CV Autopilot ISSUE

[SlavicNoOb]

This is something that Wargaming needs to fix. It is simply stupid (I don't want to use another word starting with r).

The problem is the following. You're playing a CV, and you park the CV next to an island and all is good, you play the game. But then you get detected, someone is flanking you, and you give the CV an order via the autopilot to move to another place via the autopilot. And instead of moving forward and running away from the threat, while  you're busy flying the planes and trying to kill whatever is chasing you, the autopilot has figured out that there is not enough space for the CV to move forward, so it has to REVERSE STRAIGHT INTO THE LINE OF FIRE OF THE SAID SHIP THAT IS ATTACKING YOU!!! All of this while there is actually enough space for the CV to actually move forward, i.e. were you to drive the CV manually it would move forward perfectly fine and not crash in any land.

PLEASE WARGAMING FIX THIS. You're a big corporation/company and you SHOULD have the resources to not have fails like this in the game. THANK YOU!!

[bobtherterrible]

Sounds like a feature to me. Imagine having to steer the ship and shoot at the same time. That'd never be possible

[MementoMori_6030]

Are we talking about autopilot for planes, like evading collisions with mountains and wet surfaces like the ocean? Oh, wait.

[bobtherterrible]

11 minutes ago, dN00b said:

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you give the CV an order via the autopilot to move to another place via the autopilot.

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the autopilot has figured out that there is not enough space for the CV to move forward, so it has to REVERSE [snip]

so  supposing WG decides to fix whatever this is, what would you prefer? CVs have stern and bow thrusters so they can move sideways?

[SlavicNoOb]

5 minutes ago, bobtherterrible said:

so  supposing WG decides to fix whatever this is, what would you prefer? CVs have stern and bow thrusters so they can move sideways?

The CV has clear path in front of it, it does not need bow thrusters. The issue is that the autopilot is too cautious, it tries to have too much clearance to the sides in order to move forward. As I said, if you were to not fly the planes and drive the CV manually, all you would have to do is give a command to move forward, and it will, not hitting anything. But if you tell the autopilot to do it it will reverse in most cases because the way it is set it wants more clearance to the sides that it actually needs.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

17 minutes ago, dN00b said:

This is something that Wargaming needs to fix. It is simply stupid (I don't want to use another word starting with r).

The problem is the following. You're playing a CV, and you park the CV next to an island and all is good, you play the game. But then you get detected, someone is flanking you, and you give the CV an order via the autopilot to move to another place via the autopilot. And instead of moving forward and running away from the threat, while  you're busy flying the planes and trying to kill whatever is chasing you, the autopilot has figured out that there is not enough space for the CV to move forward, so it has to REVERSE STRAIGHT INTO THE LINE OF FIRE OF THE SAID SHIP THAT IS ATTACKING YOU!!! All of this while there is actually enough space for the CV to actually move forward, i.e. were you to drive the CV manually it would move forward perfectly fine and not crash in any land.

PLEASE WARGAMING FIX THIS. You're a big corporation/company and you SHOULD have the resources to not have fails like this in the game. THANK YOU!!

While you wait for a WG fix since you asked nicely not using all CAPS for the entire post which is a plus really, you might consider steering your carrier manually out of harms way instead of relying on autmation. It's not like everyone else has to rely on shoddy automated AA with your carrier attacking them. O, wait.

[Chaoskraehe]

It even happens if you park near an island or the map end and nothing is in front or behind you. The auto pilot just bugs out most of the time and switch between moving forward and backwards every few seconds and so the ship doesn't move at all. 

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 2 Minuten, Chaoskraehe sagte:

It even happens if you park near an island or the map end and nothing is in front or behind you. The auto pilot just bugs out most of the time and switch between moving forward and backwards every few seconds and so the ship doesn't move at all. 

Sounds like the autopilot is the only effective counterplay against CV... 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Autopilot isn't smart enough to understand that you are under pressure. Next time park your CV correctly next to the island so that the autopilot has no reason to reverse. It's actually quite easy to do so. So overall this is a matter of git gud

[bobtherterrible]

12 minutes ago, dN00b said:

The CV has clear path in front of it,

 

but you said it didn't

[Bear__Necessities]

Just pick a smooth path of operation. Simple....

[SlavicNoOb]

29 minutes ago, Europizza said:

While you wait for a WG fix since you asked nicely not using all CAPS for the entire post which is a plus really, you might consider steering your carrier manually out of harms way instead of relying on autmation. It's not like everyone else has to rely on shoddy automated AA with your carrier attacking them. O, wait.

At least I didn't say Wargaming do this or I quit... :P

And I don't rly have an issue with AA guns automation.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, dN00b said:

At least I didn't say Wargaming do this or I quit... :P

yes, that makes you a much more valued asset for this forum compared to most others who love to repeat this same threat every week

[Itwastuesday]

51 minutes ago, Chaoskraehe said:

It even happens if you park near an island or the map end and nothing is in front or behind you. The auto pilot just bugs out most of the time and switch between moving forward and backwards every few seconds and so the ship doesn't move at all. 

Yes. Or crash into some island and get stuck. If you gotta move your carrier, I feel like you must do it yourself.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

36 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

yes, that makes you a much more valued asset for this forum compared to most others who love to repeat this same threat every week

It's not like you repeat yourself much Also autopilot rants have never been seen here before, especially demanding it in allcaps ^^

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

I have posted this many times. I've died more to my autopilot than to the reds. It's a balancing feature!

[SlavicNoOb]

20 minutes ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

I have posted this many times. I've died more to my autopilot than to the reds. It's a balancing feature!

It's a sloppy design feature
Actually it is not even sloppy design. The terrain avoidance is fine, the sloppy thing here is the implementation.

[bobtherterrible]

I don't know why they don't just go the whole hog and replace CVs with Island airfields. That would save them having to worry about complicated things like steering and worrying about getting attacked.

[strachwitz]

That's why I often switch to manual control of CV when being sighted/attacked by DD,

1. take control of ship

2. Trying to avoid torps

 

OK you can't assist your team that moment, but dead you can neither.... (well some maybe, but I can't)

 

But basically you should be behind your most strong flank, and thus avoid those situations. But well sometimes one of the buggers will so around the whole bleeping map  to came and torp you....

 

cheers !

 

 

 

[Nibenay78]

4 hours ago, dN00b said:

 the autopilot has figured out that there is not enough space for the CV to move forward, so it has to REVERSE STRAIGHT INTO THE LINE OF FIRE OF THE SAID SHIP THAT IS ATTACKING YOU!!! All of this while there is actually enough space for the CV to actually move forward, i.e. were you to drive the CV manually it would move forward perfectly fine and not crash in any land.

Autopilot is the punishment for playing CV...

[BLUB__BLUB]

3 hours ago, Itwastuesday said:

Yes. Or crash into some island and get stuck. If you gotta move your carrier, I feel like you must do it yourself.

Try moving it into the channel on Two Brothers. 

Works fine, unless there is a friendly ship around... 

[Aethervoxx]

5 hours ago, dN00b said:

playing a CV, and you park

'Anchor' is the proper nautical term.

5 hours ago, dN00b said:

next to an island

Usually a good idea (but not always - many 'noob' CV players anchor exclusively behind an island somewhere, or worse, head for a border or a corner).

5 hours ago, dN00b said:

instead of moving forward and running away from the threat

If you use a short auto-pilot track you should always be able to move forward (unless you are dumb enough to anchor too close to an island & be pointing the wrong way).

5 hours ago, Europizza said:

so it has to REVERSE

Yes, reversing via auto-pilot is frustrating & often leads to disaster.

Two points here, dN00b (btw, your name is really 'st00pid'):

1) Try not to make an auto-pilot order with too much in the way of a turn, especially, anywhere near an island & 

2) Always use just one waypoint order & change it if necessary - this is not difficult while managing your one squadron &, also, I advise keeping a CV (mostly) on the move - again, not difficult to do.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

The fun thing is, a solution would be utterly stupidly easy... give CVs a toggle key to switch from ship to planes and back and have the planes go just straight ahead as long as the player is in ship mode... sure, they might get rekt by AA then, but at least one could get that CV turn on the reverse gear (which most ships don't have/had then, but hey, f*ck realism...) and get on the planes again...

 

Not having that option implemented makes me wonder about the quality of russian coders... or... nah, not really any more...

[Yosha_AtaIante]

5 hours ago, Europizza said:

It's not like you repeat yourself much Also autopilot rants have never been seen here before, especially demanding it in allcaps ^^

at least im not promising to stop playing over and over! I keep my promises and annoy players with CVs since 3 years now

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

1 hour ago, Yosha_nai said:

at least im not promising to stop playing over and over! I keep my promises and annoy players with CVs since 3 years now

The level of mimi banter is growing exponentially inhere. What is this, kindergarten?