[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #1 Posted December 12, 2021 4 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted December 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said: Bravo WG, slow clapping... 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-FWS-] Ocrooch [-FWS-] Beta Tester 119 posts 18,940 battles Report post #3 Posted December 12, 2021 Flamu provided 100% reproducibility method in case WG community managers come back and ask for more logs: Survivability Expert Bugged! Reduces Survivability?? Any chance to get a job in WG test department? This must be heaven. By end effect, they must be doing nothing (players will flush any bugs anyway) and still taking salary home I presume? 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VIBES] tocqueville8 Players 3,717 posts 39,407 battles Report post #4 Posted December 12, 2021 So...can I get a free respec? 5 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,376 battles Report post #5 Posted December 12, 2021 Ohhh ffs 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zieten Beta Tester 298 posts 6,940 battles Report post #6 Posted December 12, 2021 in honor of their excellent code, they should rename the game into " New World of Warships " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BURZA] Montrala Players 514 posts 18,034 battles Report post #7 Posted December 12, 2021 And I was wondering since Thursday why I suddenly die so fast in my Mogador. My WR went into red in 3 days.... @MrConway @Crysantos anybody home? 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,234 battles Report post #8 Posted December 12, 2021 Apparently this is about the Survivability Expert bug (the links in the first few posts are not displayed correctly and link up nothing for me.) I finally bought a Marceau this patch and had been getting the impression it seemed strangely squishy, taking a lot more damage than I had been led to expect it would. Transcribing some of the commentary by way of explanation: "Normally, parts of your ship have different health pools, and after these health pools run out from taking damage, you only take half the damage for any more hits there. That's why you see the damage drop to half when I shoot saturated parts of the ship. And the gimmick of the French DDs in particular is that parts of the ship saturate much more quickly than on other ships. This gives them much more survivability for the same amount of hitpoints since the protection effect by damage saturation is achieved so much sooner. But what is going on with the SE captain skill right now is that WG have spaghetti-coded it in such a way that it adds the extra health to every section of the ship. You get x amount extra health on the bow, the same extra amount on the stern, and also on the superstructure, which means that all these parts of the ship are now taking a much greater amount of damage until they reach damage saturation and the protection effect kicks in. So that means that the whole gimmick that gives the French DDs their tankiness, does not work any more if you run the Survivability Expert captain skill." (...) "And you note that I am not breaking any torpedo tubes or turrets despite hitting them over and over again, because this patch you also somehow cannot break modules for some reason." (....) "Survivability Expert actively nerfs DD survivability right now. And this concerns DDs from every nation. All DDs and indeed all ships have the saturation mechanic. It's just that DDs benefit more heavily from it than the other types, and French DDs even more heavily yet." I guess it was just a lot more important for Wargaming to rework the audio again and add wavier waves and erupting volcanoes, not to forget brand new premium ships, none of which any players asked for, rather than do the bare minimum of quality assurance, which every player wants. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MUMMY] rage1750 Players 824 posts 11,400 battles Report post #9 Posted December 12, 2021 This is all propaganda by those that are fortunate enough not to be disabled and have jobs; namely those that did not get Puerto Rico. Spreadsheet says there is nothing to see here, move along please 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,175 battles Report post #10 Posted December 12, 2021 Yeah this sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #11 Posted December 12, 2021 Not affecting CV and SS. Planned to be fixed in 2024, comrades. 2 13 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #12 Posted December 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Montrala said: And I was wondering since Thursday why I suddenly die so fast in my Mogador. My WR went into red in 3 days.... Yeah....It was a bit strange sinking in da Petro dd's left and right since the update. And I thought that I'm gitgutting... :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #13 Posted December 12, 2021 So, for the slow kids (me!), is it just the French that take a kicking from this bug, or all DDs? I hadn't noticed a drastic problem, but I've been playing entirely non-French DDs lately, and I'm sufficiently rubbish that telling the difference between a bug and me just being my usual hopeless self can be troublesome sometimes... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #14 Posted December 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: "And you note that I am not breaking any torpedo tubes or turrets despite hitting them over and over again, because this patch you also somehow cannot break modules for some reason." Btw it was also very strange that I was struggling damaging frenchie BB gun turrets. In da Petro..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,234 battles Report post #15 Posted December 12, 2021 Vor 2 Minuten, Verblonde sagte: So, for the slow kids (me!), is it just the French that take a kicking from this bug, or all DDs? It's all DDs. Only the French draw the biggest benefit from the saturation effect and thus the bug hits them the hardest. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #16 Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: It's all DDs. Only the French draw the biggest benefit from the saturation effect and thus the bug hits them the hardest. Many thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #17 Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Verblonde said: So, for the slow kids (me!), is it just the French that take a kicking from this bug, or all DDs? I hadn't noticed a drastic problem, but I've been playing entirely non-French DDs lately, and I'm sufficiently rubbish that telling the difference between a bug and me just being my usual hopeless self can be troublesome sometimes... All destroyers, but Croissants suffer particularly from it, as earlier saturation is their gimmick. And that explains why DD engagements, both on receiving and giving ends felt kinda off 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-E] FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor Players 3,532 posts 29,234 battles Report post #18 Posted December 12, 2021 Gerade eben, Andrewbassg sagte: Btw it was also very strange that I was struggling damaging frenchie BB gun turrets. In da Petro..... The turrets on my brand spanking new Lenin from the Satan box break just fine. (I took Aux Armaments Mod 1 instead of Main Armaments Mod 1 for an experiment.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BURZA] Montrala Players 514 posts 18,034 battles Report post #19 Posted December 12, 2021 And now when I see 17900hp Shima I think "he knows!" 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #20 Posted December 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, FixCVs_Nautical_Metaphor said: The turrets on my brand spanking new Lenin from the Satan box break just fine. (I took Aux Armaments Mod 1 instead of Main Armaments Mod 1 for an experiment.) Temporarily disabled or permanently destroyed, because thats massive difference. Former is dice roll whenever module takes damage, latter requires module hp depletion to 0 Main guns are very much breakable, but torps or secondaries to no avail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GG-EZ] ihan_paras_nimi Players 226 posts Report post #21 Posted December 12, 2021 "Secondaries, torpedo tubes and AA guns become indestructible." Affects CVs. Will be patched asap. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossijskijAxisFlot Players 683 posts 4,171 battles Report post #22 Posted December 12, 2021 HAHAHAHA this is a "complot" against DD mafia, I love it 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NORKS] Matt_FSR Players 166 posts 13,451 battles Report post #23 Posted December 12, 2021 If they had any decency, this would come Monday morning with a WG launcher article to a game-wide free captain reset button, allowing all DD captains to temporarily drop SE from their skills, until the bug is fixed. But they don't have a scrap of decency, so my bet is we get absolutely nothing. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POILU] Sink_Different Players 348 posts 23,777 battles Report post #24 Posted December 12, 2021 At this point anyone could be forgiven for thinking WG staff are utterly incompetent. I am really curious what change to the game cascaded into that bug. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OZYR] Andrewbassg Players 3,800 posts 25,813 battles Report post #25 Posted December 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, AxisMarine said: HAHAHAHA this is a "complot" against DD mafia, I love it No. Its a complot against Cv's. Cocooned by Wedgie.....erm....This is getting confusing now.... edit: Still summa summarum Wedgie is doing Wegie things...... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
