Bearn imminent?

[Verblonde]

According to Daily Bounce, the Bearn is imminent: https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-warships/final-review-french-tier-vi-premium-aircraft-carrier-bearn/

 

Sadly, she appears to be another dodgy T6 loot-box short-list candidate...?

 

Of course, I'm not a CV-meister, so don't have an informed opinion...

[lafeel]

8 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

Of course, I'm not a CV-meister, so don't have an informed opinion...

From what I saw of her being played last night I can pretty safely say she's sh*te.

[Aragathor]

It's coming on Friday, it's official.

 

Here's a quick review:

 

 

A weird ship that heralds the coming of support CVs.

[undutchable80]

Fighter Interceptor gimmick that wont work vs Russian planes? 

[Captain_Breeze]

13 minutes ago, lafeel said:

From what I saw of her being played last night I can pretty safely say she's sh*te.

I sincerely hope so.

[WWDragon]

34 minutes ago, undutchable80 said:

Fighter Interceptor gimmick that wont work vs Russian planes? 

It wont work on anyone.

 

The problem with CAP is two-fold, first that it wont engage CAP (that is stupid because if you want to kill CAP spotters you cannot do it with CAP) and second that its a 1:1 trade so you can sacrifice a flight to get rid of a CAP, not that is a fair trade but that means your CAP only lasts as long as either duration, being shoot down by AA or having trade with enemy flights.

 

I dont understand why are you saying it wont work vs Soviet planes because this is a very basic interaction that anyone should know, they are slow and be shoot down by any CAP, like FDR they are especially vulnerable to CAP due to their speed and even more important, those planes wont come back to rearm and refuel, meaning they have to be regenerated by the carrier meaning they actually are a good counter vs CVs with the Soviet CV mechanic.

[invicta2012]

58 minutes ago, lafeel said:

From what I saw of her being played last night I can pretty safely say she's sh*te.

Skip bombers. Urgh. Not fun. Can't say I'll be buying this one. 

[Verblonde]

52 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Can't say I'll be buying this one.

Is it late enough in the year yet that this sort of clunker isn't included in the Satan boxes? I can't recall what happened in previous years...

 

I normally like T6 premium CVs for Ops, but Bearn looks pretty pants for even that.

[lafeel]

59 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Skip bombers. Urgh. Not fun. Can't say I'll be buying this one. 

And AP bombers. Not exactly the greatest of combinations.

[bratisla_boy]

À l'instant, lafeel a dit :

And AP bombers. Not exactly the greatest of combinations.

AP bombers with Gilbert Montagné as a pilot, to add some french flavor to the bomb dispersion. Salt not included.

[Hakssor]

2 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

Is it late enough in the year yet that this sort of clunker isn't included in the Satan boxes? I can't recall what happened in previous years...

 

I normally like T6 premium CVs for Ops, but Bearn looks pretty pants for even that.

The list doesn't contain her, so you're safe. She's basically an anti-CV, which is  basically useless for Ops.  She is really underwhelming in terms of damage but the skip bombers are quite accurate and can be used on DDs. I have Ark Royal, I don't see any reason why I would want Bearn.

[Verblonde]

5 minutes ago, Hakssor said:

The list doesn't contain her, so you're safe.

Excellent - I can ignore her for the moment, then. Result!

[Aethervoxx]

Wedgie will rely on the uninformed who will buy anything.

[invicta2012]

3 hours ago, lafeel said:

And AP bombers. Not exactly the greatest of combinations.

It's not. I just dumpstered the Serov because I wasn't enjoying playing that compared to the other Tier VI CVS and Bearn doesn't look like much of an improvement. Ah well. 

[lafeel]

29 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

It's not. I just dumpstered the Serov because I wasn't enjoying playing that compared to the other Tier VI CVS and Bearn doesn't look like much of an improvement. Ah well. 

Her fighters are decent at least, but post CV rework that frankly isn't worth much..

[El2aZeR]

8 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Her fighters are decent at least, but post CV rework that frankly isn't worth much..

 

The fighters practically cannot spot which is their primary role in the rework, so they are actually trash. 

[CptBarney]

27 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

The fighters practically cannot spot which is their primary role in the rework, so they are actually trash. 

Don't worry they will get radar in update 11 about 8km range for 40 secs is very reasonable dont you think?

[Miscommunication_dept]

Bearn, the fighter carrier to battle the new Soviet CVs.

 

Soviet CVs are almost impervious to fighters btw.

[Wulf_Ace]

8 hours ago, Verblonde said:

According to Daily Bounce, the Bearn is imminent: https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-warships/final-review-french-tier-vi-premium-aircraft-carrier-bearn/

 

Sadly, she appears to be another dodgy T6 loot-box short-list candidate...?

 

Of course, I'm not a CV-meister, so don't have an informed opinion...

Finally that description and skill on french special commander will make sense.

[WWDragon]

10 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

The fighters practically cannot spot which is their primary role in the rework, so they are actually trash. 

Dont worry, CAP wont spot anything soon enough ...

[Smeggo]

She has arrived. I've tested her the last patches and share the armored-patrol-impression:

 

- artificial delays on both bomber-types-attacks make somehow quite unconfortably to use - feels like lag

- pen-values in the unconfort-zone of almost always overpenetrating

- enhanced fighters are only usefull if your enemy is a bot

 

cannot recommend - not much fun to play 

 

 

[totally_potato]

19 hours ago, Verblonde said:

According to Daily Bounce, the Bearn is imminent: https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-warships/final-review-french-tier-vi-premium-aircraft-carrier-bearn/

 

Sadly, she appears to be another dodgy T6 loot-box short-list candidate...?

 

Of course, I'm not a CV-meister, so don't have an informed opinion...

from what I've seen

Ppl are using her as a standard CV, which she most definitely is not. Hence ppl call her crap. Its like taking an Elbing to contest cap, a Kleber to torpedo boat, or a secondary BB to snipe

 

This CV focuses on defending allies with powerful fighter blockades, while dealing a bit of dmg with her skip bombers, and AP bombs are situational, the pen isn't very promising tbh, as a Bearn attacked me with AP bombers in my Izmail, 2 bombs hit, zero dmg. She is a sort of support utility CV, so paired with another full fledged attack CV like Ryujo or EL for eg, in double CV matches, she could be quite influential. In one CV games, she won't do much in terms of damage, but she'll do spotting, and spotting CV attacks very well in the hands of a player who can utilize her.

 

I hope this, the reconnaissance fighter gimmick, and something like dropping smoke on an ally or dropping a consumable set (+1 of each consumable), with very limited strike potential, becomes the attraction of escort CVs.

[Procrastes]

11 hours ago, gopher31 said:

Soviet CVs are almost impervious to fighters btw.

In what way? Too much HP, or too fast, or what?

[Aragathor]

53 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

In what way? Too much HP, or too fast, or what?

Due to the one drop per squadron mechanic the planes don't really trigger ship launched fighters. And CV dropped fighters can be avoided.

[totally_potato]

4 hours ago, Aragathor said:

Due to the one drop per squadron mechanic the planes don't really trigger ship launched fighters. And CV dropped fighters can be avoided.

aren't skills like reducing the time to attack a squad, a thing? Like enhanced reactions?