[ARRSE] cracktrackflak Weekend Tester 947 posts Report post #301 Posted December 12, 2021 20x certificates - 4x Megas - signals and cammos, then Yukon. Yay, a rare and valuable ship! 20x gifted megas - four tier 5/6 ships, in exact low-to-high order of shop value ("random", my arrse...), plus more sigs and cammos. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #302 Posted December 12, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 1:20 PM, Europizza said: All the ones you never wanted :D It's funny because it's true ^^ After getting the Arizona and De Grasse in the 12 TX certificate medium size lootboxes, I got gold as well with which I bought another 8 mediums and got me the Flandre. ^^ It's free stuff. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] markphil68 Players 55 posts Report post #303 Posted December 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Nov_A said: Christmas 2020 aka the great scam: Reveal hidden contents Christmas 2021 aka I got double my money's worth: Reveal hidden contents Ise - 24.10 CHF Lazo - 29.43 CHF Weimar - 31.20 CHF 180 Days of Premium: 47.84 CHF Total price of boxes in shop: 66.27 CHF Total price of goods in shop: 132.57 CHF Which means I got around double the worth of goods from RNG boxes, plus a good stock of camouflages and some special flags. One can argue that Lazo is also available for coal in the armory and T6 BB/T7 cruisers are not in a healthy position in terms of MM, but I still got more from the boxes that I spent on them. I guess you have "better luck" when you buy them with money instead of certificates 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,916 battles Report post #304 Posted December 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Nov_A said: Christmas 2020 aka the great scam: Reveal hidden contents Christmas 2021 aka I got double my money's worth: Reveal hidden contents Ise - 24.10 CHF Lazo - 29.43 CHF Weimar - 31.20 CHF 180 Days of Premium: 47.84 CHF Total price of boxes in shop: 66.27 CHF Total price of goods in shop: 132.57 CHF Which means I got around double the worth of goods from RNG boxes, plus a good stock of camouflages and some special flags. One can argue that Lazo is also available for coal in the armory and T6 BB/T7 cruisers are not in a healthy position in terms of MM, but I still got more from the boxes that I spent on them. Counting value like that is misleading. You can get Lazo for free, and you can get Weimar and Ise with a 25% discount. Also, you can get 360 days of premium time for 12000 doubloons, so 180 days worth 6000. Also there is the personal value. Will you play these ships that much, or will you rather play your T9s and T10s, while grinding new lines? Port queens do not worth the money. Also, if you already had like 400+ days of premium time, then 180 additional days is kind of useless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #305 Posted December 12, 2021 With my 17 certificates I got 3 Mega , 2 Small crates, and another 2 I received perhaps medium crates. Thanks WG ! Then I tried 20 Mega crates, and I got The Agincourt seems to be only available in loot boxes (I didn't see it in the store). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] VedranSeaWolf359 Players 714 posts 11,228 battles Report post #306 Posted December 12, 2021 Yesterday from Mega Gift got Russian CL Tier 9, Today from Standard Gift French Tier VIII DD Thank you Wargaming 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NKK] valrond Beta Tester 884 posts 12,997 battles Report post #307 Posted December 12, 2021 8 megas from certificates Hyuga One crate with special signals (ouroboros) Six crates with camos Got 20 megas with dubs. 7 ships. Constellation (tier 8), Flint (7), rest tier 7 and 6. No dubs or premium time. Rest camos and signals. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PTNV] fortes_2 Players 4 posts 12,209 battles Report post #308 Posted December 12, 2021 4 Megas and 1 big from certificate - T7 Strasbourg - 12.500 coal Rest were camos Bought 20 big crates for money: -T8 Prinz Eugen -T7 Leningrad -T7 Indianapolis -7.500 coal Rest were camos and signals Not happy and not disappointed either...just meeh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_S_] Bligger Players 79 posts 7,774 battles Report post #309 Posted December 12, 2021 20 big container - only Yukon and some gold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,324 battles Report post #310 Posted December 12, 2021 Bought 20 Santa 20 Big Santa and 20 Mega Santa crates as I usually do each year From these crates only counting ships and doubloons I got T-X Hayate 2.000.000 free XP or 80.000 Doubloons 1845,03 DDK or € 248,10 T-VIII Constellation 295,18 DDK or € 39,71 T-VIII Borodino 295,18 DDK or € 39,71 T-VIII Congress 260,60 DDK or € 35,04 T-VIII Fenyang 237,57 DDK or € 31,95 T-VII München 202,93 DDK or € 27,29 T-VII Weimar 202,93 DDK or € 27,29 T-VI Leone 122,22 DDK or € 16,44 T- VI Jurua 122,22 DDK or € 16,44 6500 Doubloons 149,91 DDK or € 20,16 Rest was signals, coal and camo difficult to put a real money value on Total worth 3733,77 DDK or € 502,08 Real money spend for the crates this year DKK 808,18 or € 108, 68 The free 16 Big and 2 small exchanged from the certificates Gave me Agincourt plus the usual camo, signals and coal Bought Mega crates for the Doubloons gained from the previous crates and got Tiger 59 the only ship left on the list I didn't have. All in all No complain from me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WSW] ColorsOfRainbows Players 665 posts 7,534 battles Report post #311 Posted December 13, 2021 First 20 boxes I got 7 ships.next 20 only 3 ... The early ones are always better xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SVX] albin322 Players 1,850 posts 20,871 battles Report post #312 Posted December 13, 2021 10 mega containers from certifacets abruzzi and sims and allot of other stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HELLA] Anthoniusii Players 1,188 posts 24,343 battles Report post #313 Posted December 13, 2021 A reply to YabbaCoe that reading my initial post accused me that i am calling the whole precess a casino that prakes the rules of Eu and he told me that i have 50% rate of success in my 4 first containers. So to prove him wrong I bought today 8 Giga Containers and got: plus 5 mosaic cammos and 30 Red Dragon flags. As you can see (unless ships as gifts are not available anymore) there is no 50% and other rubish. For example: When you complete battle exp you have the choice to select the last option with the small crater that says "it gives less rewards but it has bigger chanches to get a premium ship". Biggret chanches from what ? The other containers? If that is so in my 6 years if gamming and an average container ipen close 2.5 WHY I haven;t got any ship at all? When you accuse some one that is priviliged by having 50% rate of success better read other clients posts too before you embarace your self. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PHL] ApocalypseMeeow [PHL] Beta Tester 504 posts 32,129 battles Report post #314 Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Anthoniusii said: A reply to YabbaCoe that reading my initial post accused me that i am calling the whole precess a casino that prakes the rules of Eu and he told me that i have 50% rate of success in my 4 first containers. So to prove him wrong I bought today 8 Giga Containers and got: plus 5 mosaic cammos and 30 Red Dragon flags. As you can see (unless ships as gifts are not available anymore) there is no 50% and other rubish. [...] Just to set the context for all readers. Yes, you had a 50% drop quota: 4 boxes, two ships. You did not prove him wrong with the additional acquistion; you just bought another set of crates. Nobody stated that you would have 50% forever. Fun fact: Your two ships out of 10 Mega and 2 large boxes are within the stated probabilities (16% Mega, 9% Large). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] DDG_121 Players 791 posts Report post #315 Posted December 13, 2021 8 (or 10) boxes is a very limited sample size. At grand scheme of things (many containers opened by many players), the percentages stated by WG seem to be correct. Some guy opened first 14 and didn't get any ship so at 15 th, he got a ship by pitty factor. He opened like 130 containers in total and had pitty (14 in a row without a ship) like 3 or 4 times. So it is luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] HMS_Kilinowski [THESO] Players 2,665 posts 25,501 battles Report post #316 Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 4:05 PM, Ocsimano18 said: Counting value like that is misleading. You can get Lazo for free, and you can get Weimar and Ise with a 25% discount. Also, you can get 360 days of premium time for 12000 doubloons, so 180 days worth 6000. Also there is the personal value. Will you play these ships that much, or will you rather play your T9s and T10s, while grinding new lines? Port queens do not worth the money. Also, if you already had like 400+ days of premium time, then 180 additional days is kind of useless. There seem to be very different ways of thinking about the game economy. Some people know that value is solely driven by willingness to pay. Other people take prices as given and confuse it with value. If one thinks like that, by default any lootbox will be worth its price, since you get a premium to compensate for the uncertainty of its content. I got a Yukon from the free lootboxes. Is it worth the 32€ asking price? If that was true for all players, then everyone by definition would have a Yukon in port right now. Maybe some day the ignorance of this community will have triggered me enough to start a guide to WoWs economics. Ofc I am too lazy and I know the people wouldn't read it, much less understand it. Makes me sad. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #317 Posted December 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, HMS_Kilinowski said: There seem to be very different ways of thinking about the game economy. Some people know that value is solely driven by willingness to pay. Other people take prices as given and confuse it with value. If one thinks like that, by default any lootbox will be worth its price, since you get a premium to compensate for the uncertainty of its content. I got a Yukon from the free lootboxes. Is it worth the 32€ asking price? If that was true for all players, then everyone by definition would have a Yukon in port right now. Maybe some day the ignorance of this community will have triggered me enough to start a guide to WoWs economics. Ofc I am too lazy and I know the people wouldn't read it, much less understand it. Makes me sad. I think most stuff in WoWs is rediculously overpriced. 32 euros for Yukon? Hah, I fart in WeeGreedy's general direction 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBHH] Trench4nt Players 2,133 posts Report post #318 Posted December 13, 2021 Vor 3 Stunden, Anthoniusii sagte: A reply to YabbaCoe that reading my initial post accused me that i am calling the whole precess a casino that prakes the rules of Eu and he told me that i have 50% rate of success in my 4 first containers. So to prove him wrong I bought today 8 Giga Containers and got: plus 5 mosaic cammos and 30 Red Dragon flags. As you can see (unless ships as gifts are not available anymore) there is no 50% and other rubish. Of course it is. You simply do not understand the basic principles of probability theory. WG explained it a couple of time in the news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #319 Posted December 13, 2021 17 hours ago, hgbn_dk said: Bought 20 Santa 20 Big Santa and 20 Mega Santa crates as I usually do each year From these crates only counting ships and doubloons I got T-X Hayate 2.000.000 free XP or 80.000 Doubloons 1845,03 DDK or € 248,10 T-VIII Constellation 295,18 DDK or € 39,71 T-VIII Borodino 295,18 DDK or € 39,71 T-VIII Congress 260,60 DDK or € 35,04 T-VIII Fenyang 237,57 DDK or € 31,95 T-VII München 202,93 DDK or € 27,29 T-VII Weimar 202,93 DDK or € 27,29 T-VI Leone 122,22 DDK or € 16,44 T- VI Jurua 122,22 DDK or € 16,44 6500 Doubloons 149,91 DDK or € 20,16 Rest was signals, coal and camo difficult to put a real money value on Total worth 3733,77 DDK or € 502,08 Real money spend for the crates this year DKK 808,18 or € 108, 68 The free 16 Big and 2 small exchanged from the certificates Gave me Agincourt plus the usual camo, signals and coal Bought Mega crates for the Doubloons gained from the previous crates and got Tiger 59 the only ship left on the list I didn't have. All in all No complain from me Sorry, total price is 502 euros. Value is something entirely different. As you cannot trade your ships, the value is entirely what you consider it. I would rather jump off a cliff than pay 502 euros for those ships. In fact I would not even pay close to 108 euros for them. WG is overpricing stuff to a rediculous extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TMCF] Drone81 Beta Tester 219 posts Report post #320 Posted December 13, 2021 with 42 tier X ships I chose 8 and 2 regular mega santa crates hoping for some luck that a ship would drop. . . unfortunately i live in belgium and i can't buy santa crates unless someone gives them to me as a gift and I pay them back via paypalI can't even see the prices on the site unfortunately :( 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,324 battles Report post #321 Posted December 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, Camperdown said: Sorry, total price is 502 euros. Value is something entirely different. As you cannot trade your ships, the value is entirely what you consider it. I would rather jump off a cliff than pay 502 euros for those ships. In fact I would not even pay close to 108 euros for them. WG is overpricing stuff to a rediculous extent. To be fair I can't see the price in € only in my local currency DDK just used a online currency converter to calculate the cost in € and a 8 cent difference is spot on for me. Value is what you personal make of it and is different for each individual. Like we say here in Denmark one man's trash another guy's gold 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF57] Fatal_Ramses Players 1,300 posts Report post #322 Posted December 13, 2021 18,750 Doubloons for 20x megas. Got back 10k gold, Borodino, Mysore, 12k coal and bunch of flags and camos. Not bad. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BASIC] koliber_1984 Players 1,113 posts 27,787 battles Report post #323 Posted December 13, 2021 After getting Enterprise from NY certificates, i decided to whale for benham, the only high tier ship I wanted. So I bought 20 megas and boom! Happy 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddog30 ∞ Beta Tester 343 posts 14,937 battles Report post #324 Posted December 13, 2021 From 6 mega i got 2 ships and flags and 6 santa boxes got flags camo not bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[E-R-W] SilentEnimLegesInterArma Players 327 posts 19,542 battles Report post #325 Posted December 14, 2021 I've completed my set.. I don't think I missed something... Invested: 46 free Santas 40 bought. in total I got: Jean Bart Jurua Agincourt Hyuga Tiger59 Yukon Mysore Hayate Flandre Ise Smaland Constellation Borodino Congress Marco Polo Groningen So I am only missing: current Steel (6) and Coal (3) Ships and Research (6) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites