Camperdown Players 2,501 posts 17,258 battles Report post #1 Posted October 30, 2021 Lousy player skills. Played 2 games so far, both stomps. I will not even begin to describe the idiocy. As long as WG does not give a flying for game quality, this game will continue to founder. Too bad. 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_PDW_] SobanRe Players 177 posts 17,743 battles Report post #2 Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) Let me quote one of my friends. "Why should I learn anything about this game if everything is random anyways." I wanted to explain it to him, the problem I don't have much arguments to disprove him. Edited October 30, 2021 by SobanRe Wording 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, SobanRe said: Let me quote one of my friends. "Why should I learn anything about this game if everything is random anyways." I wanted to explain it to him, the problem I don't have much arguments to disprove him. Easy. If everything is random, he can try to play the game blindfolded while hearing loud music and still get the same results as before. If he does not get the same results that way, then the game is not that random. 3 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_PDW_] SobanRe Players 177 posts 17,743 battles Report post #4 Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Easy. If everything is random, he can try to play the game blindfolded while hearing loud music and still get the same results as before. If he does not get the same results that way, then the game is not that random. If you look at the performance of some players they probably trying this. 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #5 Posted October 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, SobanRe said: If you look at the performance of some players they probably trying this. Nope. Not nearly there. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #6 Posted October 30, 2021 What is this? 2018? Is this actually a weekend warrior complaint topic? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #7 Posted October 30, 2021 Perhaps WG will soon have 'Skill Bundles' available in the Premium Shop. 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TymmiBoi Players 1 post 1,072 battles Report post #8 Posted October 30, 2021 There are always going to be awful matches. There will also be great matches. Any of these sound familiar; You set yourself, check the other ships with you on your flank, start to push and notice 4 of your team are dead & the other flank has collapsed. You're trying to fight carefully but all your teams DDs are rushing to cap zones rather than spotting and enemy ships keep disappearing before you can hurt them. Enemy DDs are keeping you detected for incoming fire & occasionally a spread of torpedoes makes your life a misery. Your DDs, instead of hunting their DDs, are hiding behind an island 10k behind the front line. When this happens don't rage. Don't cry. Reload & you'll get the match where the other side has this problem. Maybe 1 battle in 3 or 4 is a great match. Play for those. Remember those. Discuss those. Don't waste energy worrying about the others. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #9 Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Camperdown said: Lousy player skills. Played 2 games so far, both stomps. I will not even begin to describe the idiocy. As long as WG does not give a flying for game quality, this game will continue to founder. Too bad. MM would most likely do a better job if it was 100% random 3 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Easy. If everything is random, he can try to play the game blindfolded while hearing loud music and still get the same results as before. If he does not get the same results that way, then the game is not that random. Lol, pretty sure more than a few would improve. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #10 Posted October 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Camperdown said: Lousy player skills. Played 2 games so far, both stomps. I will not even begin to describe the idiocy. As long as WG does not give a flying for game quality, this game will continue to founder. Too bad. 2 games? Half term Its the Weekend. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] SeaWolf7 Players 1,818 posts 10,056 battles Report post #11 Posted October 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Perhaps WG will soon have 'Skill Bundles' available in the Premium Shop. It would probably be discontinued due to "bellow average sales". 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #12 Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Ronchabale said: Lol, pretty sure more than a few would improve. Try it out. Please tell us how many hundred battles you needed to land your first main battery hit. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-O-M] MadBadDave Players 1,355 posts Report post #13 Posted October 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Camperdown said: Lousy player skills. Played 2 games so far, both stomps. I will not even begin to describe the idiocy. As long as WG does not give a flying for game quality, this game will continue to founder. Too bad. Haven’t I been saying that for a while; WGs inept management of noobs and greed to push out high tier premiums to those who couldn’t skipper an island. The skills rework also didn’t help, Whist I agree that skill levels and the ability of a lot of idiots kill any enjoyment and our Win Rates for me the biggest issue is the MM, for example all those with less than 1000 games should be in one queue and the rest of us in another one, it’s also unfair that a T8 BB, say monarch faces a Petro, fdr, Shiki, Kremlin, etc,etc,etc. lightning 5.5km detection and 8km torps vs Petro with 12km radar, that’s very balanced. We all know WG will do sweet FA about the playerbase because there’s no money in it, what about the departing players (those that spend money, care and who’ve played for years). 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #14 Posted October 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, MadBadDave said: ... all those with less than 1000 games should be in one queue and the rest is us in another one... Which queue do you think would take longer?.... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #15 Posted October 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Camperdown said: both stomps I played yesterday on NA server where I have a respectable 51% WR & I saw seven (that's 7!) roflstomp losses in a row. Total bull crap. Not one of these farces was even close. Then I see a W which ended as a close battle (ofc) & we won by a time out (I sank 4 on that one). 7 Ls to 1 W. This just goes to show how blatantly BAD the garbage MM actually is. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #16 Posted October 30, 2021 6 hours ago, ColonelPete said: the game is not that random. It certainly isn't 'random' - never was & never will be. Wedgie says the battle queue is 'random' - that may be ... However, how Wedgie determines who goes onto each side of the battle queue is not (although we will never be able to prove this as Wedgie hides it's battle queue coding under the excuse of a 'patent'). I saw 7 roflstomp losses in a row on NA server & every one of those battles were complete jokes of a random MM. Then I saw a close W via a timed out battle (& I did my part on every battle so it wasn't 'git gud' as so many 'Turds' here like to barf out). Hence, I 100% agree with the post topic by Camperdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-O-M] MadBadDave Players 1,355 posts Report post #17 Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: Which queue do you think would take longer?.... 🤭 below a 1000 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #18 Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said: It certainly isn't 'random' - never was & never will be. Wedgie says the battle queue is 'random' - that may be ... However, how Wedgie determines who goes onto each side of the battle queue is not (although we will never be able to prove this as Wedgie hides it's battle queue coding under the excuse of a 'patent'). I saw 7 roflstomp losses in a row on NA server & every one of those battles were complete jokes of a random MM. Then I saw a close W via a timed out battle (& I did my part on every battle so it wasn't 'git gud' as so many 'Turds' here like to barf out). Hence, I 100% agree with the post topic by Camperdown. We have a thread for that... Maybe you should read it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #19 Posted October 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: It certainly isn't 'random' - never was & never will be. Wedgie says the battle queue is 'random' - that may be ... However, how Wedgie determines who goes onto each side of the battle queue is not (although we will never be able to prove this as Wedgie hides it's battle queue coding under the excuse of a 'patent'). I saw 7 roflstomp losses in a row on NA server & every one of those battles were complete jokes of a random MM. Then I saw a close W via a timed out battle (& I did my part on every battle so it wasn't 'git gud' as so many 'Turds' here like to barf out). Hence, I 100% agree with the post topic by Camperdown. I sometimes put on my fancy tinfoil hat. (Yes, it's made of those colored foils. It's special!) During those moments I brainstorm all sorts of things. One of them is that the 'random' MM also serves the function of producing predetermined battle results. How else can you explain those complete, total, inexplicably unavoidable battles where you get steamrolled flat. That is, of course, if you could have steamrolls on water.... that part I still haven't completely worked out... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #20 Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said: During those moments I brainstorm all sorts of things. One of them is that the 'random' MM also serves the function of producing predetermined battle results. How else can you explain those complete, total, inexplicably unavoidable battles where you get steamrolled flat. That is, of course, if you could have steamrolls on water.... that part I still haven't completely worked out... 100% correct, Karas_Hidesuke, +1. Very accurate response. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G-O-M] Aethervoxx Players 2,597 posts 13,191 battles Report post #21 Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: We have a thread for that... Tell the OP who began this topic - not me. I'm just replying & agreeing with him (unlike you). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #22 Posted October 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Aethervoxx said: Tell the OP who began this topic - not me. I'm just replying & agreeing with him (unlike you). he talks about player skill, not MM and I am agreeing with him that many players have lousy skills... 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[S-O-M] MadBadDave Players 1,355 posts Report post #23 Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, TymmiBoi said: There are always going to be awful matches. There will also be great matches. Any of these sound familiar; You set yourself, check the other ships with you on your flank, start to push and notice 4 of your team are dead & the other flank has collapsed. You're trying to fight carefully but all your teams DDs are rushing to cap zones rather than spotting and enemy ships keep disappearing before you can hurt them. Enemy DDs are keeping you detected for incoming fire & occasionally a spread of torpedoes makes your life a misery. Your DDs, instead of hunting their DDs, are hiding behind an island 10k behind the front line. When this happens don't rage. Don't cry. Reload & you'll get the match where the other side has this problem. Maybe 1 battle in 3 or 4 is a great match. Play for those. Remember those. Discuss those. Don't waste energy worrying about the others. Says someone with less than 1000 games, invested much time and money in the game ? come back in 2 years time and repeat the above comment, I spent ages going from sub 50% wr to over 50% and although average at best I’ve continued to improve and am a much better player than when I’d play 700 games. The standard of the player base has definitely slipped even more over the last year, Rofl stomps are a regular occurrence and carrying is seen less, now games are over within 5 mins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N-B-M] Takethatyoubeast Players 705 posts 12,918 battles Report post #24 Posted October 30, 2021 Agreed More stomps now than before Still some good games and good players Play it as a free to play game like I do now and it’s quite fun 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 1,200 posts 4,600 battles Report post #25 Posted October 30, 2021 WoWs is a totally accurate simulation of modern military..... Expect everyone to be a 'Butterbar' or worse and you'll have fun. Especially at weekends and during school holidays; oh look it's the end of half-term holiday in the UK....... Quote 'The most dangerous thing on a Battlefield is a Junior Officer with a map and a plan'.......... 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites