Wargaming could we get Zorkiy as a coal ship?

[Puffin_]

Zorkiy is so much fun.

Is it not time for a good Russian DD

Zorkiy would be good to deal with to many Shimakaze in this game

Is Zorkiy to strong as a T10 ship? No radar, Heal or Hydroacoustic Search

I only have 1 T10 DD (Daring) So I have no idea. 

 

[tocqueville8]

You can swap the smoke for a heal, if you want to: same consumables as on the Kiev ---> Khaba line

[Aethervoxx]

NO!

[doerhoff_damian]

Vor 2 Stunden, Puffin_ sagte:

Zorkiy is so much fun.

Is it not time for a good Russian DD

Zorkiy would be good to deal with to many Shimakaze in this game

Is Zorkiy to strong as a T10 ship? No radar, Heal or Hydroacoustic Search

I only have 1 T10 DD (Daring) So I have no idea. 

Zorky is one of 6 Tier 11 Ships that you can currently test in Coop and Ranked.

They may be playable in Random as well in the Future.

And Maybe they can even become part of a Tech-Tree.

Daring is one of the strongest T 10 DDs

And I can tell you that these Ships are an improvement over their Tier 10 Counterparts of the same Nation and Class.

As you would expect it with Tier 11 Ships

Zorky is an improved Khaba (Maneuverbility and Torp Range)

[Klopirat]

Vor 1 Stunde, doerhoff_damian sagte:

And Maybe they can even become part of a Tech-Tree. 

but this was announced already?

 

and still: this game doesn't need Tier 11 or superships, they are a horrible addition to the game...

[Aetius85]

No to t11, horrible idea

[Camperdown]

8 minutes ago, Aetius85 said:

No to t11, horrible idea

Alas, with WG that's a virtual guarantee it will happen 

[ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib]

3 hours ago, Klopirat said:

but this was announced already?

 

and still: this game doesn't need Tier 11 or superships, they are a horrible addition to the game...

It's good to know that I'm not the only one who thinks SS/T11 are ridiculous addition. 

 

Except Yamagiri and Hannover (two very balanced ships, for Hannover they should bake secondary -just the- range buff to the ship and remove stupid gimmick), rest is steaming pile of horse manure. Not because they are bad ships per se. I love Annapolis for example, but gimmicks have to go. All of them. Annapolis is murderous ship without activating super autoloader. Conde is soooo beyond broken it beggar belief they want that in game. 

 

WG sorta announced already that everybody will have access to those ships if you already have T10 in that line. Everybody. For 1 EXP point. What could possibly go wrong with that??! Even if they'll cost fortune to run, it won't stop super whales getting them right of the bat and unicums don't care about upkeep anyway as they have trillions of credits.

 

As for OP, Zorky for Coal? Nuts. OK, it's Khabarovsk before nerfs, that would be fine in itself; But (like giant fat butt) special firing mode is like 2x IFHE without any penalties and no 4 points wasted on it. Just no. So in space of 3.2 seconds you can deliver 32 130mm shells basically ignoring plating of any ship except BB main belt and some spaced side plating. Every 40 seconds! Even Smolensk can't do that... and Smol is already well Loved by the Community, because HE-spam is so 1990s. Zorky is a Smolensk without the citadel because DDs have access to BFT/AFT (will never learn new names) of old and can shoot faster than Smolensk sacrificing just tiniest bit of range and moving around at ~50kts. It's GLORIOUS idea! Smolensk which isn't named Smolensk, which is (basically) free for all.

[SodaBubbles]

My god dont encourage them.

[Animalul2012]

Just copy paste zorky stats to khaba and maybe give it the alternative fire mode with a tweak or two.Delny as it is, is an atrocity WG cant restore soviet dd glory anymore. The germans,french,british are just one tier above all soviet dds exception being grozovoi and maybe udaloi, the rest? GARBAGE,JUNK,TRASH.

[Puffin_]

3 hours ago, ZaalKoris_vas_QwibQwib said:

As for OP, Zorky for Coal? Nuts. OK, it's Khabarovsk before nerfs, that would be fine in itself; But (like giant fat butt) special firing mode is like 2x IFHE without any penalties and no 4 points wasted on it. Just no. So in space of 3.2 seconds you can deliver 32 130mm shells basically ignoring plating of any ship except BB main belt and some spaced side plating. Every 40 seconds! Even Smolensk can't do that... and Smol is already well Loved by the Community, because HE-spam is so 1990s. Zorky is a Smolensk without the citadel because DDs have access to BFT/AFT (will never learn new names) of old and can shoot faster than Smolensk sacrificing just tiniest bit of range and moving around at ~50kts. It's GLORIOUS idea! Smolensk which isn't named Smolensk, which is (basically) free for all.

The penetration is only 22mm.

With IFHE 27mm but the you only have 6% fire change

Torps are only 8km

No radar, Heal with smoke or Hydro acoustic Search

Concealment is 7.9 km

Is Zorky realy that OP

[Yedwy]

11 hours ago, Puffin_ said:

Zorkiy is so much fun.

Is it not time for a good Russian DD

Zorkiy would be good to deal with to many Shimakaze in this game

Is Zorkiy to strong as a T10 ship? No radar, Heal or Hydroacoustic Search

I only have 1 T10 DD (Daring) So I have no idea. 

How about - no?

[AkerJack]

All superships will be available as tech tree ships in the near future..something that all of us want as you can see from the above comments. Ships with higher post battle expenses designed for one purpose only...sell more premium time.

 

If you want to hunt shimas Daring is a great choise...or use French or European or German DDs.

 

 

 

[Hugh_Ruka]

I would settle for buffing Khabarovsk to Delny kind of rudder shift, that's all I want ... it will be a coal ship anyway ... anything in the 7-8sec rudder on the Khaba would be amazing ...

[ColorsOfRainbows]

It's t11 of course it's to strong for 10

[albin322]

3 hours ago, Puffin_ said:

The penetration is only 22mm.

With IFHE 27mm but the you only have 6% fire change

Torps are only 8km

No radar, Heal with smoke or Hydro acoustic Search

Concealment is 7.9 km

Is Zorky realy that OP

youare so good at balance you must work in wgs balance department ?

[Puffin_]

The joy The joy

This DD can be so wonderful, but sometimes so difficult

A Destroyer that the Russian navy deserve in this game.

 

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

The Zork is fun, but hard.

[BrusilovX]

10 hours ago, Aetius85 said:

No to t11, horrible idea

Like Submarines and Research Bureau?

[Aetius85]

14 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

Like Submarines and Research Bureau?

I think even worse than submarines.

 

I am not against RB, at the end it gives a currency to players which like resetting lines or another way to use fxp, but it not affects gameplay like t11 or subs..I also preferred the old way to give the legendary modules, with missions, but again also this is not a main feature...

[BrusilovX]

48 minutes ago, Aetius85 said:

I think even worse than submarines.

 

I am not against RB, at the end it gives a currency to players which like resetting lines or another way to use fxp, but it not affects gameplay like t11 or subs..I also preferred the old way to give the legendary modules, with missions, but again also this is not a main feature...

I see the problem with the RB is that it's further grinding. Especially as WG keep introducing more lines - so there is no real need for the RB until all research lines are 'complete'.   I know some games are open ended grind sessions but WG have been moving the goalposts way too often.   The changing of the highest captain level 19 to 21 was an example of this.   A level 19 captain had to be ground two more levels to be the equivalent of what they were before.

 

The different currencies (they must have a team inventing them) is also a pain.

[SV_Kompresor]

6 minutes ago, BrusilovX said:

I see the problem with the RB is that it's further grinding.

I see this as a good thing.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

1 hour ago, BrusilovX said:

Like Submarines and Research Bureau?

and Captain Skill reework... CV reework... russian "1st strike is free" CVs...

 

One could get the impression that WG is kinda desperate and trying even the most outragous idea of some "game designers" to get fresh meat into the game...

[koliber_1984]

No, we can't. Zorkiy is the new T11 tech-tree ship being tested now. Khabarovsk will be a coal ship, replaced in the tech-tree by Delniy

[Camperdown]

11 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

and Captain Skill reework... CV reework... russian "1st strike is free" CVs...

 

One could get the impression that WG is kinda desperate and trying even the most outragous idea of some "game designers" to get fresh meat into the game...

Comrade, we have to hit next month's sales targets. Damn those pesky peasant players who want to have a decent game