[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #1 Posted November 19, 2021 I think there are quite a few who missed out on getting the standard ships. Now you can buy the black version for doubloons. https://armory.worldofwarships.eu/en/category/event_2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted November 19, 2021 Ofc they are was there ever any doubt they would? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #3 Posted November 19, 2021 The containers with their chances btw 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #4 Posted November 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said: The containers with their chances btw 0,32% that is not a chance, that is insanity. good for them that they are AGAIN selling tier 10 ship 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #5 Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said: 0,32% that is not a chance, that is insanity. my thoughts exactly when i saw it. Buuuuuut, if you throw you credit card at us, you have 37.5 times the chance of getting a ship. YOU GREEDY 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #6 Posted November 19, 2021 So [edited]happy. After last year when I got Alaska, even tho I already own Alaska. This year I got Atlanta...... even tho I already own atlanta. Thx WG! Is it even possible to get B variant of a ship I don't own? Or you just dropping duplicates? What is even the point in giving out copies of same ships? @Crysantos @MrConway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #7 Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, quickr said: So [edited]happy. After last year when I got Alaska, even tho I already own Alaska. This year I got Atlanta...... even tho I already own atlanta. Thx WG! Is it even possible to get B variant of a ship I don't own? Or you just dropping duplicates? What is even the point in giving out copies of same ships? @Crysantos @MrConway beacouse then they dont have to give you another ship or doublons. Getting a perma black camo for the ship we got would make much more sense,but WG says they are not the same ship 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #8 Posted November 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said: 0,32% that is not a chance, that is insanity. good for them that they are AGAIN selling tier 10 ship Why, you ungrateful bastard! You only need to buy 300 containers to get a ship! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DEH] hellhound666 Beta Tester 1,978 posts Report post #9 Posted November 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, quickr said: So [edited]happy. After last year when I got Alaska, even tho I already own Alaska. This year I got Atlanta...... even tho I already own atlanta. Thx WG! Is it even possible to get B variant of a ship I don't own? Or you just dropping duplicates? What is even the point in giving out copies of same ships? @Crysantos @MrConway i suggest that you will try next year again and after getting the same result you can post again the same topic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,310 battles Report post #10 Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Camperdown said: Why, you ungrateful bastard! You only need to buy 300 containers to get a ship! actually not. since every container has that drop chance, not that after 200 one,your chance increase. even after container number 389 chance is stil 0,32,so you actually might never get ship. they did say that they will change that, i dont think it works on black containers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,239 battles Report post #11 Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, hellhound666 said: i suggest that you will try next year again and after getting the same result you can post again the same topic ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #12 Posted November 19, 2021 @Crysantos @MrConway Would you let us know if the GUARANTEED DROP mechanic applies to the Black Friday containers as well? re-posting it here for those who didn't saw that dev blog GUARANTEED DROP That's why, besides probabilities for containers, we've also created a special mechanic a while back which guarantees that a certain item group with a reward will drop after a specific number of containers were opened. This mechanic protects players from severe "bad luck" and works the same way for everybody. The only thing taken into consideration is the number of containers of the same type opened by a player. For example, if you don't get the "Ships" item group drop after opening specific number of containers containers, then the next container opened is guaranteed to drop a reward from this group. The counter for a guaranteed drop of a certain item is reset when this item is dropped, be it randomly or because of the counter being triggered. Drop rates are stated without consideration of this mechanic, as it just forces the specific reward without random. Together with its drop rates, we will also let you know if this mechanic is present and what its settings are when a container becomes available so that you can have a full understanding of how it works so that that you can make an informed decision when purchasing containers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FALX] Hakssor Players 487 posts Report post #13 Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, wot_2016_gunner said: @Crysantos @MrConway Would you let us know if the GUARANTEED DROP mechanic applies to the Black Friday containers as well? re-posting it here for those who didn't saw that dev blog GUARANTEED DROP That's why, besides probabilities for containers, we've also created a special mechanic a while back which guarantees that a certain item group with a reward will drop after a specific number of containers were opened. This mechanic protects players from severe "bad luck" and works the same way for everybody. The only thing taken into consideration is the number of containers of the same type opened by a player. For example, if you don't get the "Ships" item group drop after opening specific number of containers containers, then the next container opened is guaranteed to drop a reward from this group. The counter for a guaranteed drop of a certain item is reset when this item is dropped, be it randomly or because of the counter being triggered. Drop rates are stated without consideration of this mechanic, as it just forces the specific reward without random. Together with its drop rates, we will also let you know if this mechanic is present and what its settings are when a container becomes available so that you can have a full understanding of how it works so that that you can make an informed decision when purchasing containers. The premium ones do have it, after the 20th container. Says just at the end of their description. The free ones no. With that abysmal rate, getting a ship from them is more like a fantasy than a probability. I'm still debating if they are worth even 99 dubs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #14 Posted November 19, 2021 Those Black camos are really good looking; some of the best designs in the game in my opinion. I've been hoping for them to release a USS Black Black, but no luck so far. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UWUWU] Kiagy Players 409 posts 9,933 battles Report post #15 Posted November 19, 2021 Keep in mind the drop rate for camos is 50% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harvin87 Players 269 posts 3,656 battles Report post #16 Posted November 19, 2021 2 horas antes, wot_2016_gunner dijo: @Crysantos @MrConway Would you let us know if the GUARANTEED DROP mechanic applies to the Black Friday containers as well? re-posting it here for those who didn't saw that dev blog GUARANTEED DROP That's why, besides probabilities for containers, we've also created a special mechanic a while back which guarantees that a certain item group with a reward will drop after a specific number of containers were opened. This mechanic protects players from severe "bad luck" and works the same way for everybody. The only thing taken into consideration is the number of containers of the same type opened by a player. For example, if you don't get the "Ships" item group drop after opening specific number of containers containers, then the next container opened is guaranteed to drop a reward from this group. The counter for a guaranteed drop of a certain item is reset when this item is dropped, be it randomly or because of the counter being triggered. Drop rates are stated without consideration of this mechanic, as it just forces the specific reward without random. Together with its drop rates, we will also let you know if this mechanic is present and what its settings are when a container becomes available so that you can have a full understanding of how it works so that that you can make an informed decision when purchasing containers. "For example, if you don't get the "Ships" item group drop after opening specific number of containers containers, then the next container opened is guaranteed to drop a reward from this group. " That's actually scary as well.... that "specific number of containers" could very well be 100 LMAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,167 battles Report post #17 Posted November 19, 2021 I appreciate the announcement on the % for getting a ship. So for the category “ premium ship” you know it is atleast 12% or 0,32%. But after being lucky and getting the main category prize, how does the follow up allocation work? Like if you have none of the ships, and I hope most for e.g. Scharnhorst B, it’s 1/ 16 chance or do some ships receive the Makarov treatment? Like even without “ Makarov” mechanics earlier Xmas crates clearly showed bias towards low tier before mid tier before high tier before rare ships. And if you own some B ships ( like fe 6) does the basic 12% stay the same but you continue to roll on a smaller table so my chance to get that Scharnhorst B is now 1 out of 10? Or do you still roll on 16 but if you roll an already owned ship ( this case 6/16) you reroll? And which reroll, the ships table or the initial one ( that with 12% chance)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] black_falcon120 Beta Tester 1,693 posts 4,658 battles Report post #18 Posted November 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said: I appreciate the announcement on the % for getting a ship. So for the category “ premium ship” you know it is atleast 12% or 0,32%. But after being lucky and getting the main category prize, how does the follow up allocation work? Like if you have none of the ships, and I hope most for e.g. Scharnhorst B, it’s 1/ 16 chance or do some ships receive the Makarov treatment? Like even without “ Makarov” mechanics earlier Xmas crates clearly showed bias towards low tier before mid tier before high tier before rare ships. And if you own some B ships ( like fe 6) does the basic 12% stay the same but you continue to roll on a smaller table so my chance to get that Scharnhorst B is now 1 out of 10? Or do you still roll on 16 but if you roll an already owned ship ( this case 6/16) you reroll? And which reroll, the ships table or the initial one ( that with 12% chance)? If they got caught doing that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HPF] Ocsimano18 Players 3,476 posts 13,949 battles Report post #19 Posted November 19, 2021 5 hours ago, quickr said: So [edited]happy. After last year when I got Alaska, even tho I already own Alaska. This year I got Atlanta...... even tho I already own atlanta. Thx WG! Is it even possible to get B variant of a ship I don't own? Or you just dropping duplicates? What is even the point in giving out copies of same ships? @Crysantos @MrConway You can directly buy the ship you want and of which you don’t have the non black version yet. Why did you go gambling, knowing that it could drop any of the 16 ships? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harvin87 Players 269 posts 3,656 battles Report post #20 Posted November 19, 2021 2 horas antes, Ocsimano18 dijo: You can directly buy the ship you want and of which you don’t have the non black version yet. Why did you go gambling, knowing that it could drop any of the 16 ships? This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #21 Posted November 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Jvd2000 said: And if you own some B ships ( like fe 6) does the basic 12% stay the same but you continue to roll on a smaller table so my chance to get that Scharnhorst B is now 1 out of 10? Or do you still roll on 16 but if you roll an already owned ship ( this case 6/16) you reroll? And which reroll, the ships table or the initial one ( that with 12% chance)? As I understand it, the basic chance of getting *a* ship stays the same, regardless of how many you have already - provided you don't have all of them; supposedly, once you roll a ship, what you get is determined randomly from those you don't have. So, your basic chance of getting *a* ship stays the same as long as there is at least one that you haven't got yet; once you've rolled *a* ship, you then roll again against the list of things you don't have yet. In my case, I had all the previous years' ships (yeah, I know...), so the first ship to drop was - supposedly - randomly determined from those I didn't have, and I got Yoshino; next one, there were even fewer possibilities, and I got Loyang. Once you have everything on the 'ships' list, the chance of getting *any* ship drops to zero (so the old route to getting doubloons for duplicates is closed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #22 Posted November 19, 2021 Here we go again.. "We will never sell tier 10" Yoshino 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ARRSE] cracktrackflak Weekend Tester 947 posts Report post #23 Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Ronchabale said: Here we go again.. "We will never sell tier 10" Yoshino To be fair, at £83 for a Yoshino, "we will never sell tier 10" is probably a true statement... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #24 Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, cracktrackflak said: To be fair, at £83 for a Yoshino, "we will never sell tier 10" is probably a true statement... Time will tell, maybe someday soon u will see a Yoshino sailing around the map in a irratic /confused way, then u will know.. (I think highly possible we will see a few Black Yoshis derping in the near future) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,495 battles Report post #25 Posted November 19, 2021 15 hours ago, gopher31 said: I think there are quite a few who missed out on getting the standard ships. Now you can buy the black version for doubloons. https://armory.worldofwarships.eu/en/category/event_2 You forgot Asashio B 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites