POLL BB tier 9 premium with coal

[Caronte_2021]

Wich is the best BB Tier 9 premium for farming credits on patch 0.10.10 to take with coal and why? Thanks

[Yedwy]

2 minutes ago, Caronte_2021 said:

Wich is the best BB Tier 9 premium for farming credits on patch 0.10.10 to take with coal and why? Thanks

For farming credits? Probably Kearsarge as she has 12x16" guns meaning she ll do damage and damage = creds...

[Ocsimano18]

Kearsage can do a lot of damage, but have a high skill floor.

Marco Polo is still a bit underwhelming, may need some additional buffs.

Pommern is famine or feast. If you can brawl, then you make lot of credits, but she’s underwhelming in games with long  range shooting.

 

If you’re a pro, the Kearsarge makes the most money, but if you’re a beginner then you might be better of with Marco Polo, as she’s a generic battleship. If you’re a brawling addict, then go for Pommern. Also if you’re already grinding a line for one of these nations, then you’re better of choosing that nation for your premium ship, to accelerate captain training, too.

[Caronte_2021]

20 minuti fa, Ocsimano18 ha scritto:

Kearsage can do a lot of damage, but have a high skill floor.

Marco Polo is still a bit underwhelming, may need some additional buffs.

Pommern is famine or feast. If you can brawl, then you make lot of credits, but she’s underwhelming in games with long  range shooting.

 

If you’re a pro, the Kearsarge makes the most money, but if you’re a beginner then you might be better of with Marco Polo, as she’s a generic battleship. If you’re a brawling addict, then go for Pommern. Also if you’re already grinding a line for one of these nations, then you’re better of choosing that nation for your premium ship, to accelerate captain training, too.

My game style is sniper or second line

[Ocsimano18]

8 minutes ago, Caronte_2021 said:

My game style is sniper or second line

Kearsarge=long to mid range (never get close)

Marco Polo= mid range

Pommern= close range (never snipe)

[Itwastuesday]

Kearsarge is overpowered and the other two are kinda meh or bad. 

[Caronte_2021]

so kearsarge for me, thanks

[Procrastes]

1 hour ago, Caronte_2021 said:

so kearsarge for me, thanks

Bear in mind that she can be changed for balance reasons, if WG feels so inclined. But so can any of the others, of course.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

1 hour ago, Caronte_2021 said:

My game style is sniper or second line

Then don't even look at Pommern or Marco "Useless" Polo.

 

1 hour ago, Itwastuesday said:

Kearsarge is overpowered and the other two are kinda meh or bad. 

How is K. overpowered? I ask because - as an opponent - it's never caused me problems.

[MementoMori_6030]

People are botting with Pommern 24/7, so I guess the answer is easy.

[Itwastuesday]

2 minutes ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Then don't even look at Pommern or Marco "Useless" Polo.

 

How is K. overpowered? I ask because - as an opponent - it's never caused me problems.

Most people just potate with it. 

 

[totally_potato]

2 hours ago, Caronte_2021 said:

Wich is the best BB Tier 9 premium for farming credits on patch 0.10.10 to take with coal and why? Thanks

Kearsarge is the most competitive

Pommern is the most fun

Marco Polo is average

[tocqueville8]

2 hours ago, Caronte_2021 said:

Wich is the best BB Tier 9 premium for farming credits on patch 0.10.10 to take with coal and why? Thanks

With Pommern, the risk is going too close too soon.

With Kearsarge, the risk is staying too far too long.

 

The Marco Polo is pretty generic: I'd only get it if I had a highly-skilled Italian captain, and I could use it to farm free cpt xp.

Come to think of it, I do...

 

Honestly, it's hard to advise someone with private stats: I just have no idea what you like or what you're better at...

[totally_potato]

3 hours ago, Itwastuesday said:

Kearsarge is overpowered and the other two are kinda meh or bad. 

ehh

No

Kearsarge requires a fair bit of skill to utilise efficiently. Her guns require getting used to, she is unimaginably squishy (keep your saturation bs with you), and her rocket planes are tiny tims, so they hit hard, but there is no guarantee they will hit something like a rapid maneuvering cruiser, let alone a DD, so quite good against BBs and super cruisers at the right angles and correct lead, otherwise they are next to useless. The big advantage of Kear is spotting potential and a potentially heavy broadside against anything oblivious to it, but that's about it. She is very strong, but her limitations keep her from being OP, and that can't be denied.

[WWDragon]

Yes, also her shells are not Iowa/Montana shells but New Carolina, the turret configuration also leads to you can only take snapshoots with 2 like Iowa even if her broadside is heavier it also have a 36 seconds reload vs the 30 seconds of Iowa/Montana, also no spotter so lower range.

 

What saves the ship from being terrible is that it actually have a thick armored deck so its tankier that expected as well good rear turret angles and oddly enough a stronger secondary battery that Iowa even if those are unlikely to come into play otherwise it would just be a T9 Hizen with planes.

[WalkingDutchman]

I don't have any of these 3 since I'm still playing my Mighty Mo as tier 9 BB but I've played enough battles to know an easy choice when I see one. Go for the Pommern. The other 2 are situational at best, even if you have a bad game in your Pommern, you will still be able to get some fun out of it. And fun is a commodity that's hard to come by in WoWs these days.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

3 hours ago, Itwastuesday said:

Most people just potate with it. 

 

Is it really a tier 9 Montana?! If so... I won't resist it.

[Miscommunication_dept]

Bear thing about kearsarge is spotting a cruiser with your planes, then making it turn broadside to your ship. Then return to ship and blap. Works very well with destroyers too. To avoid rockets they make a turn which is often easy to predict.

 

Pommern is more fun but I’m pretty sure Kearsarge is stronger.

[Verblonde]

13 hours ago, Caronte_2021 said:

Wich is the best BB Tier 9 premium for farming credits on patch 0.10.10 to take with coal and why?

Does mode have a bearing on things?

 

I've voted Pommern, on the grounds that she's easy to make a tidy profit with in Coop too, when you don't fancy facing real people.

 

(Full disclosure: Pommern is the only one I have right now; I'll pick Kearsage up over Xmas, and don't have much interest in Marco Polo.)

[Prophecy82]

What ever you pick, DONT pick Marco Polo!

 

Its a turd a real one. 

 

Does Gwynblyat have an alt account? Who else would vote for Polo?

Might be a troll. 

[tocqueville8]

12 hours ago, WalkingDutchman said:

Go for the Pommern. The other 2 are situational at best, even if you have a bad game in your Pommern, you will still be able to get some fun out of it.

I would've thought that, being a brawler, the Pommern was situational by definition...

 

Meanwhile, the Kearsarge has a massive broadside and the ability to spot targets for the team and for herself, or to finish low-hp enemies on the other end of the map.

In non-CV games, which are common at T9, she can spot the enemy team early on, giving hers a massive information advantage (are they lemming? where are the radar cruisers? which DD is on the near cap...?), and she clearly has a lot of clutch potential in late games, as well.

 

I mean...CVs typically lack the alpha, while BBs lack vision: the Kearsarge has both (with some limitations, naturally), so she's more complete than either: how can that be "situational"? 

[SodaBubbles]

14 hours ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Then don't even look at Pommern or Marco "Useless" Polo.

 

How is K. overpowered? I ask because - as an opponent - it's never caused me problems.

Kearsage is not OP. Its guns are not very good, and it eats pens. I routinely am over 100K in my T9-10 BBs but never in my few games in Kearsage, all in Arms Race where damage is easy. I like seeing them on Red, an underperforming BB that has a massive damage pool, another FdG. Just food.

 

Pommern has these problems, but it is less clunky than Kearsage, has faster reload, has great secondaries and is a lot more fun to play. The only problem with Pommern is people stupidly charge in expecting to torp, and get quickly killed. I hate seeing Poms on my team for that reason.

[WalkingDutchman]

1 hour ago, tocqueville8 said:

I would've thought that, being a brawler, the Pommern was situational by definition...

 

Meanwhile, the Kearsarge has a massive broadside and the ability to spot targets for the team and for herself, or to finish low-hp enemies on the other end of the map.

In non-CV games, which are common at T9, she can spot the enemy team early on, giving hers a massive information advantage (are they lemming? where are the radar cruisers? which DD is on the near cap...?), and she clearly has a lot of clutch potential in late games, as well.

 

I mean...CVs typically lack the alpha, while BBs lack vision: the Kearsarge has both (with some limitations, naturally), so she's more complete than either: how can that be "situational"? 

Kearsarge definitely has some things going for her. The ability to spot and get more information for yourself is by far the biggest. In a Kearsarge however it's not that easy to act on that information in a timely manner. Like the previous poster said it's kinda clunky. A pommern you can basically plop down anywhere and you can ask it to do anything, it'll manage. Play your BB like a DD? Pommern. Play your BB like a cruiser? Pommern. Play your BB like a BB? Kearsarge probably. Problem is that most matches aren't so clear cut and to do well you end up taking up different roles throughout the battle. The pommern is versatile enough for this, the Kearsarge isn't.

[lafeel]

Have to give the nod to the Pomm here. She has, at least in my opinion, fewer issues than the other two.

[Ocsimano18]

5 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

Meanwhile, the Kearsarge has a massive broadside and the ability to spot targets for the team and for herself, or to finish low-hp enemies on the other end of the map.

In non-CV games, which are common at T9, she can spot the enemy team early on, giving hers a massive information advantage (are they lemming? where are the radar cruisers? which DD is on the near cap...?), and she clearly has a lot of clutch potential in late games, as well.

 

I mean...CVs typically lack the alpha, while BBs lack vision: the Kearsarge has both (with some limitations, naturally), so she's more complete than either: how can that be "situational"? 

This is what you think about Kearsarge, before having her, but in reality this looks different. You only get your first planes after two minutes, unlike CVs, who get them immediately. Also, by cruising the entire map with your planes, you loose a lot of valuable time while you could have blapped a yolo cruiser, damaged the red DD, or did something more useful. The planes are fine, but not because of strategic spotting, because of the time loss, and because of your average teammates do not benefit from this information, they continue on their set course. Maybe in ramked silver, early on, or ranked gold you have appropriate teammates, or if you play in division. I mean, you can use the spotting for yourself, it’s not bad, but it’s not as an OP as having a radar.

 

5 hours ago, SodaBubbles said:

Kearsage is not OP. Its guns are not very good, and it eats pens. I routinely am over 100K in my T9-10 BBs but never in my few games in Kearsage, all in Arms Race where damage is easy. I like seeing them on Red, an underperforming BB that has a massive damage pool, another FdG. Just food.

I consistently go over 100k with Kearsarge, damagewise she’s on par with the best BBs. I’m impaired in my influence on winning, because I can’t get close when needed. She is for someone who has above average skills/experience, but cares more about damage than about winning the game. I have similar feelings when playing the Yoshino, I can play well, rack up nice damage, but the final outcome of the battle is 50-50%, independently of what I do.