[-LDO-] strachwitz Players 35 posts 9,394 battles Report post #1 Posted November 23, 2021 Hi sailors, just came across this on WG news page ...... When the heck you cared about HISTORICAL ACCURACY Next combat mission will probably be to sail up the Spree in a Stalingrad and burn the Reichstag down ... ( 2 max 3 salvos should do it with russian warheads) Jokes aside : I quite like the KM battlecruiser line till now Haya fellows 3 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #2 Posted November 23, 2021 According to renowned historian H.I. Storian WW2 pilots that were brave enough to start an attack run on any enemy ship were known to be invulnurable for some time. 1 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #3 Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, strachwitz said: When the heck you cared about HISTORICAL ACCURACY most of the soviet/russian lines are extremely accurate - cv line being most accurate EVER 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #4 Posted November 23, 2021 It would be funny if it weren't so sad 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Johnny_Moneto Beta Tester 2,903 posts 22,225 battles Report post #5 Posted November 23, 2021 Following the principles of historical accuracy on certain French destroyers the commander would, at times, wave around his mighty baguette thus encouraging his crew to reload the guns twice as fast. That worked only for a limited time as even the mightiest baguette will get, well, soft at some point. 2 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6 Posted November 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, Europizza said: According to renowned historian H.I. Storian WW2 pilots that were brave enough to start an attack run on any enemy ship were known to be invulnurable for some time. Long time historian W.G Lester has given some details about a strange ship, armed with 558mm guns and 203mm secondaries that was able to outright delete most of the german navy and stall the combined fleets of both the USA and UK for 50 years during ww5. Whats that comrade? You disagree? *Muffled screaming* *metal door creaks, open then followed sharply by a loud metallic bang that echos in the now empty and slightly bloody room* Shame. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-LDO-] strachwitz Players 35 posts 9,394 battles Report post #7 Posted November 23, 2021 For game balancing ( and of course HISTORICAL ACCURACY ) WG proudly announces !! MN MISSILE CRUISERS !! (early access 2/2/2022 starting Tier 2) 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #8 Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, strachwitz said: Hi sailors, just came across this on WG news page ...... When the heck you cared about HISTORICAL ACCURACY Next combat mission will probably be to sail up the Spree in a Stalingrad and burn the Reichstag down ... ( 2 max 3 salvos should do it with russian warheads) Jokes aside : I quite like the KM battlecruiser line till now Haya fellows Well, this game is inspired by history and when it is possible and it makes sense for the balance, we follow the principles of historical accuracy... and simply with Agincourt being constructed in this way IRL, she has her nemesis, but her guns can compensate that, if used well... 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #9 Posted November 23, 2021 I think the point is that the historical argument is wheeled out to explain certain issues with the game then disregarded with others as it suits WG. We do notice this. 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #10 Posted November 23, 2021 WG trotting out the historically accurate argument in their typically disingenuous way sadly nothing new but always good for a laugh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #11 Posted November 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: Well, this game is inspired by history and when it is possible and it makes sense for the balance, we follow the principles of historical accuracy... and simply with Agincourt being constructed in this way IRL, she has her nemesis, but her guns can compensate that, if used well... as i pointed out - whole soviet tech tree is remarkable achievement of accuracy ... not just cv's, also bb's carry the same mark of accuracy in fact, wargambling is a measure of accuracy in the world and all the rest envy them for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkollUlfr Players 1,170 posts 6,026 battles Report post #12 Posted November 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: and simply with Agincourt being constructed in this way IRL 52mm ammo for kolberg's 4 SK L/55 aa guns? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #13 Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, strachwitz said: Hi sailors, just came across this on WG news page ...... No, it can't boast about its AA guns because outside of Halland and perhaps Kidd, no ship has effective AA guns. You gutted them to make placebos of pretty fireworks. Remember guys? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-LDO-] strachwitz Players 35 posts 9,394 battles Report post #14 Posted November 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said: No, it can't boast about its AA guns because outside of Halland and perhaps Kidd, no ship has effective AA guns. You gutted them to make placebos of pretty fireworks. Remember guys? Errh, guess you must have missed the ironical sense of my post. I don't f*** care about Schlieffen AA guns --> for fireworks : look at flambass Schlieffen secondary vid.--> now that's very sure historical accurate... wait By the way : why yabbadabbadoe is talking about Agincourt ???? what's the bleeping point ? Agincourt proofs what ???? Anyway : WOWS is never annoying :-) Cheerio my dear baguettes 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] The_Chiv Players 1,592 posts 18,060 battles Report post #15 Posted November 24, 2021 7 hours ago, YabbaCoe said: Well, this game is inspired by history and when it is possible and it makes sense for the balance, we follow the principles of historical accuracy... and simply with Agincourt being constructed in this way IRL, she has her nemesis, but her guns can compensate that, if used well... So the fact Russians have BB's, CV's, and CA's is what exactly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #16 Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, The_Chiv said: So the fact Russians have BB's, CV's, and CA's is what exactly? It is a history of dictator wet dreams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] Johnny_Moneto Beta Tester 2,903 posts 22,225 battles Report post #17 Posted November 24, 2021 Vor 6 Stunden, The_Chiv sagte: So the fact Russians have BB's, CV's, and CA's is what exactly? Obviously they were added to the game for balance reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #18 Posted November 24, 2021 7 hours ago, The_Chiv said: So the fact Russians have BB's, CV's, and CA's is what exactly? Well there were plenty of napkins in Kreml around 1950… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Figment Beta Tester 3,801 posts 10,499 battles Report post #19 Posted November 24, 2021 Historical accuracy? Superior Dutch aerial supremacy says hi. (It's true though that the Fokkers were the highest quality aircraft, until an US manufacturer did a "non-biased" survey of a high profile aircrash in which Fokker's glued wing design - since they wern't made with bolted aluminium - was blamed for clearly totally non-commercial reasons by a company that sold aluminium bolted aircraft and WG clearly reflects this historical injustice by providing the Dutch with aerial supremacy.). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #20 Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, The_Chiv said: So the fact Russians have BB's, CV's, and CA's is what exactly? CVs are indeed based on projects, and plenty of BBs and CAs. But at some point, it is the case also of other nations in game. And I need to say, that several of russian cruisers and BBs in game were actually built and sailed and some were atleast laid down. So to answer your question, it is based on historicity and on historical designs and blueprints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TRID] TheAlba2014 Players 400 posts 6,393 battles Report post #21 Posted November 24, 2021 16 hours ago, YabbaCoe said: Well, this game is inspired by history and when it is possible and it makes sense for the balance, we follow the principles of historical accuracy... and simply with Agincourt being constructed in this way IRL, she has her nemesis, but her guns can compensate that, if used well... So for historical accuracy (but to hell with game balance) you gave a T5 BB zero AA? I suppose Agincourt can join the Arkansas Beta in the naughty corner... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #22 Posted November 24, 2021 16 hours ago, YabbaCoe said: Well, this game is inspired by history and when it is possible and it makes sense for the balance, we follow the principles of historical accuracy... and simply with Agincourt being constructed in this way IRL, she has her nemesis, but her guns can compensate that, if used well... The whole "Historical accuracy" rhetoric breaks down when you can meet ships in game that would never meet in real life as they were from different periods ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #23 Posted November 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, TheAlba2014 said: So for historical accuracy (but to hell with game balance) you gave a T5 BB zero AA? I suppose Agincourt can join the Arkansas Beta in the naughty corner... Yes, we decided to stick to historical accuracy, as she had no AA, but on the other hand, she is strong on her guns. So while playing her, you have keep that in mind. 34 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said: The whole "Historical accuracy" rhetoric breaks down when you can meet ships in game that would never meet in real life as they were from different periods ... Well, in-game we have historically accurate things, but we never said, that the entire game is historically accurate. Well, there are no Axis vs. allies battles (only once tested in separate mode), so you can still shoot with your British ship to the enemy in the same British ship etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] Prophecy82 Players 3,362 posts 26,028 battles Report post #24 Posted November 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, YabbaCoe said: 58 minutes ago, Hugh_Ruka said: Well, in-game we have historically accurate things, but we never said, that the entire game is historically accurate. Well, there are no Axis vs. allies battles (only once tested in separate mode), so you can still shoot with your British ship to the enemy in the same British ship etc. Shouldnt balanz come first and not HA? While were at it, what about Leone, Okhotnik and the ASW situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] YabbaCoe WG Staff, WG Staff, WG Staff 10,676 posts 5,442 battles Report post #25 Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Prophecy82 said: Shouldnt balanz come first and not HA? While were at it, what about Leone, Okhotnik and the ASW situation? Currently, there is no information about the addition of ASW for those two ships now. So we are still gathering data and analyzing them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
