[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #1 Posted November 2, 2021 So, with 10K players on (& dropping) I random up a T3 ship. So, what is in the queue? 8 CVs and some BBs & Cruisers but, surprisingly no DDs (both the BBs & Cruisers had less than 8, btw). Hence, I cancelled out. Who wants to play with that many vulture T4 CVs looking to feast on your flesh? So, what is this? The death of low tier play? Low tier play on Life Support? Or worse - the death of WoWS? 7 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAYTO] ThePopesHolyFinger Players 1,101 posts 15,033 battles Report post #2 Posted November 2, 2021 It's just no skill/no idea noobs thinking they'll pwn everyone by flying planes in a boat game. When they realise (and I pray some of them do) they suck at CVs, they'll try subs. And we all know they'll suck even more, but they'll bring so much cash knowledge and skill to the game that weegee will find a way to reward ineptitude 10 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #3 Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: So, what is this? The death of low tier play? Low tier play on Life Support? Just what people talk about for two years... Thank you for finally noticing. 3 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #4 Posted November 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: So, with 10K players on (& dropping) I random up a T3 ship. So, what is in the queue? 8 CVs and some BBs & Cruisers but, surprisingly no DDs (both the BBs & Cruisers had less than 8, btw). Hence, I cancelled out. Who wants to play with that many vulture T4 CVs looking to feast on your flesh? So, what is this? The death of low tier play? Low tier play on Life Support? Or worse - the death of WoWS? That would be the griefers, you know the same lot subs are made for as they are incapable od performing even against the token aa that exists on the higher tiers, they simply “cannot play” if there is any opposition to overcome, problem is there is so many of them nowadays WG devs are catering to their needs… 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] Wulf_Ace Players 2,179 posts 12,302 battles Report post #5 Posted November 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: So, with 10K players on (& dropping) I random up a T3 ship. So, what is in the queue? 8 CVs and some BBs & Cruisers but, surprisingly no DDs (both the BBs & Cruisers had less than 8, btw). Hence, I cancelled out. Who wants to play with that many vulture T4 CVs looking to feast on your flesh? So, what is this? The death of low tier play? Low tier play on Life Support? Or worse - the death of WoWS? low tier small numbers of players have been that for many years now. to be honest it is boring to play them, nowdays i free exp to tier 5 or 6 then start playing, who wants to lose time on that tier when there is so much free exp around. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 14,998 battles Report post #6 Posted November 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: So, with 10K players on (& dropping) I random up a T3 ship. So, what is in the queue? 8 CVs and some BBs & Cruisers but, surprisingly no DDs (both the BBs & Cruisers had less than 8, btw). Hence, I cancelled out. Who wants to play with that many vulture T4 CVs looking to feast on your flesh? So, what is this? The death of low tier play? Low tier play on Life Support? Or worse - the death of WoWS? I play a lot of T1, there are also zero DDs. It's a mess. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #7 Posted November 2, 2021 WG is like a junkie gradually destroying their health. They need their fix no matter what. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KVK] Cpt_Andre Players 710 posts 21,666 battles Report post #8 Posted November 2, 2021 Who in the right mind plays below T5? Besides actually grinding the tech lines, which is also questionable with all the early access events. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #9 Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Cpt_Andre said: Who in the right mind plays below T5? It *used* to be fun. Hectic melees where torpedo ships were kings. Then it got spoilt by Hosho seal clubbing. 9 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #10 Posted November 2, 2021 OP posted this at about 4am this morning.......always been like that, nothing new here. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CDD] Dutchy_2019 Players 1,927 posts 13,486 battles Report post #11 Posted November 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: It *used* to be fun. Hectic melees where torpedo ships were kings. Then it got spoilt by Hosho seal clubbing. Yup - And when Hosho got nerfed, the seal clubbers left en masse; the number of Hosho's in game (double Hosho was a regular occurrence pre-nerf) was decimated, even the number of double CV games went down (still too high IMHO). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #12 Posted November 2, 2021 The main problem of low tiers IMHO is the fact they dont count towards the daily missions and I suspect WG is not changing that because of corporate greed, they want people to go into the +-2 tier part of the MM (T5+) to get frustrated ASAP and possibly open the wallet, there are number of fun lower tier ships and premiums even but no real use for them, they dont even give flakes for them anymore... 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #13 Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, invicta2012 said: It *used* to be fun. Hectic melees where torpedo ships were kings. Then it got spoilt by Hosho seal clubbing. It was basically good fun for everyone in those days. Unfortunately for me, perhaps, it was a little too much fun and I never could adapt to the change of game play on the tiers higher up. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #14 Posted November 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: It was basically good fun for everyone in those days. Unfortunately for me, perhaps, it was a little too much fun and I never could adapt to the change of game play on the tiers higher up. I tend to prefer mid-tier battles. The gameplay at higher tiers is generally better, yes, but also more predictable since most everyone knows where to go and how best to respond in any given situation. Lower down you can get those wonderful surprises when people do the unexpected and things turn around all at once. The pacing is often better as well, since people are more inclined to take chances and dash right in (for better and for worse). There is also of course the fact that I personally still don't quite pull my own weight at the top tiers; I tend to handle myself best at tiers 5-7 (tier 8 at a pinch). But that's on me, obviously. Tiers 3-4 can be good fun unless you get double CV:s. If you do get double CV:s nothing much is very fun, not even for those CV:s. 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TF] meuhbat Players 317 posts 3,636 battles Report post #15 Posted November 2, 2021 I'm more interested by the fact that 10k players are connected at 4am ! 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KVK] Cpt_Andre Players 710 posts 21,666 battles Report post #16 Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, invicta2012 said: It *used* to be fun. Hectic melees where torpedo ships were kings. Then it got spoilt by Hosho seal clubbing. seal clubbers complaining about seal clubbers *classic* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #17 Posted November 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: the death of WoWS? Not at all 8 hours ago, Aethervoxx said: The death of low tier play? Low tier play on Life Support? Here you have a point - yes low Tiers need support desperately! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-S3I-] Peroidas Players 238 posts 5,772 battles Report post #18 Posted November 2, 2021 I do not play below T5 for the obvious reason that it do not count towards missions but there are other reasons: - BB guns are absurdly inaccurate - invisible DDs that reload torps faster than many ships guns - too many cvs around. They are not particularly strong, but with no AA on those tiers they are super annoying to the level of gamebraking especially as there are 2 of them almost in every match. Even as a person who often play CVs at higher tiers, I think T4 carriers should be removed. So when I start a new line I always go from T5 or even T6... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #19 Posted November 2, 2021 Vor 7 Minuten, Peroidas sagte: I think T4 carriers should be removed But this would create a paradise... and WG do not want us to live in paradise. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SodaBubbles Players 1,553 posts 1,028 battles Report post #20 Posted November 2, 2021 48 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said: But this would create a paradise... and WG do not want us to live in paradise. If there were no CVs I'd play T4 several games a day. It used to be a ton of fun, and Ishi was one of my favorite ships. But then the Rework wrecked it.... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #21 Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Peroidas said: - BB guns are absurdly inaccurate AFAIK BB guns share the same accuracy across the tiers so the T3 ones are every bit as accurate as the ones at T10. What's different is that the T3 ships are much smaller targets than the T10 ones, thus the inaccuracy is much more obvious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FLASH] DirtyHeddy Players 1,138 posts 27,774 battles Report post #22 Posted November 2, 2021 The game is layed out to be played at T10. Every lower tier is to be seen only as a step towards T10. Consider how much WG cares for the lower tiers ... especiallly below T5 .No new maps there since centuries. No perma camos. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #23 Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Here you have a point - yes low Tiers need support desperately! I am interested in all naval History. Always have been. I am particularly interested in REAL ships - the type that you (generally) find in lower tiers. (Yes, the "projects" and ""uncompleted" ships are interesting also - but not as much as real ships IMHO) That is why I wish that WG would do something for lower tiers. The Dreadnought era-reduced the number of nations with serious fleets IMHO. The late 19th Century / Early 20th Century had more navies to choose from, with more ships - plenty of scope for generating interest world-wide. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPA] Procrastes Beta Tester 4,083 posts 4,481 battles Report post #24 Posted November 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: I am interested in all naval History. Always have been. I am particularly interested in REAL ships - the type that you (generally) find in lower tiers. (Yes, the "projects" and ""uncompleted" ships are interesting also - but not as much as real ships IMHO) That is why I wish that WG would do something for lower tiers. The Dreadnought era-reduced the number of nations with serious fleets IMHO. The late 19th Century / Early 20th Century had more navies to choose from, with more ships - plenty of scope for generating interest world-wide. Good points, all! I have been hoping that we would get to see a few of those French pre-dreadnoughts in WowS, you know the ones Drachinifel describes in his video on "When Hotels go to War". Imagine all those little secondaries firing away at everything in sight! 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #25 Posted November 2, 2021 Vor 4 Minuten, Procrastes sagte: Ah, a Mon Calamari Battlecruiser... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites