Intentionally ruining games

[stormguard]

@YabbaCoe @MrConway @Crysantos

This cv just drove straight into enemy in the middle of the map to suicide at the start of the game. Several people in the chat said he always does this and they have reported him several times earlier. He have also been reported several times on https://wows-karma.com/

 

This straight up breaks the EULA which states fair play.. Why haven't this been adressed yet? This individual have received massive amounts of reports and he have been doing this for several months.

 

 

Reference game: 28.11.2021 battle start: 02:24

[SodaBubbles]

Haha. WG LOVES players like this. LOVES LOVES LOVES.

 

I can name players on NA who do this. I know them well. Reported, both in-game system and as complaints. No point. 

The truth is that WG loves this stuff. Players like this cause collapses and get players back in the queue faster. Getting players back in the queue faster is their number one goal -- that's why we have arbitrary griefing mechanics like subs and CVs -- to get players dead faster and back in the queue faster.

There is nothing you can do. They will never do anything to these players. AFKers and botters and yolo'ers are their bread and butter, they believe. 

[Chaoskraehe]

You should send this to the support team. 

[Aethervoxx]

I think  some players may intentionally ruin battles  because  Wedgie  , all by itself (via MM   & dubious targeting  results, etc), ruins battles, therefore, it's a kind of 'revenge' .

[MementoMori_6030]

The CMs have recently acknowledged that the majority of players are bad beyond belief, so WG can continue their denial of the existence of deliberate sabotage and obvious coop botting.

[Camperdown]

Well, WG does not take any responsibility for a quality game experience. You see that in their design choices with MM, CVs, subs, overmatch mechanics, you name it.

It baffles me why they do it. I understand they want to maximise revenues, but trashing your own game does not seem to make sense.

Yet here we are 

[lovelacebeer]

Best you can do is make sure that you submit the replay to support and hope they block him from playing for at least a while.
 

There is one particular player I used to encounter from time to time who did that in a CV, and there were very suspicious breaks in his playing (when I checked) so I can only hope it meant support did at least temporarily sanction him. 
 

WG won’t ban them from playing permanently but they might at least reduce how often they can ruin the fun for other people.  

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Every game gets the players it deserves. Grief class griefs. Nothing to see here ^^

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 30 Minuten, Europizza sagte:

Every game gets the players it deserves. Grief class griefs. Nothing to see here ^^

Preview of WoWs 2022:

 

[tocqueville8]

Yup, that's @CHACCO_destroyer alright: his "yoloing Hakuryu" comes out at night...

[AkerJack]

Game parassite. I am sure WG likes this situation as stated above...I don't understand why but regardless all the reports through the game as well as CS they still there. There always the same answer "Be assured that the appropriate measures have been taken but we cannot disclose them" and you find them on the next game in your team just because they laight seeing things like this.

 

Fun and engaging...

[admiralgpt]

9 hours ago, stormguard said:

 

This cv just drove straight into enemy in the middle of the map to suicide at the start of the game. Several people in the chat said he always does this and they have reported him several times earlier. He have also been reported several times on https://wows-karma.com/

 

This straight up breaks the EULA which states fair play.. Why haven't this been adressed yet? This individual have received massive amounts of reports and he have been doing this for several months.

 

 

Reference game: 28.11.2021 battle start: 02:24

 

Use some common sense. Community leaders don't care about crap like that - dont tag them needlessly. Obviously they wont condone it, and just say send a support ticket. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

You mean this sort of behavior isn't normal?

[JoeSparkx]

WeeGee doesn't care about players griefing, unless you are griefing CV's.

 

CV's are allowed to grief, harass and ruin your game, but the instant you return the favour, WeeGee bans you instead for "creating a toxic atmosphere" whilst being completely oblivious to the irony in that, just look at the 899 begone bans.

 

Just spent a match being hounded by a CV in my fletcher, he literally ignored everyone else around me and chased me around the map with his planes. Thats fine to WeeGee, however if I was to completely ignore the enemy and attack him, I am in the wrong. Someone go do the mental gymnastics to figure that one out. The logic processes on this lot rival the SJW's sometimes.

[venderbomb]

Yeah, I've seen him in a few games.....always does it apparently!☹ he was the talk of chat.

[Ze_Reckless]

2 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

Yup, that's @(ban protection) alright: his "yoloing Hakuryu" comes out at night...

 

No worries, WG will react swiftly. You will be banned soon for saying his name.

[ReapingKnight]

10 hours ago, stormguard said:

Reference game: 28.11.2021 battle start: 02:24

Not all heroes wear capes! Down with CVs :D (and Subs for that matter)

[RenfieldSyndrome]

I know this guy he never gets banned.

[illy]

best thing is if you swear at that player and you get a chat report you'll get a chat ban, that player will do this day after day because they know nothing happens, seen and heard too many times, they thrive on it

[tocqueville8]

1 hour ago, Ze_Reckless said:

 

No worries, WG will react swiftly. You will be banned soon for saying his name.

I thought about that, but:

 

1) his name is already in the OP's screenshot, effectively

 

2) anyone who's played T10 at late hours knows him

 

3) I have no problem with the player, as someone like that is clearly...eccentric. At this point, I have a problem with WG for allowing him to carry on. He's been reported multiple times: it's just proof that the system doesn't work.

 

4) I'm not shaming the player: the 1st time it happened I was angry, the 2nd time he was on the enemy team and I was amused. In a way, if my CV is going to be useless I'd rather know it from the start, so I don't get my hopes too high, rely on him for spotting, etc.

 

5) There are numberless people who effectively play the same way in other classes, especially DDs.

 

6) It's like running into a minor celebrity: even if you don't care for their work, you're still going to tell your friends you saw XYZ outside of a restaurant, or whatever.

 

7) I've seen triple red divs, sometimes fail divs too, and I've seen triple purple divs, often testing new ships. The effect of either on the gaming experience can be just as bad, leading to frequent steamrolls, etc.

 

8) In some games (depending on the map, I think) his strategy just works: in the post-rework Shokaku his record damage (217k) and spotting (280k) are higher than mine. Granted, that's in over 10 times as many games, but still...

 

9) Also, his WR in CVs is 49% and the PR is over 900, both of which are alright. He's been doing even better recently.

 

10) Overall, if it wasn't for the insults in chat, which I can't confirm for other occasions as I blacklisted him after the 1st time (to remind me of him during the loading screen), we'd be talking about a weird playstyle, but not less effective than that of so many CV captains who refuse to leave when the enemy pushes, or just hide in a corner at the beginning of the match, halving their effective DPM.

[Aethervoxx]

7 hours ago, Camperdown said:

Well, WG does not take any responsibility for a quality game experience. You see that in their design choices with MM, CVs, subs, overmatch mechanics, you name it.

It baffles me why they do it. I understand they want to maximise revenues, but trashing your own game does not seem to make sense.

Yet here we are 

It has to be the  money stream. No one would wreak  their own creation  as much as Wedgie has unless the   money was still rolling in.

 

8 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

The CMs have recently acknowledged that the majority of players are bad beyond belief

 The ones who give Wedgie money .

[Asatori]

Well if all CV players were as nice as this and suicide at the start. Everyone else can have an ejoyable game.. 

 

 

[PaP_Mentoles]

WeeGreedy will do nothing cause they can utilize people like him.

[Pururut]

Honestly I dont know anymore. Players like these, existance of a third party snitching website and people seriously using the said website. What a waste of time. 

[asalonen]

7 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

Yup, that's @CHACCO_destroyer alright: his "yoloing Hakuryu" comes out at night...

I mostly see him yolo'ing in the Shokaku, but maybe he needs to alternate the two because he's so quickly back to port...

 

But what comes to banning... I feel like I must do the unthinkable, and say a word in his defense: The guy is a 48-percenter in CV's. In the Shokaku his PR is 1100+. Results-wise, he's perfectly average. In the time that he lives, he gets perfectly reasonable damage.

 

You can fairly make the argument that he does NOT intentionally throw the games. He does not even intentionally die, but instead rushes behind cover near the center of the map where his chances of survival are slim. Yes, his tactic is stupid and yes, he could win more by playing differently. But you can say this about so many players, for different reasons?