Question to CV players

[ReapingKnight]

Hello my enemies!

 

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)...He was right back dropping me within 30 seconds but still complained.

 

Do you agree that a ship managing to defend itself from one attack by using it's consumables is unfair to you CV players?

 

Thanks,

[Wulf_Ace]

as a CV player, you are not funny at all.

[Aragathor]

20 minutes ago, ReapingKnight said:

Hello my enemies!

 

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)...He was right back dropping me within 30 seconds but still complained.

 

Do you agree that a ship managing to defend itself from one attack by using it's consumables is unfair to you CV players?

 

Thanks,

This case shows that many CV mains don't understand that the game has counterplay. They are like bullies that are surprised someone punches back and it hurts.

A really skilled CV player would hover around your spotting range and wait for you to either smoke up or get deleted by his team.

[Kr1gsG4ldr]

1 ora fa, ReapingKnight ha scritto:

Hello my enemies!

 

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)...He was right back dropping me within 30 seconds but still complained.

 

Do you agree that a ship managing to defend itself from one attack by using it's consumables is unfair to you CV players?

 

Thanks,

Personally, it could be a little "annoying" but honestly i think it adds more challenge especially when your cv is in a bottom tier match vs higher tiers, plus it's without any doubt right for ships to try to defend themselves from us sky cancers with what they can at their disposal.

Quite the contrary, sometimes i'm just surprised that the ship i'm striking doesn't active def aa consumable and i know he could activate it.

1 ora fa, Aragathor ha scritto:

A really skilled CV player would hover around your spotting range and wait for you to either smoke up or get deleted by his team.

Or, if the situation allows it, rushing him in a close quarter, many peoples doesn't expect it and go always in panic

[Nibenay78]

1 hour ago, Wulf_Ace said:

as a CV player, you are not funny at all.

as a CV player, it's outright hilarious.

[El2aZeR]

4 hours ago, ReapingKnight said:

Do you agree that a ship managing to defend itself from one attack by using it's consumables is unfair to you CV players?

 

Unfortunately not being fair is what the CV rework is all about to begin with.

[Yedwy]

8 hours ago, ReapingKnight said:

Hello my enemies!

 

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)...He was right back dropping me within 30 seconds but still complained.

 

Do you agree that a ship managing to defend itself from one attack by using it's consumables is unfair to you CV players?

 

Thanks,

He is a griefer, he wants to kick puppies in his free time, just ignore him...

[Purnylla]

9 hours ago, ReapingKnight said:

Hello my enemies!

 

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)...He was right back dropping me within 30 seconds but still complained.

 

Do you agree that a ship managing to defend itself from one attack by using it's consumables is unfair to you CV players?

 

Thanks,

 

As a CV player, I've very quickly learned to stay away from Groningen. Roughly 6km away. Costed me a squardron to learn my lesson, but isn't that how human learn? :P

 

Obviously it's ridiculous that he reported you for using game mechanics, just as it's silly to report players from playing CV in the first place. But oh well, some people do silly things. 

[Lieut_Gruber]

11 hours ago, Aragathor said:

This case shows that many CV mains don't understand that the game has counterplay. They are like bullies that are surprised someone punches back and it hurts.

A really skilled CV player would hover around your spotting range and wait for you to either smoke up or get deleted by his team.

But how can the Cv counter the Groningen AA? He can not know where the DD is until it’s too late, losing an entire squadron. Would be more fair if AA range = plane spotting range.

[Padds01]

over the last few years weve seen nerf and change stack up and  this particular issue is one ive vented about before it exists because of a compound of nerfs and i think WG didnt realise it was going to happen because they did take a step to undo it which ofc failed utterly. 

 

When DD's actually had a counter we got a hurricane of pss over the forums and social media , spotting range by air dropped to 2km thought they can still see planes out to 10km becuse ya know physics isnt a thing ;) reticle nerfs, wind up attack times so anyone who isnt asleep can simply walk slowly out of the attack and most rocket planes simply can not spot then attack a dd, flak visibility being tied to the ship that fired its visibility status meaning you get bugged invisible flak, the aa gunners can still accurately pick put maneuvering planes through smoke , but AA fire is diffused so you cant even aim at the shell start points like the surface ships can.

 

so we sit in a situation where its reversed and entire squads can be wiped out (tier 8) by an ambush you cant do anything about and as no counterplay was the main cry of the DD's players they are out in force looking for it to be redressed and fixed , because they spent years claiming thats what they wanted, you hardly hear any gloating or bait threads , becaus e they werent whining about having a counter they were concerned about the quality of the game

[AkerJack]

Just ,kid thinking that CV should be invulnerable, crying. I use CVs too but I know when and who attack and of I get my squadron smashed I don't accuse the defender to use AA def...

 

Just go over it

[arquata2019_]

11 ore fa, ReapingKnight ha scritto:

Hello my enemies!

 

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)...He was right back dropping me within 30 seconds but still complained.

 

That's a CV after all, you can't do much. Yeah, you can still be killed in ships that have good AA, unfortunately.

 

12 ore fa, Aragathor ha scritto:

A really skilled CV player would hover around your spotting range and wait for you to either smoke up or get deleted by his team.

Depends on the situation, but i'd simply go blast him.

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

But how can the Cv counter the Groningen AA? He can not know where the DD is until it’s too late, losing an entire squadron. Would be more fair if AA range = plane spotting range.

Best way to counter, is to not get in there at all. 

 

You can sort of guess where he is. Same as a Halland. 

There are some typical spots where they usually are sitting. 

I always use rocket planes to try find out (cause rockets most worthless).

Then after that come back (his DefAA is now finished) and torp them if I must do it (usually... useless teams...).

 

Yeah sometimes I get whacked too by one that is where I do not expect him.

Which also means he is at a spot where he is useless, or where my team will kill him soon.

 

 

[hellhound666]

13 hours ago, ReapingKnight said:

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)

how the fck dare you to harass cv player ...

dont you know how to turn aa off

players like you should be allowed coop only with agincourt ...

and you were rightfully reported!

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

1 hour ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

But how can the Cv counter the Groningen AA? He can not know where the DD is until it’s too late, losing an entire squadron. Would be more fair if AA range = plane spotting range.

Learn map awareness and common DD routes and stop flying all over the place willy nilly as if you own the sea if you see a Groningen is on the enemy team or any ship you see as a risk. This is basic tactical awareness any surface ships has to take into account, and so should carrier players. All a carrier loses is a squadron, a DD making a mistake like that is send to port. 

 

Do we really have to explain all these simple basic tactics again and again?

[Lieut_Gruber]

26 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Learn map awareness and common DD routes and stop flying all over the place willy nilly as if you own the sea if you see a Groningen is on the enemy team or any ship you see as a risk. This is basic tactical awareness any surface ships has to take into account, and so should carrier players. All a carrier loses is a squadron, a DD making a mistake like that is send to port. 

 

Do we really have to explain all these simple basic tactics again and again?

Ok, being a complete noob, can you explain me the ‘common dd routes’ for the full 20 min of battle? Thanks in advance 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

48 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

Ok, being a complete noob, can you explain me the ‘common dd routes’ for the full 20 min of battle? Thanks in advance 

Sigh. 

 

You dont have to know the common routes for the complete 20 minutes per match on all maps because the Groningen will undoubtedly be spotted within a couple of minutes by surface ships or you from a safe distance. Either because it fires its guns or starts smoking up and spam from that. So you will know the sector where it is lurking from that point on, even if it gets unspotted after that. The ship will get spotted regularly as it is a gunboat, so with a little map awareness you can easily avoid being trapped. Seeing it's last know position, looking at possible targets for it, caps that are open or need defending, you will be able to predict where it will most likely hang around.

 

All you need to know are the most common starting routes for DD's. And since you have over 16k battles under your belt, I'm going to assume your request was more about being snarky, then it being an honest question. If you know there are ships that you need to look out for, you should take care in where you are flying, instead of zombie mode going whatever you feel like and get salty when your squadron runs into an AA trap. Just like any other ship with vulnourabilities. And god knows carriers already have little of those. 

 

Git Gud if you aren't already.

[lovelacebeer]

Being reported for being hard to kill is sadly nothing new I collect reports like crazy from CV players when I’m in the HMS Hood and her AA really isn’t anything to write home about even with the AA consumable.

[Lieut_Gruber]

3 hours ago, Europizza said:

Sigh. 

 

You dont have to know the common routes for the complete 20 minutes per match on all maps because the Groningen will undoubtedly be spotted within a couple of minutes by surface ships or you from a safe distance. Either because it fires its guns or starts smoking up and spam from that. So you will know the sector where it is lurking from that point on, even if it gets unspotted after that. The ship will get spotted regularly as it is a gunboat, so with a little map awareness you can easily avoid being trapped. Seeing it's last know position, looking at possible targets for it, caps that are open or need defending, you will be able to predict where it will most likely hang around.

 

All you need to know are the most common starting routes for DD's. And since you have over 16k battles under your belt, I'm going to assume your request was more about being snarky, then it being an honest question. If you know there are ships that you need to look out for, you should take care in where you are flying, instead of zombie mode going whatever you feel like and get salty when your squadron runs into an AA trap. Just like any other ship with vulnourabilities. And god knows carriers already have little of those. 

 

Git Gud if you aren't already.

Ok sorry I made you type a wall of text, git gud  at sarcasm.

[El2aZeR]

7 hours ago, Lieut_Gruber said:

He can not know where the DD is until it’s too late, losing an entire squadron.

 

Spotting indicator and basic minimap awareness prevents you from ever being ambushed.

No AA in the game is capable of killing an entire squad before you are able to retaliate. In fact mathematically speaking a full AA Groningen with DFAA active still needs almost 20 seconds to kill a full Shokaku rocket squad. If you cannot retaliate in that amount of time that's your own problem - which can be said about pretty much every aspect of CV play you are having problems with.

[ClappingLollies]

15 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Unfortunately not being fair is what the CV rework is all about to begin with.

Thought it was to make the CV's more fun to play and play against.

I think they nailed it. So much fun to play. And everyone thinks its fun being bitchslapped by CV's with little to no counterplay. Right? 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

21 hours ago, ReapingKnight said:

Hello my enemies!

 

I had a CV player report me and claim that it was unfair that I in the Groningen using the sector select and DFF killed one squard (only) of his skip bombers (tier 8)...He was right back dropping me within 30 seconds but still complained.

 

Do you agree that a ship managing to defend itself from one attack by using it's consumables is unfair to you CV players?

 

Thanks,

I don't understand what response you want.

You won't be defending yourself against good CV players, maybe mitigating damage but certainly not killing their squads just like that. He was just a bad player.

[guy_incognito79]

Given that the AA in this game is pathetic, any CV player that loses a squadron to it with dealing any damage is even worse and should really git gud or uninstall... preferably the latter.  

[JoeSparkx]

I always laugh when CV's cry at DD's having effective AA. It's a reversal of the bullying CV's have been doing to DD's for years. 

 

All those black clouds? Just Dodge. DD's have had to learn to Just Dodge CV harassment, its only fair CV mains get it thrown back at them.

 

TLDR; Just Dodge.

[MahmutCan58_1]

18.12.2021 saat 12:18'de, Purnylla dedi:

 

As a CV player, I've very quickly learned to stay away from Groningen. Roughly 6km away. Costed me a squardron to learn my lesson, but isn't that how human learn? :P

 

Obviously it's ridiculous that he reported you for using game mechanics, just as it's silly to report players from playing CV in the first place. But oh well, some people do silly things. 

I agree with you.