Giuseppe Verdi (Tier IX) for DOUBLOONS ONLY?!

[XDMeloniXD]

Greetings lads,

 

I saw that the Verdi has come out of nda, since C.Carilto made a video on her, but I got suprised to see that she will seemingly only be available for doubloons... Yeah, no free exp, no RB, no coal or steel. Why though? And I know some of you lads are going to go "Oh but the Giuseppe Verdi is basically a trash Marco Polo" or something like that, but I still would like the Verdi... for personal reasons.

 

Have I missed something, is wargaming really only selling Verdi for doubloons or is there "a communication problem" again? Because I sure hope that there will be an alternative way to purchase her that isn't blatantly opening up my wallet.

 

,Cheers

[RenamedUser_92906789]

If you want it go and get it.

Problem?

[mdjmcnally]

Brandenburg seems to be doubloons or cash only as well.

no coal option etc.

 

having, Bismarck, Tirpitz, pommern then seems pointless anyway getting he brandenburg so passing.

 

see if turns up in Santa crates next year.

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

2 hours ago, XDMeloniXD said:

Greetings lads,

 

I saw that the Verdi has come out of nda, since C.Carilto made a video on her, but I got suprised to see that she will seemingly only be available for doubloons... Yeah, no free exp, no RB, no coal or steel. Why though? And I know some of you lads are going to go "Oh but the Giuseppe Verdi is basically a trash Marco Polo" or something like that, but I still would like the Verdi... for personal reasons.

 

Have I missed something, is wargaming really only selling Verdi for doubloons or is there "a communication problem" again? Because I sure hope that there will be an alternative way to purchase her that isn't blatantly opening up my wallet.

 

,Cheers

Did he say that it would be doubloons or did you see it in the tech tree? Because the tech tree price is usually the placeholder resource unless proven otherwise. All tier 9s are 19,300 doubloons.
Not that it really matters, 90% of premiums are both not very good and cash/doubloons only.

[Aragathor]

10 minutes ago, mdjmcnally said:

Brandenburg seems to be doubloons or cash only as well.

Brandenburg is a T8 premium. Verdi is a T9. That's a huge difference.

[Panocek]

Might be new monetization idea, release ship for doubloons first, then for coal/steel/rb/whatever after 3 or so months.

[XDMeloniXD]

22 minutes ago, RenamedUser_92906789 said:

If you want it go and get it.

Problem?

I tend to want to get my tier 9s through the currency that..you know, they are usually available through, not investing like 65€ on it-

[XDMeloniXD]

10 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Might be new monetization idea, release ship for doubloons first, then for coal/steel/rb/whatever after 3 or so months.

You may be right... but if it was so, surely they would announce it in advance,,, to prevent players questioning it?

[Panocek]

Just now, XDMeloniXD said:

You may be right... but if it was so, surely they would announce it in advance,,, to prevent players questioning it?

Have they announced ways of distribution of Verdi to begin with?

[XDMeloniXD]

1 minute ago, Panocek said:

Have they announced ways of distribution of Verdi to begin with?

Carilto and The Daily bounce just said it will be available for doubloons in the armoury, and for money in the premium shop-

[XDMeloniXD]

18 minutes ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

Did he say that it would be doubloons or did you see it in the tech tree?

He said it would be doubloons, the Daily Bounce has also expressed it.

[Jvd2000]

8 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Might be new monetization idea, release ship for doubloons first, then for coal/steel/rb/whatever after 3 or so months.

Looking at her stats, taking into account the non enjoyment I had playing Italian BB’s in general ( GC excluded) and the fact I FXP up to C. Columbo to end the pain I can wait very long . Marco Polo dropped in a Santa crate and not yet even bothered to get the snowflake.

 

Doubloons for this? Never. This is at best a very meh ship, like we before had many at T8 ( Tiger, Belfast 43) that spoil the Santa pool that you have to whale first before getting into the good ships…

 

Currency does not matter: mediocre ship remains mediocre ship.  For sure being a free currency would mean she would end up on the shopping list in the end due to being the oldest ship remaining. For outright doubloons.. haha.. no.

[Hakssor]

Her stats don't matter. I think it's intended for her to be mediocre just so less players will complain about it. But she will be the precedent for future T9 ships released only for doubloons and WG can say "we've done it before". Also they can buff her later if the sales are not good for her. Balance changes work in both ways.

[Animalul2012]

Next is Incomparable sold  only for doubloons. Verdi needs better secondary dispersion pattern, should have been identical to that of german BBs or perhaps a special overhaul where secondaries aim for the armor place that they can penetrate and not at the usual 200-500 mm belt.

[Lootboxer]

To be fair it is their game and they can whatever they want for whatever they want. They sold already T10 ships for gold (ARP Yama, Yoshino B, plus indirectly PR and other dockyards ships) so what's the deal with T9s? I don't care as long as those are not OP vessels necessarily for competetive. And let's face it, it is just a matter of time. But by then I will be gone.

[Seraphice]

1 hour ago, RuruushuVuiBuritania said:

Did he say that it would be doubloons or did you see it in the tech tree? Because the tech tree price is usually placeholder unless proven otherwise.
Not that it really matters, 90% of premiums are both not very good and cash/doubloons only.

All tier 9 premiums are 19 300 doubloons.

 

1 hour ago, XDMeloniXD said:

Greetings lads,

 

I saw that the Verdi has come out of nda, since C.Carilto made a video on her, but I got suprised to see that she will seemingly only be available for doubloons... Yeah, no free exp, no RB, no coal or steel. Why though? And I know some of you lads are going to go "Oh but the Giuseppe Verdi is basically a trash Marco Polo" or something like that, but I still would like the Verdi... for personal reasons.

 

Have I missed something, is wargaming really only selling Verdi for doubloons or is there "a communication problem" again? Because I sure hope that there will be an alternative way to purchase her that isn't blatantly opening up my wallet.

 

,Cheers

It is indeed only available for doubloons. It was never said all T9 premiums would always be obtainable for free in-game resources. Even so, you can in fact, eventually get enough free doubloons to get Guiseppe Verdi through for example ranked.
 

19 minutes ago, Animalul2012 said:

Next is Incomparable sold  only for doubloons. Verdi needs better secondary dispersion pattern, should have been identical to that of german BBs or perhaps a special overhaul where secondaries aim for the armor place that they can penetrate and not at the usual 200-500 mm belt.

I can spoil it for you now, she will not be available for doubloons.

 

Fair seas captains!
~Sera

[Verblonde]

40 minutes ago, Hakssor said:

Her stats don't matter. I think it's intended for her to be mediocre just so less players will complain about it. But she will be the precedent for future T9 ships released only for doubloons and WG can say "we've done it before".

I suspect you're right; now that they're an established 'thing', it makes commercial sense to release 'money only' premiums at T9.

 

They're in the process of trying something similar in WOT: so far, there has only been one true T9 premium (Strv K), and that was - deliberately? - somewhat underwhelming (although I quite like it - it's like a rather tubby Centurion), presumably to avoid the inevitable howls of protest if they'd released something more powerful.

 

I imagine WG are going to be *very* cautious about releasing OP monsters at T9; 'may be nerfed' labels be damned - the protests would be deafening if they ever nerfed a 55 UKP (or whatever they cost) premium that people paid real money for...

[Panocek]

9 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

I imagine WG are going to be *very* cautious about releasing OP monsters at T9; 'may be nerfed' labels be damned - the protests would be deafening if they ever nerfed a 55 UKP (or whatever they cost) premium that people paid real money for...

One would have guessed WG would learn their lesson after Kutuzov and Belfast debacles, but Missouri, Kronshtadt, Musashi, Alaska, Georgia, Jean Bart, Smolensk, Thunderer, Smaland says otherwise

 

Or rather, only relatively recently they started churning out ships that can be charitably described as "balanced". "Mediocre" if you want to be bit more blunt which only highlight value of older, more potent ships.

[Verblonde]

9 minutes ago, Panocek said:

One would have guessed WG would learn their lesson after Kutuzov and Belfast debacles

WG and learning do seem to be somewhat mutually exclusive (perhaps it's something to do with over-enthusiastic trips to Madam Olga's)...!

 

For instance, they seem to have learned a bit from the CV reework debacle, so the forcing of submarines is happening over a longer period of time by comparison; on the other hand, they haven't cancelled the current submarines (to go away and re-think), which means that they aren't yet learning from others' mistakes (WOT/Rubicon). To be fair though, the latter ability (learning from observation) is only found in more advanced organisms; some cephalopods can do it though...

[Shirakami_Kon]

1 hour ago, XDMeloniXD said:

You may be right... but if it was so, surely they would announce it in advance,,, to prevent players questioning it?

No, their idea is getting you to spend on it, not to just wait until you can get it for free using a resource for just playing the game. Monetization systems like that prey on uncertainty like that or sheer eagerness of the costumer to get the thing. Just think about it, what would they win by just telling you that if you wait X time you can get it for free?

[KillStealBoss]

30 minutes ago, Seraphice said:

All tier 9 premiums are 19 300 doubloons.

But it's the 1st one to be only for dubs. No other option available. Really sad. 

[KillStealBoss]

29 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

I suspect you're right; now that they're an established 'thing', it makes commercial sense to release 'money only' premiums at T9.

 

They're in the process of trying something similar in WOT: so far, there has only been one true T9 premium (Strv K), and that was - deliberately? - somewhat underwhelming (although I quite like it - it's like a rather tubby Centurion), presumably to avoid the inevitable howls of protest if they'd released something more powerful.

 

I imagine WG are going to be *very* cautious about releasing OP monsters at T9; 'may be nerfed' labels be damned - the protests would be deafening if they ever nerfed a 55 UKP (or whatever they cost) premium that people paid real money for...

Well because they're now going to push T11 ships then the T9 will become the new T8. And T8s mostly are only for cash. This is so bad. 

[Verblonde]

6 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Well because they're now going to push T11 ships then the T9 will become the new T8. And T8s mostly are only for cash. This is so bad. 

I think you're right; WG probably have an eye to the long game here - they have a valuable property, and want to get the maximum lifespan out of it. To do that requires all this T11 nonsense, but there are a couple of things - IMO - that WG need to overcome:

 

• All the T11s so far are made up (I think); too much of that and we're into full-on fantasy territory, and that's not the same game at all.
• Fifty-five bloody quid! Do WG really think they have volume consumers for that sort of price-point?!

[asalonen]

36 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

But it's the 1st one to be only for dubs. No other option available. Really sad. 

Wasn't Jean Bart initially for doubloons? I remember being called a wallet warrior when I acquired it on day 1...

[gslick]

45 minutes ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

Just think about it, what would they win by just telling you that if you wait X time you can get it for free?

Not sure it would cost them anything.  There seem to be lots of people who will spend real money (doubloons basically real money) to obtain a tech tree ship a couple of months sooner in the early releases WG has been doing.  And how much did people bid in the lighthouse auction for the tier 10 BB?

38 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

But it's the 1st one to be only for dubs. No other option available. Really sad. 

Agree that it is sad, but in retrospect the writing has been on the wall for some time.  There is no sleazy trick WG will not pull no implied promise they will not break in order to make an extra euro.  Prediction:  In 2022 we will see tier X ships on sale in the armory for doubloons along with the ability to obtain by coal or steel.   WG may (and I emphasize the may) wait until 2023 before doing a strictly for money only tier X.