[S-O-M] MadBadDave Players 1,355 posts Report post #1 Posted November 7, 2021 We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid and when ever you see a Soviet navy story/vid the sun shines out their arse. Considering and comparing the Soviet navy and RN’s role for centuries and to this day it’s abundantly clear even to the stupidest WG developer which navy was / is a joke. As with game content there is a lot more “true and historically accurate” videos that could be provided, which could enlighten us and even WG themselves, for starters it wasn’t until I revisited The Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton (having played WOWS), that I realised just how much the RN did in the Pacific, sure compared to the US it was Tiny, but hundreds of ships, planes, thousands of men and WG could expand further on things like the weather (given their lust for cyclones), carrier design (RN), Kamikaze and armoured decks, AA screens (Laffey). Yes I am biased about the RN (I watched the cruel sea again yesterday), it’s not a Hollywood fantasy flick or a Russian BS propaganda movie but can we PLEASE have more TRUE and informative videos. ”What typhoon !”, Sussex’s kami camo, Laffey, Kami bouncers, last plane to be shot down by naval fighter, The British Pacific Fleet alone did more than the Entire Soviet Fleet has done in history, video please WG !! 16 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #2 Posted November 7, 2021 On the topic of the British Pacific Fleet I would recommend the following book by D Brown, it’s very informative and not too heavy going. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #3 Posted November 7, 2021 Comrade Russian Navy best in the world so you go straight to gulag, do not pass Guzz or Pompey and do not collect your Queens Shilling 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #4 Posted November 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, MadBadDave said: The British Pacific Fleet alone did more than the Entire Soviet Fleet has done in history, video please WG !! If I was going to pick a part of the Royal Navy to brag about it probably wouldn't be the British Pacific Fleet, tbh, and it's really only the in-game Soviet BBs (and perhaps the Petro) which fall under the heading of Stalinist pipe-dreams. Many of the Soviet/Russian DDs and Cruisers in game, especially those of the Black Sea fleet, had arduous and distinguished careers in both World Wars. 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 4,255 posts 33,584 battles Report post #5 Posted November 7, 2021 besides all the brave seamen sacrificing in 2 world wars on battleboats, the one and only fleets that foremost deserves spotlight imho, are the merchants/supply fleets 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #6 Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, MadBadDave said: We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid Where did that happen? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #7 Posted November 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, MrWastee said: besides all the brave seamen sacrificing in 2 world wars on battleboats, the one and only fleets that foremost deserves spotlight imho, are the merchants/supply fleets Oh... Murmansk Convoy mode.. I can picture it. Would be interesting to see if WG(mz) could make something good along those lines. That is... if they actually gave a rat's **** about things. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #8 Posted November 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Where did that happen? Im guessing he is probably referring too the recent Head over Keels video where a British submarine was captured by a German Floatplane, also possibly the video of the two British destroyers who rammed into each other and the crews tried to abandon ship into each other’s ships. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GTPF] Communist_Loli Players 438 posts 8,076 battles Report post #9 Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, lovelacebeer said: Im guessing he is probably referring too the recent Head over Keels video where a British submarine was captured by a German Floatplane, also possibly the video of the two British destroyers who rammed into each other and the crews tried to abandon ship into each other’s ships. I haven't watched the video yet but if that really happened IRL then that's hilarious. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[O-R-P] Marblehead_1 Players 3,166 posts 36,674 battles Report post #10 Posted November 7, 2021 I sense big pain of certain part of OP's body. Take it easy, breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out oMg hOw tHeY DaRe tO PrEsEnT TwO UnFoRtUnAtE AcCiDeNtS FrOm hIsToRy oF My bElOvEd nAvY OmG OmG <sounds of village idiot from first post> oMg hOw dArE ThEy tO EvEn mEnTiOn rUsSiAn nAvY iN tHeIr GaMe <even more sounds of village idiot from first post> rUsSiAn bIaS AbUsEd mE In aLl hOlEs #MeToo omg omg oneoneone!!!!!1111 Meritum of OP post. 1 hour ago, invicta2012 said: Many of the Soviet/Russian DDs and Cruisers in game, especially those of the Black Sea fleet, had arduous and distinguished careers in both World Wars. Shhh. OP as I remember correctly has definitive strong mental problem with Russian navy or country per se. You try to argue with wall 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GTPF] Communist_Loli Players 438 posts 8,076 battles Report post #11 Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, MadBadDave said: We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid and when ever you see a Soviet navy story/vid the sun shines out their arse. Yes, the sun is indeed shining out of their arses in this one. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #12 Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Communist_Loli said: I haven't watched the video yet but if that really happened IRL then that's hilarious. When it comes to military history there is no shortage of crazy stories that sound like something out of a comedy show. For example I leave you with the score from Operation Wikinger not a bad British victory considering the British were not there: 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #13 Posted November 7, 2021 3 hours ago, MadBadDave said: We see a lot of what I would call propaganda vids from WG, a lot make the RN look stupid and when ever you see a Soviet navy story/vid the sun shines out their arse. Considering and comparing the Soviet navy and RN’s role for centuries and to this day it’s abundantly clear even to the stupidest WG developer which navy was / is a joke. As with game content there is a lot more “true and historically accurate” videos that could be provided, which could enlighten us and even WG themselves, for starters it wasn’t until I revisited The Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton (having played WOWS), that I realised just how much the RN did in the Pacific, sure compared to the US it was Tiny, but hundreds of ships, planes, thousands of men and WG could expand further on things like the weather (given their lust for cyclones), carrier design (RN), Kamikaze and armoured decks, AA screens (Laffey). Yes I am biased about the RN (I watched the cruel sea again yesterday), it’s not a Hollywood fantasy flick or a Russian BS propaganda movie but can we PLEASE have more TRUE and informative videos. ”What typhoon !”, Sussex’s kami camo, Laffey, Kami bouncers, last plane to be shot down by naval fighter, The British Pacific Fleet alone did more than the Entire Soviet Fleet has done in history, video please WG !! You are clearly lacking an overall perspective on the matter as you seem to be heavily biased towards the RN. To put it into perspective: there has been only one single major and large scale naval battle between the Russian and the British fleet (Doggerbank prior to WW1) - and the results speak for themselves. The Russians swept the British away as they were newbies - so you better rethink your bias. Maybe WG is right after all? 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14 Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, lovelacebeer said: Im guessing he is probably referring too the recent Head over Keels video where a British submarine was captured by a German Floatplane, also possibly the video of the two British destroyers who rammed into each other and the crews tried to abandon ship into each other’s ships. And is that made up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #15 Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Communist_Loli said: I haven't watched the video yet but if that really happened IRL then that's hilarious. Oh gosh yes. HMS Sparrowhawk and HMS Broke. You can't blame them, really - in the middle of an absolute melee of a night action in the Battle of Jutland with large chunks of the Broke having been blown apart by shellfire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sparrowhawk_(1912) The Broke seems to be have been a latter day torpedo ram. She ended up in another notable naval engagement - the Battle of the Dover Strait - in which she rammed and sank the German Destroyer G42. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #16 Posted November 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: And is that made up? I never said it was made up. I simply provided the likely source of his ire, I have no opinion as to any bias. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #17 Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, lovelacebeer said: For example I leave you with the score from Operation Wikinger not a bad British victory considering the British were not there: That's even funnier when you consider the ships involved - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wikinger. You can see why certain ships got thought of as Jonahs - The Eckholdt seemed to be one of those. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #18 Posted November 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, lovelacebeer said: I never said it was made up. I simply provided the likely source of his ire, I have no opinion as to any bias. And I did not claim you did. I just asked a question... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted November 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Oh gosh yes. HMS Sparrowhawk and HMS Broke. You can't blame them, really - in the middle of an absolute melee of a night action in the Battle of Jutland with large chunks of the Broke having been blown apart by shellfire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sparrowhawk_(1912) The Broke seems to be have been a latter day torpedo ram. She ended up in another notable naval engagement - the Battle of the Dover Strait - in which she rammed and sank the German Destroyer G42. Oh, wait.. it gets even better. Quote At this point a third destroyer, HMS Contest steamed into Sparrowhawk, striking 6 feet (1.8 m) from her stern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,223 battles Report post #20 Posted November 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: And I did not claim you did. I just asked a question... And I answered it 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #21 Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said: You are clearly lacking an overall perspective on the matter as you seem to be heavily biased towards the RN. To put it into perspective: there has been only one single major and large scale naval battle between the Russian and the British fleet (Doggerbank prior to WW1) - and the results speak for themselves. The Russians swept the British away as they were newbies - so you better rethink your bias. Maybe WG is right after all? Oh my word I had to look up the 'Doggerbank incident.' How illustrious of the Russian fleet to mistake British fishing trawlers for Japanese torpedo boats, in the North Sea 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #22 Posted November 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Oh... Murmansk Convoy mode.. I can picture it. Would be interesting to see if WG(mz) could make something good along those lines. That is... if they actually gave a rat's **** about things. You would think that it would not be that hard for them, but I guess they work in mysterious ways especially as in WoT's, the map Stalingrad has not been seen in years, you would think that all things history related to that city would be forever tied in with the game, seems not to be the case. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #23 Posted November 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said: You would think that it would not be that hard for them, but I guess they work in mysterious ways especially as in WoT's, the map Stalingrad has not been seen in years, you would think that all things history related to that city would be forever tied in with the game, seems not to be the case. Stalingrad was a good map, but for some reason the community hated it. I assume it's the same community that likes the wheelies... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-RNR-] Maris_Piper Players 2,012 posts Report post #24 Posted November 7, 2021 I just cringe every time Wargambling release anything British, It's usually got the citadel nailed to the mast or some other Up, they seem to have a Bee in their Bonnet about Nerfing the tech tree Light Cruisers atm but hay, this is from a country that couldn't be Ar*ed to put grease on the turret rings of a borrowed Battleship, and solved cold weather heating problems on their state of the art carrier by setting it on fire As for the Pre WW1 Russian Victory 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #25 Posted November 7, 2021 Imo the only british ship that truely "fought" in asia/pacific during ww2 would be repulse and prince of wales. This british pacific fleet seem more like an afterthought close to the end of ww2 tbh. Naval wise in asia/pacific during ww2 seems more like a USN v IJN thing. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites