Sackwille camo announced

[Andrewbassg]

6 hours ago, LTC_Tiger said:

LWM's persistence appears to have paid off -- at least a little:

 

Per the dev blog, coming in 11.0:

• Permanent camouflage "Camouflage scheme of HMCS Sackville" for VII YUKON.

 

Still.....

 

2 hours ago, Chobittsu said:

It should be noted that this design in it's current state differs from the textures I submitted to Wargaming.  This was always going to be the case but some elements are missing and we've already had a meeting with Wargaming about it.

 

 Idk these people can't learn from anything??! Sigh......

[Aethervoxx]

TY for this, Andrewbassg.

A few additional points; 

1) The Sackville is the only surviving Cdn  WW2 Corvette in existence as a Museum Ship (I believe it's in Halifax harbour). I have two Uncles (now deceased) who served on  Cdn Corvettes in WW2.

2) It is nice the Sackville camo is an option, however, for the 'Yukon' only? ROFL. I'm  a Cdn but I won't give money to WG  to get any of this. This is a WG insult to Cdn players.

If WG gave me the Yukon & threw in the Sackville Camo for FREE, then, fine, I'd take it. 

2 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

Idk these people can't learn from anything??! Sigh......

They can't ..... does a Leopard change its' spots? 

As to what the Camo design for the Sackville was or might have been I offer this info - I believe each Corvette got their own 'camoflage' designs while in port for a refit so these camo patterns could & probably did change over time.

The records of what these camos were is dependent on surviving photographs (which are almost all black & white photos). I think this is what Chobittsu mentions as  'textures' & 'some elements are missing'.

I have a model of the HMCS Alberni (an Uncle of mine served on it) & one has to interpret the colours used on the B & W WW2 photographs (I did get some info on singular details that only those who served on her would have had).

Cheers.

[Captain_Breeze]

Is this not the elephant in the room that broke the straw for @LittleWhiteMouse?

[lafeel]

2 hours ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Is this not the elephant in the room that broke the straw for @LittleWhiteMouse?

It is indeed, and also just not a very good ship over all.

[Captain_Breeze]

1 minute ago, lafeel said:

It is indeed, and also just not a very good ship over all.

Then it just feels like it leaves bad taste in the mouth so to speak. What a shame.

[lafeel]

6 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Then it just feels like it leaves bad taste in the mouth so to speak. What a shame.

Why do you think I don't have a one 

[TheAlba2014]

1 minute ago, lafeel said:

Why do you think I don't have a one 

Guaranteed in a Santa crate for you now...

[lafeel]

3 minutes ago, TheAlba2014 said:

Guaranteed in a Santa crate for you now...

Only if I buy any.

[Captain_Breeze]

7 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Only if I buy any.

I may then send you one as a gift just to confirm the mechanics that WG use and to see your reaction.....

 

Aside: As I'm Scottish, I ain't buying anybody anything 

[lafeel]

4 minutes ago, Captain_Breeze said:

I may then send you one as a gift just to confirm the mechanics that WG use and to see your reaction.....

 

Aside: As I'm Scottish I ain't buying anybody anything 

Sad thing is, it wouldn't even take that much to turn her into a decent ship, either shaving the reload down to a even 30, and/or (preferably and) give her a bit more range and she'd be there..

[Andrewbassg]

6 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

TY for this, Andrewbassg.

 A few additional points; 

 1) The Sackville is the only surviving Cdn  WW2 Corvette in existence as a Museum Ship (I believe it's in Halifax harbour). I have two Uncles (now deceased) who served on  Cdn Corvettes in WW2.

 

6 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

2) It is nice the Sackville camo is an option, however, for the 'Yukon' only? ROFL. I'm  a Cdn but I won't give money to WG  to get any of this. This is a WG insult to Cdn players

 

Maybe you are not familiar with the whole shebang. I will make a resume, still the dates will quite possibly be a bit inaccurate.

Otherwise...brace yourself :(

1.LWM and Chobbi was approached by Wg staff ( I think NA)to  help design a ship for 2020( !!!) Canada Day.

2. The two come to the conclusion that designing a ship from scratch will be too much, and best would be to take an existing ship ( Monarch) and "repurpose" her with different characteristics and possibly gimmicks.

3.They design two(!!) camo's for her, one which  actually made it to the game, albeit as concept only, which is the Anchorage native american themed camo(!!!) and the second the Sackville camo, as a homage to Canada, the Canadian Navy and to the people who served .

4.The 2020 release is delayed to 2021 for a number of factors.

5.In the meantime, these two keep asking questions about  how things are going, because .....well they were involved in the process from beginning and they see the Anchorage camo. To which the answer is "everything ok"

6.Fast forward 2021. The ship is being given to LWM to write her review and she discovers with shock and horror that a)the ship is nothing like what her envisioned but a sad caricature...  and b)the  Sackwille camo is not included!! Things on which LWM and Chobbi worked a better part of a year......

7.She, as team player she is, desperately tries to contact Wg to ask TF is going on?? To which the answer is "how could she ever imagine that she would design a ship?"

 

Of course the amount of disrespect shown to everybody ( players , Canada, to her)triggers LWM and WW3 Wows edition begins........This is in a nutshell how things had happened.

 

6 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

If WG gave me the Yukon & threw in the Sackville Camo for FREE, then, fine, I'd take it. 

 

I suspect it would be made available by means of a mission chain. I mean the camo.

 

Btw the forum is really acting up......

[Andrewbassg]

4 hours ago, Captain_Breeze said:

Is this not the elephant in the room that broke the straw for @LittleWhiteMouse?

Exactly.

[Procrastes]

Until I hear confirmation from Little White Mouse and Chobi, stating that they are completely satisfied with having had their Yukon designs accepted by Wargaming and fully realized in the game, I will not even consider buying the Yukon.

[DBM82_KRKA]

So far, i haven't see single Yukon in game (battle), not a single one.....

[RuruushuVuiBuritania]

I will simply receive a Yukon from the Christmas crates, farm steel, then sell it. I don't want anything to do with it, considering the history of development...
Don't buy her or the camo until WG has done its creators justice.

[Andrewbassg]

1 minute ago, DBM82_KRKA said:

So far, i haven't see single Yukon in game (battle), not a single one.....

Well.....the amount of flak people would get for riding one.....yeah. I think I saw a grand total of three on 2 servers... including ops.

[Hakssor]

It should've been a consumable camo, on Yukon almost nobody is gonna use it. 

[lovelacebeer]

According to WOWS stats and numbers the Yukon has been taken out 3277. I’m amazed it’s that many. (https://wows-numbers.com/ships/)

Still whilst I hold LWM in high regard and I appreciate the amount of effort she and Chobi put into this project I really hope they have finally learnt what kind of company WG are.

[Procrastes]

47 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

Well.....the amount of flak people would get for riding one.....yeah. I think I saw a grand total of three on 2 servers... including ops.

I wouldn't attack anyone for simply playing the Yukon.

 

I wouldn't mind sinking the ship, however, if I found one on the enemy team.

[Maris_Piper]

There is an English saying used a lot by The mighty Jingles that fits the Yuk-On   situation well, "You Can't Polish a Turd" 

[Wulf_Ace]

10 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

 

Still.....

 

 

 Idk these people can't learn from anything??! Sigh......

Do you know anything about Yukon wolf flag? How to get that one? Admiral pack?

[Verblonde]

49 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:

According to WOWS stats and numbers the Yukon has been taken out 3277. I’m amazed it’s that many. (https://wows-numbers.com/ships/)

Presumably, most of that lot can be assigned to the large chunk of players that apparently don't read the forums (or almost any non-WG channel in this case); if you only read the advertising blurb - and actually believe it - Yukon might sound like a splendid idea...

 

Assuming I get a ship from Satan boxes this winter, I just *know* it's going to be Yukon; that'll push the games count up by one - might as well bag the snowflake at least!

[Maris_Piper]

8 hours ago, Aethervoxx said:

I have a model of the HMCS Albern

I'd love to see a picture of it if that were possible 

[Andrewbassg]

48 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

I wouldn't attack anyone for simply playing the Yukon.

Oh....not attack. But I certainly would ask for the motives behind bringing her.

 

Of course in plain,  "sailor language"

48 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

I wouldn't mind sinking the ship, however, if I found one on the enemy team.

 

[Andrewbassg]

1 hour ago, Hakssor said:

It should've been a consumable camo, on Yukon almost nobody is gonna use it. 

Hmm.... I would  elaborate a bit on the motives and reasoning, behind the decisions regarding that ship and her camo, tho admittedly according to my limited understanding.

First of all. Yukon was originally to be named Nunavik as a homage to the Inuit people and their region. Hence the originally envisaged  "war canoe" camo. Even more, her envisaged playstyle was also part of this, swift and with low concealment. As you can see, there was a great deal of thinking that went into this. It was undoubtedly, a labor of love.

 

The Sackville camo was a homage to the RCN and to people who served in and as such it would have been a perma camo.

 

That is, as I said, according to my limited understanding.