How Does The Pommern Compare To The Bismarck?

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Hi guys,

 

Just discovered I finally have enough coal and steel to purchase one of these T9 ships and since I've only really enjoyed BB's and found the Bismarck to be a pretty fun and effective BB during the current meta of more and more CV's, subs and whatever else WG vomits on top in the future.

 

I play my Bismarck as a sort of secondary build hybrid whereby A. Main battery accuracy gets priority thus an aiming mod in slot 3 and B. The commander sacrifices concealment expert in favor of IFHE, Long Range Secs and Manual Secs(is there a rude joke in there somewhere? :P). Would this approach also work on the Pom and since it has a 6th slot, still focus on main battery performance via a Main Battery mod to improve reload closer to that of the Bis and give those slow looking turrets the hurry up?

 

Thanks guys.

 

Also, on paper it's down as a ship with "Enhanced Credit Income" and I don't have any higher tier premium ships to compare it with so is it good at making stacks? I don't even know what the best tier to grind credits is yet lol! Also, when are discount "vouchers" issued to us? I don't appear to have any for this ship, perhaps I should wait or do they no apply to this ship? I remember I used to get them once a year but can't remember when that happens, or if it even happens anymore.

 

Another thanks lol. 

[bobtherterrible]

18 minutes ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

Hi guys,

 

Just discovered I finally have enough coal and steel to purchase one of these T9 ships a

 

 

If you're thinking of converting steel to coal, you may want to ponder on the scarcity of steel and maybe wait a little to get enough coal without doing this.

[Peroidas]

22 minutes ago, bobtherterrible said:

If you're thinking of converting steel to coal, you may want to ponder on the scarcity of steel and maybe wait a little to get enough coal without doing this.

Especially now, with coal bonuses from ships TV-VII

[aler1x]

Vor 17 Minuten, Sir_Sinksalot sagte:

 I [..] found the Bismarck to be a pretty fun and effective BB during the current meta of more and more CV's, subs and whatever else WG vomits on top in the future.

Seriously, you did? I also like Bismarck, quite a lot actually, and I can't say she's meta. But then again it's much more important to enjoy a ship rather than it being the optimal choice.

 

Vor 18 Minuten, Sir_Sinksalot sagte:

I play my Bismarck as a sort of secondary build hybrid whereby A. Main battery accuracy gets priority thus an aiming mod in slot 3 and B. The commander sacrifices concealment expert in favor of IFHE, Long Range Secs and Manual Secs(is there a rude joke in there somewhere? :P). Would this approach also work on the Pom and since it has a 6th slot, still focus on main battery performance via a Main Battery mod to improve reload closer to that of the Bis and give those slow looking turrets the hurry up?

For me, this approach does in fact work (minus the accuracy module, I run sec range) and is quite fun to play. It actually does play a bit like an up-tiered Bismarck with more oomph, better hydro (6/4 instead of 5/3.5) and torps, but it is also a bigger, somewhat more sluggish ship in a more competitive MM spread. There are differences, Pommern is due to the torps and less accurate guns a tad more rushy, where Bismarck tries to keep people in the outer fringes of her secondary range with Pommern sometimes you'll just want to charge people head-on. The turret traverse of course does get slower with the reload module in slot 6, but I run that with no turret traverse improvements at all and it's bearable (turret traverse goes to 41.4 seconds, everything below 45 seconds is fine for a BB in my book).

 

Played like that Pommern can be a very fun ship, although definitely not meta or optimal at all and sometimes you'll just burn or get bombed to death while still on the approach. But, as I said above, I don't really care for that and it seems neither do you (which I think is a good thing, don't get it wrong), I just wanted you to be aware of it.

 

But:

Vor 16 Minuten, bobtherterrible sagte:

If you're thinking of converting steel to coal, you may want to ponder on the scarcity of steel and maybe wait a little to get enough coal without doing this.

 

Vor 4 Minuten, Peroidas sagte:

Especially now, with coal bonuses from ships TV-VII

ΠΠΠ   What they said, don't use steel if you don't have to, unless they should decide tomorrow to remove Pommern from the armory and you can't get enough coal before the removal date it's not worth it.

 

Vor 37 Minuten, Sir_Sinksalot sagte:

Also, on paper it's down as a ship with "Enhanced Credit Income" and I don't have any higher tier premium ships to compare it with so is it good at making stacks? I don't even know what the best tier to grind credits is yet

It's T9, as far as I can tell :-)

T9 Premiums, especially BBs and ones you are consistently good with, make a lot of bank, even for non-premium players. Of course Pommern isn't as stupid in this regard as Missouri was, but since Missouri was pretty stupid regular T9 premiums are still quite good. The "enhanced creit income" btw just means it's a premium, it does not make any more or less than other premiums (of the same tier (or tier-for-tier of any tier)) do.

 

Two little intricacies:

First is that in my opinion T9 premiums are actually better at making cash than T10 special ships (stuff like Stalingrad or Thunderer) because those are not premiums, which means they do not make any more base credits than regular T10 ships, their economic bonus is that they pay 50% less upkeep. That's considerable, especially at T10 upkeep fees, but in my experience T9 premiums, maybe with an upkeep reduction flag tacked on, still make more cash overall.

 

Second is that the "ehanced credit income" is an actual increase of the base credit earnings of the ship, like premium, not an ecomomic modifier like flags or camos. Because economic bonuses are additive, i.e. a, say, 50% credit increase means you get an additional 50% increase on your BASE credit earnings that does not take into account any other credit modifiers you might be running, premium ships are the best use for you Zulu and Wyvern flags and for credit camos (if you wish to use those on a premium with a permacamo, that is) since the modifier DOES take into account the credit increase you get from the ship being a premium.

 

Example: Say, you earn 200k base credits in a game. If you run Wyvern flag and a Zulu flag, you get +50% and +20%, both calculated from the base 200k, so 200k + 100k + 40k = 340k in total, 100k of which come from the Wyvern and 40k from the Zulu. If you had the same game in a premium ship, you'd get a base earnings increase of, say, 25% from it being a premium ship (I have no idea what the actual value is and I believe that isn't public at all), so you get 250k base credits. On top of this now come the +50% from the Wyvern and +20% from the Zulu, so this time you get 250k + 125k + 50k = 425k, of which 125k are from the Wyvern and 50k are from the Zulu.

 

Vor 58 Minuten, Sir_Sinksalot sagte:

Also, when are discount "vouchers" issued to us? I don't appear to have any for this ship, perhaps I should wait or do they no apply to this ship? I remember I used to get them once a year but can't remember when that happens, or if it even happens anymore.

You mean the armory ones? You should have one for coal/steel ships that refreshes every half a year or so, the next should be on Dec 15. Did you use it in the last half a year or so? If yes, look under "vouchers" at the very top of the armory screen (next to the search bar and the "buy premium" and "buy doubloons" buttons), there you should see the refresh date. If not, you should be offered the option to use the voucher when you select Pommern from the armory list.

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

I don't even know what the best tier to grind credits is yet lol!

This graphic may help (I'm afraid I don't know who to credit; the original included MO, but I edited that bit out):

 

 

 

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

Don't convert steel to coal. It took me 3 years to get enough steel to get one ship, but it was well worth it. Recent changes to Ranked have made steel even easier to obtain, which has led to a second steel ship, also excellent and great fun. Keep your steel!

 

(The first ship was FDR, by the way and the second was Ragnar).

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

coal and steel

To echo others: there are almost no circumstances where you want to use steel to get a coal ship - steel is far too valuable/hard to get to waste like that; far better to wait until you have a bit more coal.

[aler1x]

Vor 2 Minuten, Bindolaf_Werebane sagte:

(The first ship was FDR, by the way and the second was Ragnar).

Was Ragnar worth it in your opinion, if I may ask?

[Trench4nt]

Vor 1 Stunde, Sir_Sinksalot sagte:

Also, on paper it's down as a ship with "Enhanced Credit Income" and I don't have any higher tier premium ships to compare it with so is it good at making stacks? I don't even know what the best tier to grind credits is yet lol! Also, when are discount "vouchers" issued to us?

 

Well, on paper, best credit income ships are T9 Premiums. However, they are less effective than T10 ships, i.e. you are rather expected to improve your battle performance in a good T10 ship (with the permanent camo). 

 

Don't you have enough research points to buy FdG?. She has almost the same hull and the only trade off is torpedos against main gun caliber (and fewer shells).

 

Nevertheless, Pommern is a great ship for brawling. She is situational, i.e. you do not want to be forced to do backyard sniping, but she can also be very rewarding in closed quarters. And you can increase her performance with Lütjens.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

32 minutes ago, aler1x said:

Was Ragnar worth it in your opinion, if I may ask?

Of course you may ask!

 

I had a lot of apprehension going in. I am strictly free-to-play and my clan is currently not doing clan battles, so steel is not abundant. I am not good at playing destroyers, so there was that. However, I am getting better at destroyers and Ragnar just looked fun. Not broken-fun like Småland (which I missed, because... 2 million free XP? No thanks!) but fun.

 

Boy was it worth it! It's not an easy ship to play, but I will extoll its virtues any day. I haven't played many games, but here are my notes:

 

The bad:

The ship is rather big, rather slow and rather unwieldy.

It has no smoke.

It has no torpedoes.

The concealment is rather small (so detectability is high).

 

The good:

Ragnar has a lot of hit points. The heals only augment the effect.

It has great armor!

The guns are great. Accurate, with fast reload, big calibre, good ballistics and killer AP (see what I did there).

The concealment is workable.

The radar is good (good range and duration). A lot of people still don't know Ragnar has radar (surprise)!

Did I mention the guns?

 

[tocqueville8]

 

1 hour ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

I play my Bismarck as a sort of secondary build hybrid whereby A. Main battery accuracy gets priority thus an aiming mod in slot 3 and B. The commander sacrifices concealment expert in favor of IFHE, Long Range Secs and Manual Secs(is there a rude joke in there somewhere? :P). Would this approach also work on the Pom and since it has a 6th slot, still focus on main battery performance via a Main Battery mod to improve reload closer to that of the Bis and give those slow looking turrets the hurry up?

 

Just like Bismarck, Pommern has good stock turret traverse for a BB, 36 s for 180°.

 

If you take the main battery reload module, it becomes > 40 s, which is...manageable, but uncomfortable. So you'll probably want to take Grease the Gears.

As a result, you would have used a module and 2 cpt points to get 12% better rate of fire on your main guns. That 12% doesn't help when snapshotting an enemy that only appears long enough for 1 salvo, a fairly common occurrence, so in practice it's even less than what it seems.

 

Now, I don't have a Pommern, but I run the Auxiliary Armament Module 2 on my FdG and GK (and République, in the past), which buffs secondaries and AA: pushing exposes you more to CVs, and CVs are more common these days due to the release of the Soviet line.

Imho that's the way to go on a dedicated brawler, and you'd have 2 cpt points more for your builds: for instance, Vigilance is a nice perk to have when you lead the way during a charge.

 

 

HOWEVER, since this is your first *expensive* coal purchase, you should look around to see if something else might interest you.

Pommern is just a bigger Bismarck, or a sidegrade from the FdG, but other coal ships are more unique, at least if you haven't grinded many lines to T9-10.

Of the coal ships that are now in the Armory, and that I own, I find the Napoli too hard to be reliable, but Salem and Marceau are fairly easy to do well in, with an appropriate build. And you might not have a tech-tree equivalent.

 

Just a thought.

 

Cheers 

[Pururut]

Bismarck is a fail boat and Pommern is even more so. Powerful and inaccurate guns (1.5 sigma jesus christ), good AP without overmatching capabilities, secondaries but terrible concealment, highly AP resistant armor profile with turtleback which happens to be highly vulnerable to HE shells thanks to its large superstructure, hydro but terrible manueverability, torpedoes for brawling... in completely exposed mounts. The strong points simply dont synergize well unless it is a 1 on 1 fight in which German battleships are arguably the best. Unfortunately this is a team game and HE shells dont need to penetrate in order to start a fire and your heavily captain/module reliant oversized battleship can easily be deterred by a single gunboat DD or a light cruiser. 

 

Pommern does have a strong point however; HE shells with subpar alpha but %34 fire chance. Combining that with a 12 gun broadside might yield some interesting results. As for why would you play a German ship like a British wannabe, I dont know. Then again I dont know why people bother with German battleships in the first place either.

 

TL;DR Get October Revolution. It is the same as Pommern but without belt armor and torpedoes neither of which will be necessary at tier 5 as long as you angle. 

 

 

[totally_potato]

2 hours ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

Hi guys,

 

Just discovered I finally have enough coal and steel to purchase one of these T9 ships and since I've only really enjoyed BB's and found the Bismarck to be a pretty fun and effective BB during the current meta of more and more CV's, subs and whatever else WG vomits on top in the future.

 

I play my Bismarck as a sort of secondary build hybrid whereby A. Main battery accuracy gets priority thus an aiming mod in slot 3 and B. The commander sacrifices concealment expert in favor of IFHE, Long Range Secs and Manual Secs(is there a rude joke in there somewhere? :P). Would this approach also work on the Pom and since it has a 6th slot, still focus on main battery performance via a Main Battery mod to improve reload closer to that of the Bis and give those slow looking turrets the hurry up?

 

Thanks guys.

 

Also, on paper it's down as a ship with "Enhanced Credit Income" and I don't have any higher tier premium ships to compare it with so is it good at making stacks? I don't even know what the best tier to grind credits is yet lol! Also, when are discount "vouchers" issued to us? I don't appear to have any for this ship, perhaps I should wait or do they no apply to this ship? I remember I used to get them once a year but can't remember when that happens, or if it even happens anymore.

 

Another thanks lol. 

Pommern is basically a bigger tirpitz. 

Inaccurate guns but unlike Tirpitz which gets better than average reload, Pommie gets a lot of guns instead. She gets torps and hydro (unlike Tirp which doesn't get hydro), and 12 guns make her hit fairly hard and not miss a ton if aimed correctly. Kind of a hybrid of Bismarck, Tirpitz, GK and FDG. FDG hull aka good secs, turtleback, more deck than Kremlin. 

 

She is really fun and one of the best brawlers in the game atm, so get her

A reminder tho, don't convert steel to coal. Steel isn't like coal, where you get it from containers. Its a rare resource that only very good players have a large stock of. So wait a bit to get more coal from containers and crap, and also use your coupon. That should do it

[totally_potato]

51 minutes ago, Pururut said:

Bismarck is a fail boat and Pommern is even more so. Powerful and inaccurate guns (1.5 sigma jesus christ), good AP without overmatching capabilities, secondaries but terrible concealment, highly AP resistant armor profile with turtleback which happens to be highly vulnerable to HE shells thanks to its large superstructure, hydro but terrible manueverability, torpedoes for brawling... in completely exposed mounts. The strong points simply dont synergize well unless it is a 1 on 1 fight in which German battleships are arguably the best. Unfortunately this is a team game and HE shells dont need to penetrate in order to start a fire and your heavily captain/module reliant oversized battleship can easily be deterred by a single gunboat DD or a light cruiser. 

 

Pommern does have a strong point however; HE shells with subpar alpha but %34 fire chance. Combining that with a 12 gun broadside might yield some interesting results. As for why would you play a German ship like a British wannabe, I dont know. Then again I dont know why people bother with German battleships in the first place either.

 

TL;DR Get October Revolution. It is the same as Pommern but without belt armor and torpedoes neither of which will be necessary at tier 5 as long as you angle. 

 

 

British wannabe? German ships are weak? 

 

Have you drank too much english tea for breakfast sir? 

[Pururut]

1 hour ago, totally_potato said:

German ships are weak? 

Not weak, ineffective. 

1 hour ago, totally_potato said:

Have you drank too much english tea for breakfast sir? 

Turks dont drink green tea in the morning. 

[Itwastuesday]

No. Get FdG - which is mostly same hull as Pommern anyway - and grind it ASAP so you can get Kurfürst as special ship and then get Preussen, without spending any coal. If you decide, after playing a bunch of FdG, that you'd REALLY love to have it with 12 guns but worse accuracy (but with 6km torps) then you might have enough purely coal anyway to get Pommern. Win-win-win!

 

If you're F2P and are looking for a credit earner right now and here, then idk. Maybe.

[colonel_duce]

31 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said:

No. Get FdG - which is mostly same hull as Pommern anyway - and grind it ASAP so you can get Kurfürst as special ship and then get Preussen, without spending any coal. If you decide, after playing a bunch of FdG, that you'd REALLY love to have it with 12 guns but worse accuracy (but with 6km torps) then you might have enough purely coal anyway to get Pommern. Win-win-win!

 

If you're F2P and are looking for a credit earner right now and here, then idk. Maybe.

i second that, grind to GK first, it will be special ship soon, just like Moskva.

 

Regarding Pommern, i do have Tirpitz and Brandeburg as well, all secondary specced.

Brandenburg is fun ship, but it has unreliable armor and guns, additional downside is that you are being targeted with priority (at least i am), must be played cautiously, it`s Scharnhorst on Tier 8.
Tirpitz, dont think it needs any comment. Tirpitz is Tirpitz.

Pommern, 12 Tirpitz guns in FdG hull, in short to midrange it is devastating ship, especially to cruisers.

I would say from these 3, Tirpitz is the best one, it`s maneuverable as Brandenburg and has more reliable armor, Pommern feels extremely sluggish, although it is the strongest ship from these 3.

Anyway, it`s fun ship to play, all of them are. However the 2nd BB line seems to be even better than all of these.

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Ya fair enough I'll play those snowflake ships for a bit and collect as much coal as I can tolerate with those idiotic co-op yolo efforts lol. Really generous that actually to be fair... so long as you can keep going before getting brain numb that is.

 

By the way, isn't the FdG considered a poor T9 BB? I remember asking about the higher tier German BB's and drew the line at the Bismarck after it was suggested that the FdG was pile of elephant dung and the GK was an ungainly lump and didn't bother with them, instead turning my attention to the IJN BB line(Izumo unlocked btw) and a side order of US fast BB line. 

 

Also, in regards the FdG, why are the smaller 406mm guns recommended over the 420mm? I remember reading how it's rear turret was hard to use without showing way too much broadside too... and you guys think this is better than the Pommern? So the Pommern isn't actually good either then?

[totally_potato]

6 hours ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

Ya fair enough I'll play those snowflake ships for a bit and collect as much coal as I can tolerate with those idiotic co-op yolo efforts lol. Really generous that actually to be fair... so long as you can keep going before getting brain numb that is.

 

By the way, isn't the FdG considered a poor T9 BB? I remember asking about the higher tier German BB's and drew the line at the Bismarck after it was suggested that the FdG was pile of elephant dung and the GK was an ungainly lump and didn't bother with them, instead turning my attention to the IJN BB line(Izumo unlocked btw) and a side order of US fast BB line. 

 

Also, in regards the FdG, why are the smaller 406mm guns recommended over the 420mm? I remember reading how it's rear turret was hard to use without showing way too much broadside too... and you guys think this is better than the Pommern? So the Pommern isn't actually good either then?

honestly, the ones who still say FDG is a weak ship are either saying out of their arse, or they can't utilize it properly

I mean think about FDG. Poor guy received a ton of buffs over the years.

 

FDG also stops a push fairly well. If you go secondary tank on it, you are literally providing a full area denial zone with your secondaries and fast reloading 406mm guns. 

FDG's rear firing angles are actually quite nice. So FDG can put itself in a kiting position with all firepower. 

In short, in her current state, she has 8 16" guns with super cruiser reload and "decent" dispersion, good secondaries, good armor scheme with very high levels of deck protection, good rear firing angles, German hydro, and fast speed, with poor conceal and maneuverability.

FDG I think, tier for tier, is the best German BB we have, that aren't the new Ger BCs (ofc apart from Gneisenau).

 

FDG, has only 8 guns, so there is a fair chance that your results will not be very impressive. So the more shells you pump out, the better. Hence I recommend the 406mm over the 420mm in FDG. The FDG 406mm guns gets a 23 sec reload with reload mod, without taking into account AR, or crap like CQC or Furious (providing you have them ofc).

 

FDG is better than Pommern in the gun department, so overall, its a more versatile fighter, but Pommie takes more specialization into brawling, and it [edited]smashes everyone in it.

[totally_potato]

9 hours ago, Pururut said:

Not weak, ineffective.

Nein!!

9 hours ago, Pururut said:

Turks dont drink green tea in the morning. 

No wonder

[Sir_Sinksalot]

16 hours ago, Pururut said:

Bismarck is a fail boat and Pommern is even more so. Powerful and inaccurate guns (1.5 sigma jesus christ),

 

 

 

lol ya, just saw that sigma. In ways I dare say the Pommern is French BB like? Small caliber guns for her tier, hideous sigma and dispersion but with a French way of overcoming these snags by way just adding more guns to the ships in hopes that by saturating a large dispersion area with a hundred shells, SOME will hit and make up for the 90 shells that don't hit. 

 

You know something, I kinda like that about the Normandie and Lyon. Does this mean the Pommern plays a bit more like an Alsace than a typical German BB? 

 

Here's the thing, my options are just 3 ships too. I don't have any particular draw towards German BB's, actually prefer IJN right now BUT, if not the Pommern then it's either the newish oddball CV/BB hybrid thingy which actually does look tempting because it has 4X3 406mm boomers that yes have sad 700ms shells but I've been playing very similar guns recently on the North Carolina and become used to it... so maybe that would work. Finally, as you guys know(preaching to the choir here) there's the Italian stallion.

 

I don't have any Italian commander, not a big deal tbh, but her guns are short on range and have a really slow looking reload, no idea what to expect and it's a big commitment of all my coal for a complete unknown nation of BB's that from reading comments on this forum, would suggest are mostly crappy... hence the Pommern seems the most "normal" BB with a somewhat predictable looking German(ish) playsytle and I have no credits to buy a tech tree T9 BB yet so would like a credit grinder that's A. good at grinding credits. B. Fun to play. I don't want grinding credits becoming feeling like a chore, would love to actually enjoy the ship that's doing it.

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

19 hours ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

Hi guys,

 

Just discovered I finally have enough coal and steel to purchase one of these T9 ships and since I've only really enjoyed BB's and found the Bismarck to be a pretty fun and effective BB during the current meta of more and more CV's, subs and whatever else WG vomits on top in the future.

 

I play my Bismarck as a sort of secondary build hybrid whereby A. Main battery accuracy gets priority thus an aiming mod in slot 3 and B. The commander sacrifices concealment expert in favor of IFHE, Long Range Secs and Manual Secs(is there a rude joke in there somewhere? :P). Would this approach also work on the Pom and since it has a 6th slot, still focus on main battery performance via a Main Battery mod to improve reload closer to that of the Bis and give those slow looking turrets the hurry up?

 

Thanks guys.

 

Also, on paper it's down as a ship with "Enhanced Credit Income" and I don't have any higher tier premium ships to compare it with so is it good at making stacks? I don't even know what the best tier to grind credits is yet lol! Also, when are discount "vouchers" issued to us? I don't appear to have any for this ship, perhaps I should wait or do they no apply to this ship? I remember I used to get them once a year but can't remember when that happens, or if it even happens anymore.

 

Another thanks lol. 

 

First of all, friendly advice, never ever sell Steel for Coal... Coal is so much easier to get!

 

Also in 2+ weeks you will have coupon reset for 25% OFF for Coal / Steel ships!

 

BTW, I think of my Pommern as bigger Tirpitz (and Tirpitz was my very first "Premium" and my most played ship) - I love her!

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

[Ocsimano18]

Bismarck is much more versatile on T8, than Pommern on T9, especially if you use the gun accuracy module on Bismarck. You can use the same module on Pommern, but the guns are stll lacking and even more handicapped with a lot more games involving long range shooting. Also the handling of the Pommern is much worse. When I first moved from Bismarck to FdG, I did not understand how it was supposed to be an improvment, especially because of the handling. Bismarck moves like a battle cruiser, while Pommern is much more of a brick. Pommern can be fun, but has a lot of frustrating games. She’s excellent in 3 vs 3 or 1 vs 1 modes, but you see those rarerly.

 

I would’t say to try FdG first, as FdG has less guns and more frequent reload, feels like a different ship. There are not much coal BB options at the moment, Marco is still weak, Kearsarge is the strongest of the pack but has a high skill floor.

 

I also spent some steel on coal ships, when my steel gathering was so slow that I would only had chance to get a steel ship in years. I regretted it a bit later, when I was close to get my first steel ship, but not that much.

 

You can wait and see if there is a better coal ship coming for Christmas, like the Verdi is kind to expected to come out soon.

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Thanks and you actually partially answered another question I wanted to ask which is this.

 

There are only 3 T9 BB's available for coal right now. It's taken me a very long time to get to the position to have enough coal and steal(ok ok don't spend steal on coal ships lol!! :P) to actually be able to purchase one of these T9 coal BB's and obviously I don't want to waste all that coal on a rather mediocre or worse, a weak T9 BB that's not fun to play. So what I wanted to also ask is if you guys have insight(including any devs that might read this), hint or encountered any suggestion that there might be a better T9 coal BB on the way to armor soon and that I should just sit tight and wait for a bit?

 

Thanks.

[Ocsimano18]

52 minutes ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

Thanks and you actually partially answered another question I wanted to ask which is this.

 

There are only 3 T9 BB's available for coal right now. It's taken me a very long time to get to the position to have enough coal and steal(ok ok don't spend steal on coal ships lol!! :P) to actually be able to purchase one of these T9 coal BB's and obviously I don't want to waste all that coal on a rather mediocre or worse, a weak T9 BB that's not fun to play. So what I wanted to also ask is if you guys have insight(including any devs that might read this), hint or encountered any suggestion that there might be a better T9 coal BB on the way to armor soon and that I should just sit tight and wait for a bit?

 

Thanks.

I only know about Verdi coming soon^tm, and so far she has 3x3 406mm guns, 1.7 sigma, 19,1km range, 30sec base reload. Also, we don’t know the currency yet, but we already have a T9 Italian for coal… on the other hand WG can better monetize coal ships with directly selling them for cash, so who knows. Also Marlboro is coming to the dockyard, but she seems to be questionable, and you have to pay for her, but less than for a full fledged T9 premium. Basically you could invest in Marlboro, and continue to collect your coal for Napoli, or gonfor the Carnot. But I’d wait for some reviews on Marlboro first, as you would not want to invest in a Hizen or worse quality ship. The best T9 BBs were Jean-Bart and Georgia, but they are no longer freely obtainable.