some missions for Novorossiysk is too hard for common player!

[VedranSeaWolf359]

I watch details of Novorossiysk missions group and I think that some of it is too hard for common player

 

1. Mission 5 of first objectives in one battle got 2500 base XP

2. Mission 5 of second objectives in one battle got 12 citadel hits

3. Mission 5 of third objective in one battle get 220.000 damage to hips

4. Mission 5 of 4 objective in one battle get 5 destroyed ships 

5. Mission 5 of 5 objectives in one battle got 2700 base XP

 

This is too hard and crazy I would like do see all devs are it able to finish all that objectives!

If you want give us ship for free with grinding be realistic and made objectives which is able to pass to most of players! not 5 % 10% of it best of best THIS IS Tier VI SHIP not tier X with superpowers!

 

I hope that you will made patch and redone it or give us something for apologies!

[Klopirat]

Vor 2 Minuten, VedranSeaWolf359 sagte:

I watch details of Novorossiysk missions group and I think that some of it is too hard for common player

as usual you don't need all tasks for the missions...

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

I watch details of Novorossiysk missions group and I think that some of it is too hard for common player

 

1. Mission 5 of first objectives in one battle got 2500 base XP

2. Mission 5 of second objectives in one battle got 12 citadel hits

3. Mission 5 of second third objective in one battle get 220.000 damage to hips

4. Mission 5 of 4 objective in one battle get 5 destroyed ships 

5. Mission 5 of 5 objectives in one battle got 2700 base XP

 

This is too hard and crazy I would like do see all devs are it able to finish all that objectives!

If you want give us ship for free with grinding be realistic and made objectives which is able to pass to most of players! not 5 % 10% of it best of best THIS IS Tier VI SHIP not tier X with superpowers!

 

I hope that you will made patch and redone it or give us something for apologies!

Its your chance to learn how to play the game well and get better to recieve good rewards for free. 

 

Imagine trying harder for rewards 

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

1 minute ago, Yosha_nai said:

Its your chance to learn how to play the game well and get better to recieve good rewards for free. 

 

Imagine trying harder for rewards 

 

@VedranSeaWolf359 has problems with his hands - it is not how good he knows the game and how good he is playing...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[VedranSeaWolf359]

My deep apologies to all devs I didn't see that we don't need to finish all of objectives!  mea culpa!

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

8 minutes ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

I watch details of Novorossiysk missions group and I think that some of it is too hard for common player

 

1. Mission 5 of first objectives in one battle got 2500 base XP

2. Mission 5 of second objectives in one battle got 12 citadel hits

3. Mission 5 of third objective in one battle get 220.000 damage to hips

4. Mission 5 of 4 objective in one battle get 5 destroyed ships 

5. Mission 5 of 5 objectives in one battle got 2700 base XP

 

This is too hard and crazy I would like do see all devs are it able to finish all that objectives!

If you want give us ship for free with grinding be realistic and made objectives which is able to pass to most of players! not 5 % 10% of it best of best THIS IS Tier VI SHIP not tier X with superpowers!

 

I hope that you will made patch and redone it or give us something for apologies!

 

Vedran, luckily you only have to finish 5 missions of your ability / choosing... the ones that are too hard are thus irrelevant! 

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

@VedranSeaWolf359 has problems with his hands - it is not how good he knows the game and how good he is playing...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

Okay. That's an exception but so is life I guess? There are many disabilities yet the world can't acconadate for all of them. You can't go mountain climbing in a wheelchair for example. There will always be content in games inaccessible for certain people. If he had this disability for long he should be able to understand and cope with the limitations he sadly has to work with. 

[Dutchy_2019]

1 minute ago, Yosha_nai said:

Okay. That's an exception but so is life I guess? There are many disabilities yet the world can't acconadate for all of them. You can't go mountain climbing in a wheelchair for example. There will always be content in games inaccessible for certain people. If he had this disability for long he should be able to understand and cope with the limitations he sadly has to work with. 

 

Yosha_nai

 

He undoubtedly already does, and knows all about that. And he is well aware of content that is unavailable for him because of his disability. He usually is able to work with them, or trying to work around them. And as he has already pointed out, he knows he misread the assignments.

 

BTW, note that many the seventh objectives of each stage are probably out of reasonable reach for 90% or more of the player base (in Randoms) - i.e. unless they have a flash in the pan lucky game, they chances of them getting them are very small.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

Yosha_nai

 

He undoubtedly already does, and knows all about that. And he is well aware of content that is unavailable for him because of his disability. He usually is able to work with them, or trying to work around them. And as he has already pointed out, he knows he misread the assignments.

 

BTW, note that many the seventh objectives of each stage are probably out of reasonable reach for 90% or more of the player base (in Randoms) - i.e. unless they have a flash in the pan lucky game, they chances of them getting them are very small.

My post was typed while he wrote that he understood. I was merely answering LeoApollo. I also wanted to have it unedited to display my opinion on games simply having and needing more difficult tasks for players who want and can try hard to reward them equally for such trying. 

Many games have high end goals only a little amount of the actual player base has access to as to make such a reward special and feel special. Making it availible and accessible for anyone to just get it devalues it and decreases the motivation to go for such. I personally believe games need to have such special tasks for people who are willing to go to such lengths so they can feel rewarded for it. This is just my opinion on it. It's sad that there can be disabilities that limit a player who otherwise would have the mindset and resolve to grind it otherwise. 

[VedranSeaWolf359]

I will open new topic in which I will ask players to say which is its record in these categories :)

 

Mine is:

Random: in one battle 2611 base XP, 4 ships and about 6 citadels, avenge 784XP, 150.000HP damage

Ranked: in one battle 3840 base XP, 4 ships and about 6 citadels, avenge 1114XP, 114.000HP damage

[Dutchy_2019]

5 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

My post was typed while he wrote that he understood. I was merely answering LeoApollo. I also wanted to have it unedited to display my opinion on games simply having and needing more difficult tasks for players who want and can try hard to reward them equally for such trying. 

Many games have high end goals only a little amount of the actual player base has access to as to make such a reward special and feel special. Making it availible and accessible for anyone to just get it devalues it and decreases the motivation to go for such. I personally believe games need to have such special tasks for people who are willing to go to such lengths so they can feel rewarded for it. This is just my opinion on it. It's sad that there can be disabilities that limit a player who otherwise would have the mindset and resolve to grind it otherwise. 

 

OK - my bad.

 

I agree that there should be challenges (and rewards) for very good players, or players who put in the time and effort and might be not that good. I do think it is a delicate balance though between that, and making things available to other players. For the same reason I am conflicted about some of the mods out there - they might enable people with visual disabilities to play the game, but IMHO are too much for people without disabilities.

[totally_potato]

25 minutes ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

I watch details of Novorossiysk missions group and I think that some of it is too hard for common player

 

1. Mission 5 of first objectives in one battle got 2500 base XP

2. Mission 5 of second objectives in one battle got 12 citadel hits

3. Mission 5 of third objective in one battle get 220.000 damage to hips

4. Mission 5 of 4 objective in one battle get 5 destroyed ships 

5. Mission 5 of 5 objectives in one battle got 2700 base XP

 

This is too hard and crazy I would like do see all devs are it able to finish all that objectives!

If you want give us ship for free with grinding be realistic and made objectives which is able to pass to most of players! not 5 % 10% of it best of best THIS IS Tier VI SHIP not tier X with superpowers!

 

I hope that you will made patch and redone it or give us something for apologies!

2500 base XP? If you play well, then its not that hard to get

12 citadel hiits? Take you American cruiser or French/German heavy DD out for a spin. You'll a get a fair few cits for sure

220000 dmg? Take a ship that farms a lot of damage? Soviet/French DDs, French/Japanese/German cruisers, British/Japanese BBs

5 destroyed ships? I mean, you can get it if you have good situational awareness and a responsive ship with a ton of reach, or just play a good game in your fav ship.

2700 base XP? If 2500 is possible for you, 2700 shouldn't be that much harder. 

 

If you are expecting a free ship from WG, then keep expecting. If its free, its grindy, if its stuck behind a pay wall, its cut-clear ez to get if you have the will to give cash for it.

Also, stop thinking this as a grind, just play the game as you do, you have an entire month, so you may get it. 

Stop whining about everything

Thank you very much

[Tanaka_15]

8 minutes ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

I will open new topic in which I will ask players to say which is its record in these categories :)

 

Mine is:

Random: in one battle 2611 base XP, 4 ships and about 6 citadels, avenge 784XP, 150.000HP damage

Ranked: in one battle 3840 base XP, 4 ships and about 6 citadels, avenge 1114XP, 114.000HP damage

Ill pay :) in one battel 5 195 xp, 7 ships, 279k dmg. And this is just avg player with a good battle. so well yeach.  About cits unsuere about record but it will be 20 ++ in mino sometime ago. 

[VedranSeaWolf359]

21 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

Okay. That's an exception but so is life I guess? There are many disabilities yet the world can't acconadate for all of them. You can't go mountain climbing in a wheelchair for example. There will always be content in games inaccessible for certain people. If he had this disability for long he should be able to understand and cope with the limitations he sadly has to work with. 

 

Yes while I have limitations in some games while you need to be precise and have fast reactions but in other hands I able to dance and this will be my hobby before corona

[totally_potato]

28 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

@VedranSeaWolf359 has problems with his hands - it is not how good he knows the game and how good he is playing...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

oh ok

Ig sorry to him for the above rant 

27 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

 

 

Vedran, luckily you only have to finish 5 missions of your ability / choosing... the ones that are too hard are thus irrelevant! 

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

yeah

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

12 minutes ago, totally_potato said:

oh ok

Ig sorry to him for the above rant 

yeah

 

Stop ranting about everything 

[VedranSeaWolf359]

I open record topic which is your record in these categories (random & ranked)  - General Discussion - World of Warships official forum

 

 

[VedranSeaWolf359]

You know I think that people with disability is mostly gamers (what ones which can use computers relative good) because it is often a primary way of entertainment especially in these corona times.

[totally_potato]

20 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Stop ranting about everything 

I am a ranter

It's what I do. 

[Cyclops_]

Citadels are easy, take Moskva into co op get to the flank and hay presto, 12 to 19 Citadels in 1 battle easy ( and yes I have a visual disability and arthritic fingers, it's an age thing)

[Dutchy_2019]

4 hours ago, Cyclops_ said:

Citadels are easy, take Moskva into co op get to the flank and hay presto, 12 to 19 Citadels in 1 battle easy ( and yes I have a visual disability and arthritic fingers, it's an age thing)

 

Except for the problem that you cannot complete this particular mission in Co-op. It is a Randoms / Ranked only mission (something that somebody else ranted about in a thread he started).

[KielYourself]

6 hours ago, VedranSeaWolf359 said:

I watch details of Novorossiysk missions group and I think that some of it is too hard for common player

 

1. Mission 5 of first objectives in one battle got 2500 base XP

2. Mission 5 of second objectives in one battle got 12 citadel hits

3. Mission 5 of third objective in one battle get 220.000 damage to hips

4. Mission 5 of 4 objective in one battle get 5 destroyed ships 

5. Mission 5 of 5 objectives in one battle got 2700 base XP

 

This is too hard and crazy I would like do see all devs are it able to finish all that objectives!

If you want give us ship for free with grinding be realistic and made objectives which is able to pass to most of players! not 5 % 10% of it best of best THIS IS Tier VI SHIP not tier X with superpowers!

 

I hope that you will made patch and redone it or give us something for apologies!

You can get the ship just by finishing all other missions which require no skill or brain and just grinding.

If you cant even do that you probably dont even deserve the ship then.

[Dutchy_2019]

8 minutes ago, Miki12345 said:

You can get the ship just by finishing all other missions which require no skill or brain and just grinding.

If you cant even do that you probably dont even deserve the ship then.

 

Did you read the rest of the thread before responding?

[arttuperkunas]

13 minutes ago, Miki12345 said:

You can get the ship just by finishing all other missions which require no skill or brain and just grinding.

If you cant even do that you probably dont even deserve the ship then.

Maybe you picked the wrong thread to be 3dgy in bro. Read up.

[Cyclops_]

2 hours ago, Dutchy_2019 said:

 

Except for the problem that you cannot complete this particular mission in Co-op. It is a Randoms / Ranked only mission (something that somebody else ranted about in a thread he started).

Maybe so, but I completed the 1st phase after about 12 to 14 battles, did all but the Captain XP in Co op using Moskva, a couple in DD and a couple of Ranked in  DD, sorted.