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We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid and when ever you see a Soviet navy story/vid the sun shines out their arse.  
 

Considering and comparing the Soviet navy and RN’s role for centuries and to this day it’s abundantly clear even to the stupidest WG developer which navy was / is a joke.

 

As with game content there is a lot more “true and historically accurate” videos that could be provided, which could enlighten us and even WG themselves, for starters it wasn’t until I revisited The Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton (having played WOWS), that I realised just how much the RN did in the Pacific, sure compared to the US it was Tiny, but hundreds of ships, planes, thousands of men and WG could expand further on things like the weather (given their lust for cyclones), carrier design (RN), Kamikaze and armoured decks, AA screens (Laffey).

 

Yes I am biased about the RN (I watched the cruel sea again yesterday), it’s not a Hollywood fantasy flick or a Russian BS propaganda movie but can we PLEASE have more TRUE and informative videos.

 

”What typhoon !”,   Sussex’s kami camo, Laffey, Kami bouncers, last plane to be shot  down by naval fighter,   The British Pacific Fleet alone did more than the Entire Soviet Fleet has done in history,  video please WG !!

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On the topic of the British Pacific Fleet I would recommend the following book by D Brown, it’s very informative and not too heavy going. 

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Comrade Russian Navy best in the world so you go straight to gulag, do not pass Guzz or Pompey and do not collect your Queens Shilling :Smile_izmena:

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37 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

The British Pacific Fleet alone did more than the Entire Soviet Fleet has done in history,  video please WG !!

If I was going to pick a part of the Royal Navy to brag about it probably wouldn't be the British Pacific Fleet, tbh, and it's really only the in-game Soviet BBs (and perhaps the Petro) which fall under the heading of Stalinist pipe-dreams. Many of the Soviet/Russian DDs and Cruisers in game, especially those of the Black Sea fleet, had arduous and distinguished careers in both World Wars.

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besides all the brave seamen sacrificing in 2 world wars on battleboats, the one and only fleets that foremost deserves spotlight imho, are the merchants/supply fleets :etc_red_button:

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1 hour ago, MadBadDave said:

We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid

Where did that happen?

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15 minutes ago, MrWastee said:

besides all the brave seamen sacrificing in 2 world wars on battleboats, the one and only fleets that foremost deserves spotlight imho, are the merchants/supply fleets :etc_red_button:

 

Oh... Murmansk Convoy mode.. I can picture it. Would be interesting to see if WG(mz) could make something good along those lines. That is... if they actually gave a rat's **** about things.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Where did that happen?


Im guessing he is probably referring too the recent Head over Keels video where a British submarine was captured by a German Floatplane, also possibly the video of the two British destroyers who rammed into each other and the crews tried to abandon ship into each other’s ships.

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1 hour ago, lovelacebeer said:


Im guessing he is probably referring too the recent Head over Keels video where a British submarine was captured by a German Floatplane, also possibly the video of the two British destroyers who rammed into each other and the crews tried to abandon ship into each other’s ships.

I haven't watched the video yet but if that really happened IRL then that's hilarious. 

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I sense big pain of certain part of OP's body. Take it easy, breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out :Smile_veryhappy:

 

oMg hOw tHeY DaRe tO PrEsEnT TwO UnFoRtUnAtE AcCiDeNtS FrOm hIsToRy oF My bElOvEd nAvY OmG OmG <sounds of village idiot from first post>  oMg hOw dArE ThEy tO EvEn mEnTiOn rUsSiAn nAvY iN tHeIr GaMe <even more sounds of village idiot from first post> rUsSiAn bIaS AbUsEd mE In aLl hOlEs #MeToo omg omg oneoneone!!!!!1111

 

Meritum of OP post.

 

1 hour ago, invicta2012 said:

Many of the Soviet/Russian DDs and Cruisers in game, especially those of the Black Sea fleet, had arduous and distinguished careers in both World Wars.

Shhh. OP as I remember correctly has definitive strong mental problem with Russian navy or country per se. You try to argue with wall :Smile_trollface:

 

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2 hours ago, MadBadDave said:

We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid and when ever you see a Soviet navy story/vid the sun shines out their arse.  

 

Yes, the sun is indeed shining out of their arses in this one. 

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2 hours ago, Communist_Loli said:

I haven't watched the video yet but if that really happened IRL then that's hilarious. 


When it comes to military history there is no shortage of crazy stories that sound like something out of a comedy show. 
 

For example I leave you with the score from Operation Wikinger not a bad British victory considering the British were not there:

 

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3 hours ago, MadBadDave said:

We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid and when ever you see a Soviet navy story/vid the sun shines out their arse.  
 

Considering and comparing the Soviet navy and RN’s role for centuries and to this day it’s abundantly clear even to the stupidest WG developer which navy was / is a joke.

 

As with game content there is a lot more “true and historically accurate” videos that could be provided, which could enlighten us and even WG themselves, for starters it wasn’t until I revisited The Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton (having played WOWS), that I realised just how much the RN did in the Pacific, sure compared to the US it was Tiny, but hundreds of ships, planes, thousands of men and WG could expand further on things like the weather (given their lust for cyclones), carrier design (RN), Kamikaze and armoured decks, AA screens (Laffey).

 

Yes I am biased about the RN (I watched the cruel sea again yesterday), it’s not a Hollywood fantasy flick or a Russian BS propaganda movie but can we PLEASE have more TRUE and informative videos.

 

”What typhoon !”,   Sussex’s kami camo, Laffey, Kami bouncers, last plane to be shot  down by naval fighter,   The British Pacific Fleet alone did more than the Entire Soviet Fleet has done in history,  video please WG !!

You are clearly lacking an overall perspective on the matter as you seem to be heavily biased towards the RN. 
 

To put it into perspective: there has been only one single major and large scale naval battle between the Russian and the British fleet (Doggerbank prior to WW1) - and the results speak for themselves. The Russians swept the British away as they were newbies - so you better rethink your bias. Maybe WG is right after all? :Smile_trollface:

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2 hours ago, lovelacebeer said:


Im guessing he is probably referring too the recent Head over Keels video where a British submarine was captured by a German Floatplane, also possibly the video of the two British destroyers who rammed into each other and the crews tried to abandon ship into each other’s ships.

And is that made up?

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1 hour ago, Communist_Loli said:

I haven't watched the video yet but if that really happened IRL then that's hilarious. 

Oh gosh yes. HMS Sparrowhawk and HMS Broke. You can't blame them, really - in the middle of an absolute melee of a night action in the Battle of Jutland with large chunks of the Broke having been blown apart by shellfire.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sparrowhawk_(1912)

 

The Broke seems to be have been a latter day torpedo ram. She ended up in another notable naval engagement - the Battle of the Dover Strait - in which she rammed  and sank the German Destroyer G42.

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3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

And is that made up?


I never said it was made up. I simply provided the likely source of his ire, I have no opinion as to any bias. 

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1 hour ago, lovelacebeer said:

For example I leave you with the score from Operation Wikinger not a bad British victory considering the British were not there:

That's even funnier when you consider the ships involved - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wikinger. You can see why certain ships got thought of as Jonahs - The Eckholdt seemed to be one of those. 

 

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15 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said:


I never said it was made up. I simply provided the likely source of his ire, I have no opinion as to any bias. 

And I did not claim you did. I just asked a question...

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24 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Oh gosh yes. HMS Sparrowhawk and HMS Broke. You can't blame them, really - in the middle of an absolute melee of a night action in the Battle of Jutland with large chunks of the Broke having been blown apart by shellfire.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sparrowhawk_(1912)

 

The Broke seems to be have been a latter day torpedo ram. She ended up in another notable naval engagement - the Battle of the Dover Strait - in which she rammed  and sank the German Destroyer G42.

 

Oh, wait.. it gets even better.

 

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At this point a third destroyer, HMS Contest steamed into Sparrowhawk, striking 6 feet (1.8 m) from her stern.

 

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2 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

You are clearly lacking an overall perspective on the matter as you seem to be heavily biased towards the RN. 
 

To put it into perspective: there has been only one single major and large scale naval battle between the Russian and the British fleet (Doggerbank prior to WW1) - and the results speak for themselves. The Russians swept the British away as they were newbies - so you better rethink your bias. Maybe WG is right after all? :Smile_trollface:

Oh my word I had to look up the 'Doggerbank incident.' How illustrious of the Russian fleet to mistake British fishing trawlers for Japanese torpedo boats, in the North Sea:Smile_veryhappy:

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4 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Oh... Murmansk Convoy mode.. I can picture it. Would be interesting to see if WG(mz) could make something good along those lines. That is... if they actually gave a rat's **** about things.

 

 

You would think that it would not be that hard for them, but I guess they work in mysterious ways especially as in WoT's, the map Stalingrad has not been seen in years, you would think that all things history related to that city would be forever tied in with the game, seems not to be the case.

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4 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said:

You would think that it would not be that hard for them, but I guess they work in mysterious ways especially as in WoT's, the map Stalingrad has not been seen in years, you would think that all things history related to that city would be forever tied in with the game, seems not to be the case.

 

Stalingrad was a good map, but for some reason the community hated it. I assume it's the same community that likes the wheelies...

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I just cringe every time Wargambling release anything British, It's usually got the citadel nailed to the mast or some other :etc_swear: Up, they seem to have a Bee in their Bonnet about Nerfing the tech tree Light Cruisers atm but hay, this is from a country that couldn't be Ar*ed to put grease on the turret rings of a borrowed Battleship, and solved cold weather heating problems on their state of the art carrier by setting it on fire

As for the Pre WW1 Russian Victory :Smile_veryhappy:

 

 

 

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Imo the only british ship that truely "fought" in asia/pacific during ww2 would be repulse and prince of wales. 

 

This british pacific fleet seem more like an afterthought close to the end of ww2 tbh. Naval wise in asia/pacific during ww2 seems more like a USN v IJN thing.

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