021 at 3:47 PM, Floofz said:

light cruisers or scout cruisers as they were called were designated with SCR

This is also wrong.

The classification used to designate Scout Cruisers was CS. No ordered USN vessel was ever assigned the designation SCR, even temporarily.

Additionally, many designs falling under the classification of Scout Cruiser had nothing to do with Light Cruisers as they were later defined, as scout cruisers could exceed 25kt standard displacement and carry batteries of up to 406mm. Just because the existing CS were reclassified to CL does not mean the two designated the same kind of vessels.

 

On 12/25/2021 at 3:47 PM, Floofz said:

Theres also Command Cruisers called CC

This is also wrong.
In spite of what the letters seem to imply, the designation CC actually means Command Ship, not Command Cruiser. Keep in mind that a refittedSaipan-class was also given the designation.

The designation meaning Command Cruiser is CLC. And yes, Northampton did carry the designation CLC before being reclassfyied to CC. Go tell "same difference" to those who considered it important to reclassify a cruiser from Command Cruiser to Command Ship, not to me.

 

On 12/25/2021 at 3:47 PM, Floofz said:

It should also be noted that all of the ships with the previous designations like C, ACR or SCR were later renamed CL or CA.

This is also wrong - abeit for once, less so in a sense, but still to a degree, so might aswell.

The very vast majority of old ships with designation C, ACR or CS were reclassifyied as CL or CA eventually. A large number of them were classifyied as PG first, however, before being reclassifyied again. USS Marblehead didn't have this chance, as she was stricken as a Gunboat. A few other, such as USS Baltimore, were fitting for minelaying purposes and thus were not reclassfyied as CL or CA? but rather as CM.

 

On 12/25/2021 at 3:47 PM, Floofz said:

There has been other designations aswell

Hundreds in the US navy alone, with multiple designations having different meanings depending on the era. Which is why it would be appreciable if you were to avoid putting out even more examples in your upcoming, slightly-more-confrontational answer, to show the knowledge you don't have. We wouldn't ever see the end of it.