[DEFR] SolanumTuberosumRex Players 799 posts Report post #1 Posted December 10, 2021 It wasn't that long ago I unlocked GK, and I hoped to never have to look at the T9 who shall remain nameless ever again. But I do want Preussen, and I thought I'd spread the misery over a longer period of time, and just get on with it. But I can't. I don't know why I keep telling myself that Gneisenau is bad, but FdG is worse I think. I have her specced for max accuracy (😂) but even at 6 km's I have no problems perfectly straddling another massive BB without hitting it even once - repeatedly. FOR F*CK'S SAKE WARGAMING WHY?!?!?! There is no redeeming factor to compensate for this lack of accuracy. Why are German BB's not allowed to hit other ships with their main guns?? The original German BB line will be DEAD as soon as the new one becomes main stream, which should be quite soon now. Imagine people never playing ships that actually existed, preferring made-up ones because pragmatically, they are better ships. I will get Preussen, if it kills me, and it probably will. Maybe working my way through the other line will lift my spirit a little. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VuilbaardGames Players 66 posts 642 battles Report post #2 Posted December 10, 2021 ? You get the Preussen when you have the GK unlocked, so what are you on about? 2 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #3 Posted December 10, 2021 Yup, if you unlocked the GK you will get the Pruissen automatically, even if you dont have it in port I think? As for the FDG, Im currently doing a FDG speedrun due to a RB double reset. The Gneis WR was horrible, the ship itself allright. Love the Bismark always have, killed 2 Schlieffens with it even. The FDG is kinda going okay for me atmo (div with clanmates only though). Total MEME 2ndary build. Getting 4 kills per match regularly and a kraken. Damage mediocre, wobbeling between 80 and 130 usually. I try to fight within 10 - 15 km constantly while using close by island groups to block out most of the enemy team. Not a BB main or anything, and the clanmates do help a lot. As for an accuracy build on the FDG, I don't beleive in trying to compensate for the worst aspects of a ship. I usually build to push it's strengths, so an accuracy build for FDG might be wasted points? Not sure if these tips make sense though, I might not be a qualified help on this. My last match of today. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VVTR] Dazza4x4 [VVTR] Players 66 posts 16,712 battles Report post #4 Posted December 10, 2021 The way i read it was, you got the GK, but had to regrind to the Prus. Will be gutted if i have suffered through 260k of the FDG turd for nothing 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padds01 Players 855 posts 7,546 battles Report post #5 Posted December 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, PsychoClownfish said: The original German BB line will be DEAD as soon as the new one becomes main stream, which should be quite soon now. Imagine people never playing ships that actually existed, preferring made-up ones because pragmatically, they are better ships. new line is like the old ones in term of accuracy , reminds me of how they used to be back before those main gun buffs a year or more ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COOOP] Shirakami_Kon Players 2,624 posts 12,776 battles Report post #6 Posted December 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, VuilbaardGames said: ? You get the Preussen when you have the GK unlocked, so what are you on about? You need to regrind the FDG to get Preussen. You don't get it for free. What you get for Preussen if you had it on GK already is the permacamo for it as compensation. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #7 Posted December 10, 2021 If your will to live depends on a crappy game... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #8 Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, VuilbaardGames said: You get the Preussen when you have the GK unlocked, so what are you on about? 1 minute ago, Europizza said: Yup, if you unlocked the GK you will get the Pruissen automatically, even if you dont have it in port I think? As for the FDG, Im currently doing a FDG speedrun due to a RB double reset. The Gneis WR was horrible, the ship itself allright. Love the Bismark always have, killed 2 Schlieffens with it even. The FDG is kinda going okay for me atmo (div with clanmates only though). Total MEME 2ndary build. Getting 4 kills per match regularly and a kraken. Damage mediocre, wobbeling between 80 and 130 usually. I try to fight within 10 - 15 km constantly while using close by island groups to block out most of the enemy team. Not a BB main or anything, and the clanmates do help a lot. Not sure if these tips make sense? NO GK is the one that only needs to be researched and then you'll have her added to your account when it's replaced; on the other hand, you'll have to grind Preussen from scratch. as far as FdG tho, i had quite some fun it her, she's not the best T9, but you can have fun it her. (having a weeb cpt might have helped) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #9 Posted December 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said: NO GK is the one that only needs to be researched and then you'll have her added to your account when it's replaced; on the other hand, you'll have to grind Preussen from scratch. as far as FdG tho, i had quite some fun it her, she's not the best T9, but you can have fun it her. (having a weeb cpt might have helped) Oh. Thanks for the heads up. Okay so how about my scenario: I have the GK unlocked years ago but have reset the line and am now at FDG again. If I do not unlock the GK yet a second time (because I already unlocked it before) do I receive the Special GK version when the swap happens, or not? If I do I'd better keep the FDG XP so I can unlock Pruissen instantly when the swap happens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #10 Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Europizza said: Oh. Thanks for the heads up. Okay so how about my scenario: I have the GK unlocked years ago but have reset the line and am now at FDG again. If I do not unlock the GK yet a second time (because I already unlocked it before) do I receive the Special GK version when the swap happens, or not? If I do I'd better keep the FDG XP so I can unlock Pruissen instantly when the swap happens? You only need to have researched GK once, if you're reset the line, you'll still have GK. So keep FdG XP for Preussen https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-the-tech-tree/ " If you already own these ships, you will not lose them—they will stay on your account. If you have already researched one of these ships but haven't yet purchased her, or if you sold her, or if you reset the branch, then the ship will be added to your account. " 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDOW] VenividiviciNL Players 595 posts 35,389 battles Report post #11 Posted December 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said: You only need to have researched GK once, if you're reset the line, you'll still have GK. So keep FdG XP for Preussen https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-the-tech-tree/ " If you already own these ships, you will not lose them—they will stay on your account. If you have already researched one of these ships but haven't yet purchased her, or if you sold her, or if you reset the branch, then the ship will be added to your account. " Correct, but in order to get the Preussen you really have to grind the needed XP again, like we once did for the GK. The same is applicable for the Khabarovks. Only perma camouflage will be given to the new ship if you have one on the current tier X. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #12 Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, VenividiviciNL said: Correct, but in order to get the Preussen you really have to grind the needed XP again, like we once did for the GK. The same is applicable for the Khabarovks. Only perma camouflage will be given to the new ship if you have one on the current tier X. yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Bindolaf_Werebane Players 1,387 posts 12,045 battles Report post #13 Posted December 10, 2021 Just use free XP. I did the first time and will do so a second time. It's a currency I get for playing ships I actually like, I don't mind spending it to skip utter lemons like FdG. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossijskijAxisFlot Players 683 posts 4,171 battles Report post #14 Posted December 10, 2021 Sovetskij Soyuz go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, by far the best tier IX BB to me. After playing this soviet monster, I don't even consider other Tier IX BBs, FDG what ? I've never heard of such thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BODEM] FukushuNL Players 1,235 posts 8,476 battles Report post #15 Posted December 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, AxisMarine said: Sovetskij Soyuz go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, by far the best tier IX BB to me. After playing this soviet monster, I don't even consider other Tier IX BBs, FDG what ? I've never heard of such thing I really wonder why the Sov does that. Has it got machine gun turrets? Is it cold? Is it an airplane? Has it got a mopet engine? Edit: the FdG ain't that bad imo. Sturdy, good secondaries and bit of a upstart main gun wise. I like her. She does well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #16 Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, wot_2016_gunner said: You only need to have researched GK once, if you're reset the line, you'll still have GK. So keep FdG XP for Preussen https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-the-tech-tree/ " If you already own these ships, you will not lose them—they will stay on your account. If you have already researched one of these ships but haven't yet purchased her, or if you sold her, or if you reset the branch, then the ship will be added to your account. " So as a last question: So I leave the GK unresearched with its research points still active on it, what happens with those research points when the ship gets moved? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDOW] VenividiviciNL Players 595 posts 35,389 battles Report post #17 Posted December 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, Europizza said: So as a last question: So I leave the GK unresearched with its research points still active on it, what happens with those research points when the ship gets moved? Check Khaba topic..i believe Yabba replied on it and wrote something that the RP grind on GK moves to the Preussen. Just to be sure let Yabba reply again on your question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEFR] SolanumTuberosumRex Players 799 posts Report post #18 Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Europizza said: Yup, if you unlocked the GK you will get the Pruissen automatically, even if you dont have it in port I think? As for the FDG, Im currently doing a FDG speedrun due to a RB double reset. The Gneis WR was horrible, the ship itself allright. Love the Bismark always have, killed 2 Schlieffens with it even. The FDG is kinda going okay for me atmo (div with clanmates only though). Total MEME 2ndary build. Getting 4 kills per match regularly and a kraken. Damage mediocre, wobbeling between 80 and 130 usually. I try to fight within 10 - 15 km constantly while using close by island groups to block out most of the enemy team. Not a BB main or anything, and the clanmates do help a lot. As for an accuracy build on the FDG, I don't beleive in trying to compensate for the worst aspects of a ship. I usually build to push it's strengths, so an accuracy build for FDG might be wasted points? Not sure if these tips make sense though, I might not be a qualified help on this. My last match of today. Good for you man, I hated her the first time. But you may have a point in building to her strengths. 👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEFR] SolanumTuberosumRex Players 799 posts Report post #19 Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, VuilbaardGames said: ? You get the Preussen when you have the GK unlocked, so what are you on about? No. You get GK but now as a Special. You have to regrind for Preussen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEFR] SolanumTuberosumRex Players 799 posts Report post #20 Posted December 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Padds01 said: new line is like the old ones in term of accuracy , reminds me of how they used to be back before those main gun buffs a year or more ago From the stats, the accuracy is a lot better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EZKIL] Sir_Sinksalot Players 1,510 posts 8,248 battles Report post #21 Posted December 10, 2021 I took the FdG grind recently and have no idea why it gets such negative press. The stock guns(still 406mm) reload faster than any other BB I've played plus they are not bad for accuracy either even with a full secondary build so I don't know where that claim comes from. Is there some T9 BB with God like accuracy I've not yet played? The Izuma has good accuracy but it's pretty limited by comparison. The FdG also has pretty damn good secondaries when using IFHE and secondary equipment. It's a fairly tanky ship too and excellent for putting pressure down a flank no matter what ships it faces other than maybe the likes of a Yamato. I don't think this ships ever had a bad performance when I played it with just a little sense and not full yolo. So ya, those fast reloading mains combined with those excellent secondary guns, tank armor, good speed, hydro... strong AA... I can't really hate on this ship. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #22 Posted December 10, 2021 FdG isn't the best battleboat out there, but she's definitely playable, enjoyable even with IFHE'd secondaries blazing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,598 battles Report post #23 Posted December 10, 2021 Hi all, I have just re-grinded my FdG in" Arms race"... it was fast, fun and easy! Leo "Apollo11" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EZKIL] Sir_Sinksalot Players 1,510 posts 8,248 battles Report post #24 Posted December 10, 2021 Btw just to clarify. Do I only need to unlock the Freddie or do I also need to unlock all the FdG modules such as top guns and engine? I'd hate to unlock the T10, carry on playing other ships and then NOT get the T10 cometh the switchover simply because I never bothered unlocking a few modules on the FdG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EZKIL] Sir_Sinksalot Players 1,510 posts 8,248 battles Report post #25 Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 4:20 PM, PsychoClownfish said: I have her specced for max accuracy (😂) but even at 6 km's I have no problems perfectly straddling another massive BB without hitting it even once - repeatedly. FOR F*CK'S SAKE WARGAMING WHY?!?!?! There is no redeeming factor to compensate for this lack of accuracy. Why are German BB's not allowed to hit other ships with their main guns?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites