Removal of service flags and some camos

[Dai9Gut]

Hello

 

Pasting just what we can read from the patch notes, related to economics:

Expendable camouflages "For Meritorious Service," Rising, and Blue Lagoon, as well as economic signal India Bravo Terrathree, can no longer be obtained.

 

This looks like theyre on the same way than World of Tanks: making playing the game at high tiers expensive so youre forced to either buy a ship for +40 euros or spend on premium time.

I dont think Im the only one here who plays this game for the ease of grinding thanks to the abundance of camos and signals, plus coal/steel ships and often free premium time that makes getting your ship collection easier and steadier, but with the increase on monetization and the paywall behind every event, from trying new ships to containers is getting on my nerves. I dont have much money but I was pondering on spending some after seeing that Spanish ship... Guess Im changing my mind because I dont want to participate in the eternal greed of Wargaming that only cares about milking his fat cows to the last penny...  I dont like making this kind of posts but I want to vent out, and call people to avoid spending a single dime on this greed company (which is also being investigated for money laundering, how funny).

The worst part is I dont have many more alternatives, I dont care about ships, Im more of a tank guy but WoT and WT are the same garbage. We need to stop spending money and make them lose, somehow, and convince the whales to keep on spending their idiotic money.

[Maddog30]

Like yourself I don't like where the game is going really

 

Not spent a dime on this game in 2 years and that's not going to change any time soon.

 

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

For Meritorious Service will be replaced by something called For Valiant Service (IIRC) with different bonuses. No idea how they are different, though.

 

I don't like where this game's been headed for a while, and if they intend to follow the course set by WoT... I'm seriously going to have to think about binning the whole thing...

[AkerJack]

They want us simply to get more premium time and spend dubs for permacamos...somehow they gotta make money, it might be  an unpopular choise and direction but it is way fairer action that the containers scam they did. 

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

9 minutes ago, AkerJack said:

They want us simply to get more premium time and spend dubs for permacamos...somehow they gotta make money, it might be  an unpopular choise and direction but it is way fairer action that the containers scam they did. 

 

I'm not even playing while having over 100 days of premium left, that's how bad this game has become lol.

[Cpt_Andre]

50 minutes ago, Dai9Gut said:

Hello

 

Pasting just what we can read from the patch notes, related to economics:

Expendable camouflages "For Meritorious Service," Rising, and Blue Lagoon, as well as economic signal India Bravo Terrathree, can no longer be obtained.

 

This looks like theyre on the same way than World of Tanks: making playing the game at high tiers expensive so youre forced to either buy a ship for +40 euros or spend on premium time.

I dont think Im the only one here who plays this game for the ease of grinding thanks to the abundance of camos and signals, plus coal/steel ships and often free premium time that makes getting your ship collection easier and steadier, but with the increase on monetization and the paywall behind every event, from trying new ships to containers is getting on my nerves. I dont have much money but I was pondering on spending some after seeing that Spanish ship... Guess Im changing my mind because I dont want to participate in the eternal greed of Wargaming that only cares about milking his fat cows to the last penny...  I dont like making this kind of posts but I want to vent out, and call people to avoid spending a single dime on this greed company (which is also being investigated for money laundering, how funny).

The worst part is I dont have many more alternatives, I dont care about ships, Im more of a tank guy but WoT and WT are the same garbage. We need to stop spending money and make them lose, somehow, and convince the whales to keep on spending their idiotic money.

Since years the community asked for harsher high tier economy.

Now they make the some tiny steps towards and its bad... *mind blow*

[Wulf_Ace]

but they DID remove premium and regular consumables, so there was an plus for us in terms of spending. Even though i dont agree on expenses I do look at my camos in port and i have them so much that i dont have to even buy regular camo for ship.

And people are really sitting on tons of credits around and nothing to spend on.

 

I dont like that i have to buy only 20 detonation flags for more then a million of credits,that is definitly too much. Detonation flag should be lower price or remove detonation from the game.

 

So even if i dont agree i understand why.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

13 minutes ago, Cpt_Andre said:

Since years the community asked for harsher high tier economy.

Now they make the some tiny steps towards and its bad... *mind blow*

 

7 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

but they DID remove premium and regular consumables, so there was an plus for us in terms of spending. Even though i dont agree on expenses I do look at my camos in port and i have them so much that i dont have to even buy regular camo for ship.

And people are really sitting on tons of credits around and nothing to spend on.

 

I dont like that i have to buy only 20 detonation flags for more then a million of credits,that is definitly too much. Detonation flag should be lower price or remove detonation from the game.

 

So even if i dont agree i understand why.

 

There's two ways that can go.

 

1) Only the creme-de-la-creme of players is going to be able to consistently play at high tiers; or...

 

2) Only the creme-de-la-creme of players is going to be able to consistently play at high tiers.... as well as the 'potato fleet' willing to throw money at WG(mz) for the privilege of being considered top of the crop.

[Wulf_Ace]

6 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

 

There's two ways that can go.

 

1) Only the creme-de-la-creme of players is going to be able to consistently play at high tiers; or...

 

2) Only the creme-de-la-creme of players is going to be able to consistently play at high tiers.... as well as the 'potato fleet' willing to throw money at WG(mz) for the privilege of being considered top of the crop.

beacouse the normal camo is now

22 500 credits?? 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

3 minutes ago, Wulf_Ace said:

beacouse the normal camo is now

22 500 credits?? 

 

It we are talking about only that, it won't make a huge impact for most people. Then again... if these changes will not make a huge impact per battle, what will they do. Reduce credit accumulation over time, which for the most part is going to hit people who spend a lot on equipment or do something else, like resetting lines for RB research points which likely is the biggest credit sink we have.

[RigorMortis76]

1 hour ago, Dai9Gut said:

Hello

 

Pasting just what we can read from the patch notes, related to economics:

Expendable camouflages "For Meritorious Service," Rising, and Blue Lagoon, as well as economic signal India Bravo Terrathree, can no longer be obtained.

 

This looks like theyre on the same way than World of Tanks: making playing the game at high tiers expensive so youre forced to either buy a ship for +40 euros or spend on premium time.

I dont think Im the only one here who plays this game for the ease of grinding thanks to the abundance of camos and signals, plus coal/steel ships and often free premium time that makes getting your ship collection easier and steadier, but with the increase on monetization and the paywall behind every event, from trying new ships to containers is getting on my nerves. I dont have much money but I was pondering on spending some after seeing that Spanish ship... Guess Im changing my mind because I dont want to participate in the eternal greed of Wargaming that only cares about milking his fat cows to the last penny...  I dont like making this kind of posts but I want to vent out, and call people to avoid spending a single dime on this greed company (which is also being investigated for money laundering, how funny).

The worst part is I dont have many more alternatives, I dont care about ships, Im more of a tank guy but WoT and WT are the same garbage. We need to stop spending money and make them lose, somehow, and convince the whales to keep on spending their idiotic money.

So how exactly do you think this game is made? How do you think their staff is paid? With candy and empty promisses.

I understand that you being from a poor developing country like Spain means money is tight but no one forces you to play high tier. 

Cheers.

 

[principat121]

In a previous recent Dev-Blog Wargaming announced that they want to overhaul the maintenances cost in the game.

 

All the mentioned signals reduce the battle cost.

 

So wargaming will remove them temporaly and replace them with something they concider "more appropiate" in the future.

[albin322]

i think the cammo is being changed cause of the 50 procent maintanance thing. you could slap that on the new super ships and it would defeat the whole purpouse of them draining credits (witch wg said they want)

[Bellegar]

1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

I don't like where this game's been headed for a while, and if they intend to follow the course set by WoT... I'm seriously going to have to think about binning the whole thing...

Just don't stop visiting the forums, we're still fun even though the game isn't! 

 

 

Spoiler

and even though Skybuck is still being banned 

 

[hellhound666]

stop whining ffs -  we got new tokens - supership tokens - and brand new bundles to spend them...

[Karasu_Browarszky]

34 minutes ago, albin322 said:

i think the cammo is being changed cause of the 50 procent maintanance thing. you could slap that on the new super ships and it would defeat the whole purpouse of them draining credits (witch wg said they want)

 

Gotta love it how creative they are when it comes to new content (they want).

[FooFaFie]

So far that I know in the first years of the game in the higher tiers you lost credits. You had to play the lower tiers for credits to use in the higher tiers.

 

But but WG ended that and the game has now a waterhead of exclusive tier 10 players

[Dai9Gut]

2 horas antes, RigorMortis76 dijo:

So how exactly do you think this game is made? How do you think their staff is paid? With candy and empty promisses.

I understand that you being from a poor developing country like Spain means money is tight but no one forces you to play high tier. 

Cheers.

 

Why do I bother grinding a line, to never use the TX? specially as a competitive player who loves clan content, main reason for me to play this game its for it. And rankeds. I agree on paying from time to time according to each other own money, but spending my little money on a greedy game that never has enough... for me its worthless.

[Dai9Gut]

1 hora antes, hellhound666 dijo:

stop whining ffs -  we got new tokens - supership tokens - and brand new bundles to spend them...

Most of that is earnt by spending money, you dont get to unlock everything with tokens unless you hit your credit card. Wargaming is a company of money launderers and greedy pigs.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

2 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

 

There's two ways that can go.

 

1) Only the creme-de-la-creme of players is going to be able to consistently play at high tiers; or...

 

2) Only the creme-de-la-creme of players is going to be able to consistently play at high tiers.... as well as the 'potato fleet' willing to throw money at WG(mz) for the privilege of being considered top of the crop.

It is going to be #2 and the potato fleet is always going to be green, never red. You can be sure of that.

[Dai9Gut]

2 horas antes, Karasu_Hidesuke dijo:

 

It we are talking about only that, it won't make a huge impact for most people. Then again... if these changes will not make a huge impact per battle, what will they do. Reduce credit accumulation over time, which for the most part is going to hit people who spend a lot on equipment or do something else, like resetting lines for RB research points which likely is the biggest credit sink we have.

Im affected, because Im always grinding a line for the sole purpose of using it on CB and rankeds. One BB lane can cost you a total of 40 million, sum the equipment and thats even more. Luckily I have a Thunderer, but its still dull to play 1 ship to afford the others, let alone bringing them on battle.

[Dai9Gut]

1 hora antes, FieFaFoo dijo:

So far that I know in the first years of the game in the higher tiers you lost credits. You had to play the lower tiers for credits to use in the higher tiers.

 

But but WG ended that and the game has now a waterhead of exclusive tier 10 players

As it should be, as I said before: whats the point of grind a line if you dont play the final ship? why did you work for it for? to let it rust in the port?

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

2 hours ago, RigorMortis76 said:

So how exactly do you think this game is made? How do you think their staff is paid? With candy and empty promisses.

I understand that you being from a poor developing country like Spain means money is tight but no one forces you to play high tier. 

Cheers.

 

On the off chance that you are being serious... No. Of course the game is not made with candy. But while WG could charge for purchase and per month, they choose not to. Instead they choose to be an online casino - an unregulated one at that. Hence my suggestion (by which I have thus far lived): not one cent to WG.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

14 minutes ago, Dai9Gut said:

Im affected, because Im always grinding a line for the sole purpose of using it on CB and rankeds. One BB lane can cost you a total of 40 million, sum the equipment and thats even more. Luckily I have a Thunderer, but its still dull to play 1 ship to afford the others, let alone bringing them on battle.

 

If you sell silver ships while you grind, which is something you may need to do due to lack of credits or port slots, you stand to lose more than a small fortune over time. I'm sure you already figured that out, but I sometimes like to play Captain Obvious.

 

The only counter strategy to that might be to grab all those free port slots that are available through daily missions, and trying not to sell any of the high tier silver ships, at least if you intend to play them later on.

[Dai9Gut]

1 hora antes, Karasu_Hidesuke dijo:

 

If you sell silver ships while you grind, which is something you may need to do due to lack of credits or port slots, you stand to lose more than a small fortune over time. I'm sure you already figured that out, but I sometimes like to play Captain Obvious.

 

The only counter strategy to that might be to grab all those free port slots that are available through daily missions, and trying not to sell any of the high tier silver ships, at least if you intend to play them later on.

I do not intent to play later on, Im headed towards T10. Only reason for me to keep a lower tier ship is to use it on rankeds or CBs, and at the moment it is not the case. Also selling them helps me a little bit with the grind.