Question about Mainz

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

I heard that they removed this ship right after releasing it, and then put it to sale again. 

My question tho, did they nerf it before releasing it again?

[Dr_Snuggles]

Unchanged.. 

 

And if I am remembering correct Mainz is still one of the Premuims without the "can be changed" note.

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

1 minute ago, Dr_Snuggles said:

Unchanged.. 

 

And if I am remembering correct Mainz is still one of the Premuims without the "can be changed" note.

 

If so then I will buy her with a coupon. I think I can get her reload to some absurd level with the new skills and the commander.

[hellhound666]

48 minutes ago, Dr_Snuggles said:

Unchanged.. 

 

And if I am remembering correct Mainz is still one of the Premuims without the "can be changed" note.

this will surely help and keep this safe ...

[Miscommunication_dept]

7 hours ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

 

If so then I will buy her with a coupon. I think I can get her reload to some absurd level with the new skills and the commander.

Mainz HE dpm is good and HE pen is excellent.

 

Mainz AP dpm is huge and punishes anything with softish sides very well indeed.

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

9 hours ago, Eagle_Six_TR said:

 

If so then I will buy her with a coupon. I think I can get her reload to some absurd level with the new skills and the commander.

The reload is capped at 6 secs, impossible to change it as hard skill

[Miscommunication_dept]

4 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

The reload is capped at 6 secs, impossible to change it as hard skill

Top grade gunner brings it down to 5.5s.

Combined with Lutjens’ skill brings it down to about 5 seconds.

Add max AR to this and you get close to four seconds of reload.

[Mastodon2]

This ship was actually buffed because it was released with an unintentionally short range hydro, which was fixed a patch or two after it was put on sale.

 

It's an amazing ship, a lot of fun. I once sailed around the top of two brothers and surprised a Lenin at close range for a devastating strike with the torps. The torps only have 6km range and don't hit that hard but you can get a lot of them in the water at once!

[DirtyHeddy]

19 hours ago, Dr_Snuggles said:

Unchanged.. 

 

And if I am remembering correct Mainz is still one of the Premuims without the "can be changed" note.

I think WG will ignore this if their "magical spreadsheet" requires them ...

[Ronchabale]

21 hours ago, Dr_Snuggles said:

Unchanged.. 

 

And if I am remembering correct Mainz is still one of the Premuims without the "can be changed" note.

Dont think they have "global" changes in mind..

 

Like the Flint that got castrated in the commander rework...

[SmokinSerj]

14 hours ago, gopher31 said:

Mainz HE dpm is good and HE pen is excellent.

Mainz AP dpm is huge and punishes anything with softish sides very well indeed.

 

You sound like a commercial :)

 

Let's state her weaker sides too. She has a bad concealment, she's extremely squishy and she moves like a brick! Torpedoes are mostly for decoration, you will almost never get close enough to use them.

She can be (a lot of) fun, but you have to be lucky the enemy being caught with something else and not focusing his attention on you. If he sneezes in your direction, you're dead. Worse than covid, believe me.

So you practically should introduce yourself into somebody else's fight to have a chance of getting away from there alive.

 

Anyway, she's my 3rd most played ship, with a 45% WR. I bought her as my first premium ship because I saw some youtube clips and liked her, but now... if I were to buy it again... I'm not so sure.

I'd say she is more frustrating than she could be fun.

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

1 hour ago, SmokinSerj said:

 

You sound like a commercial :)

 

Let's state her weaker sides too. She has a bad concealment, she's extremely squishy and she moves like a brick! Torpedoes are mostly for decoration, you will almost never get close enough to use them.

She can be (a lot of) fun, but you have to be lucky the enemy being caught with something else and not focusing his attention on you. If he sneezes in your direction, you're dead. Worse than covid, believe me.

So you practically should introduce yourself into somebody else's fight to have a chance of getting away from there alive.

 

Anyway, she's my 3rd most played ship, with a 45% WR. I bought her as my first premium ship because I saw some youtube clips and liked her, but now... if I were to buy it again... I'm not so sure.

I'd say she is more frustrating than she could be fun.

 

That's what I want from my cruisers. Bad concealment so I can do a lighthouse build. My mainz has 17 km base concealment now lmfao.

[Redcap375]

The Mainz is a fantastic ship capable of big damage numbers and game winning potential. 

 

One of the few ships I actually brought and my go to tier 8 crusier. Pair with a friendly DD for extra Lol. 

 

It's strenghts far out weigh its weakness. Inbuilt IFHE pen so your fire chance is still high, up to 4 second reload with 12 guns per savlo, crazy amount of torps for close encounters, hydro or Def AAI. It's hella good daka!

 

But it is slow for a Crusier, doesn't have a heal and floaty shells, but its armour isn't a bad as people make out, it's a CL at the end of the day.  Like all light crusiers, awareness is paramount. 

 

Great ship that can be played in all modes comfortably. It's all about the guns with this one with a sprinkle of torp death rush when required. Its AP is brutal against other CL and squishy CA. But its fifty pence twenty pence time when a BB looks at you funny, just like a mino, colbert, austin ect so its just a CL thing. But it doesn't have a heal to bounce back from, hence why I have SE as its one of thoese few ships that aren't captain point heavy. 

 

 

 

[Miscommunication_dept]

16 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

The Mainz is a fantastic ship capable of big damage numbers and game winning potential. 

 

One of the few ships I actually brought and my go to tier 8 crusier. Pair with a friendly DD for extra Lol. 

 

It's strenghts far out weigh its weakness. Inbuilt IFHE pen so your fire chance is still high, up to 4 second reload with 12 guns per savlo, crazy amount of torps for close encounters, hydro or Def AAI. Is hella good daka. 

 

But it is slow for a Crusier, doesn't have a heal and floaty shells, but its armour isn't a bad as people make out, it's a CL at the end of the day.  Like all light crusiers, awareness is paramount. 

 

Great ship that can be played in all modes comfortably. It's all about the guns with this one with a sprinkle of torp death rush when required. Its AP is brutal against other CL and squishy CA.

 

 

I really would like them to

make a tier ten version with Hindi armour, a heal and a bit more dakka.

[Redcap375]

5 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

I really would like them to

make a tier ten version with Hindi armour, a heal and a bit more dakka.

 

I wouldnt. 

 

Sick and tired of HE spammers festering the game as it is. 

 

And what you discribed would be an abomination and broken AF. lol. 

[Miscommunication_dept]

2 hours ago, SmokinSerj said:

 

You sound like a commercial :)

 

Let's state her weaker sides too. She has a bad concealment, she's extremely squishy and she moves like a brick! Torpedoes are mostly for decoration, you will almost never get close enough to use them.

She can be (a lot of) fun, but you have to be lucky the enemy being caught with something else and not focusing his attention on you. If he sneezes in your direction, you're dead. Worse than covid, believe me.

So you practically should introduce yourself into somebody else's fight to have a chance of getting away from there alive.

 

Anyway, she's my 3rd most played ship, with a 45% WR. I bought her as my first premium ship because I saw some youtube clips and liked her, but now... if I were to buy it again... I'm not so sure.

I'd say she is more frustrating than she could be fun.

She’s no where near as brittle as you make out. She has a turtle back that sometimes helps but sometimes doesn’t.

You will certainly want to spend most of your time using it’s good range while wriggling your bottom at the enemy.

 

Its 38mm pen means American, french and British battleships are your best target for HE spam.

It has probably the best armament of any tier 8 cruiser but is not tanky or agile.

[___V_E_N_O_M___]

On 11/28/2021 at 4:09 AM, gopher31 said:

Top grade gunner brings it down to 5.5s.

Combined with Lutjens’ skill brings it down to about 5 seconds.

Add max AR to this and you get close to four seconds of reload.

Not as permanent reload. 

 

4 seconds would be situational surely..

[Cpt_ZombZan_GR]

Very good ship enjoyable for me take it!!

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

Mainz is awesome. I do not for the life of me understand why she has 25mm sides when even Yorck is better protected, and she is in essence a sister to Hipper and Eugen, which have 27mm - a big difference  in tiers where 380mm guns are quite common.

Other than that, she is just awesome.

[wot_2016_gunner]

7 hours ago, PsychoClownfish said:

I do not for the life of me understand why she has 25mm

'cause she's a light cruiser and thus she gets standard light cruiser plating, that being 25m at T8+ iirc

[Miscommunication_dept]

11 hours ago, ___V_E_N_O_M___ said:

Not as permanent reload. 

 

4 seconds would be situational surely..

True, but it can still be improved as  @Eagle_Six_TR asserted.

[SolanumTuberosumRex]

14 hours ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

'cause she's a light cruiser and thus she gets standard light cruiser plating, that being 25m at T8+ iirc

Yeah but she's really not now is she? All that BS about it being the guns that make a cruiser light or heavy. Doesn't apply to Mogami. And there are plenty of heavy cruisers who don't have 27mm all around.

And if you take the Hipper hull but change the guns, how does the armor plating lose 2mm's all of a sudden? It makes no sense, but that is WG par for the course of course. It's just that the 2 mm's make a difference.

[Purnylla]

On 11/27/2021 at 3:25 PM, Eagle_Six_TR said:

 

If so then I will buy her with a coupon. I think I can get her reload to some absurd level with the new skills and the commander.

I loved Mainz reload speed.

 

Until I got Friesland/Groningen...

 

If it's reload speed you like, have you considered Atlanta?

[ARE_YOU_HUMAN]

2 hours ago, Purnylla said:

I loved Mainz reload speed.

 

Until I got Friesland/Groningen...

 

If it's reload speed you like, have you considered Atlanta?

I have Atlanta. It's a bit hard to sail her around in the current meta.

[Purnylla]

Just now, Eagle_Six_TR said:

I have Atlanta. It's a bit hard to sail her around in the current meta.

Aye I guess so. I mostly use her in Narai :P