Historical ships.

[Bratwurstmitpommes]

Hi Boys and Girls.

PLEASE could we have a game where only historical ships are allowed?

A “choose your slot” battle?

For example Edinburgh sub-class had 2 ships. So only 2 allowed in that slot?

So a start screen with “ships available for this battle” with slots available for different ships so people can click on the ships they have?

Many thanks.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

If only we could...

[invicta2012]

Hello old chap. We had that last year, it was called "Axis Vs Allies". It was quite fun, but not that well balanced due to a lack of radar on the Axis side. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, invicta2012 said:

Hello old chap. We had that last year, it was called "Axis Vs Allies". It was quite fun, but not that well balanced due to a lack of radar on the Axis side. 

 

Did we actually have it in the game?

 

I seem to recall something... but it didn't last long did it?

[ZeuSueZ1337]

Player pool, on EU-server at least, usually peaks at around 30k, so even though I love the idea (thus being able to play w.o. "Balansgrad", Smolensk, Slava, etc.) I simply don't think the player pool are large enough to accommodate such narrow battle formats.

 

Unfortunately.....

[lafeel]

3 minutes ago, ZeuSueZ1337 said:

Peak player pool on EU-server at least is usually peaks at around 30k, so even though I love the idea (thus being able to play w.o. "Balansgrad", Smolensk, Slava, etc.) I simply don't think the player pool are large enough to accommodate such narrow battle formats.

 

Unfortunately.....

Sadly you essentially nailed the problem with this, and so many other alteranative mode ideas, right on the head. And so hard at that that I heard the "YIPE!" all the way over here in Iceland.

[invicta2012]

17 minutes ago, ZeuSueZ1337 said:

Player pool, on EU-server at least, usually peaks at around 30k, so even though I love the idea (thus being able to play w.o. "Balansgrad", Smolensk, Slava, etc.) I simply don't think the player pool are large enough to accommodate such narrow battle formats.

True. But if you put together a Tier VIII Convoy mode you'll find that around 40% of the ships will be Tirpitzez, and the other 40% will be Richelieu. You just can't tell people what to play, I suppose.

[fumtu]

1 hour ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Did we actually have it in the game?

 

I seem to recall something... but it didn't last long did it?

 

No, it was never in the game. It was tried on PTS, but dropped before it was released on the live server.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

13 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

No, it was never in the game. It was tried on PTS, but dropped before it was released on the live server.

 

Thank the Almighty. I was silently afraid I had gone completely senile already.

[MementoMori_6030]

You can always set up a training room battle for historical scenarios.

[Amon_ITA]

13 hours ago, ZeuSueZ1337 said:

Player pool, on EU-server at least, usually peaks at around 30k, so even though I love the idea (thus being able to play w.o. "Balansgrad", Smolensk, Slava, etc.) I simply don't think the player pool are large enough to accommodate such narrow battle formats.

 

Unfortunately.....

 

Not enough active players, correct answer.

 

 

[black_falcon120]

I mean a large share of the unpopular ships (Belfast, mushy, Exeter and until recently enterprise) did legitimately exist…

 

it’s just the higher up the trees you go, the fewer real ships were made, so the more paper ships have to be made, to complete the tech tree. I seriously do not support this. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

I mean a large share of the unpopular ships (Belfast, mushy, Exeter and until recently enterprise) did legitimately exist…

 

it’s just the higher up the trees you go, the fewer real ships were made, so the more paper ships have to be made, to complete the tech tree. I seriously do not support this. 

 

We all know that if we could only have real ships on the higher tiers, a certain navy, which I will be exceptionally considerate not to mention specifically (as I don't think I really have to.....) would virtually completely run out of ships halfway up the tech tree....

[black_falcon120]

38 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

We all know that if we could only have real ships on the higher tiers, a certain navy, which I will be exceptionally considerate not to mention specifically (as I don't think I really have to.....) would virtually completely run out of ships halfway up the tech tree....

Only the US and Japan have a real  cruiser or battleship at T10, I don’t think calling out a specific navy is needed. Cruisers and battleships were made by only a few nations in 1943-50 at a cutting edge level (vanguard was a mid war design and too small), and then navies moved to missiles.  At the same time, WG is pushing high tiers. If you wanted a historical game, you’d probably have to have TX stop in 1939 rather than 1945. I would argue that the Yamato forced WG’s hands.

[MementoMori_6030]

Mikasa heading into the Battle of Tsushima. Appropriate filters provided by NVIDIA. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

9 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

Only the US and Japan have a real  cruiser or battleship at T10..

 

Well, as for BB's, of course, only Japan has a real T10 BB. If Musashi was not downgraded to tier 9, you could justifiably claim that Japan could have two real t10 BB's.

[Hedgehog1963]

How exciting would Tier X be?

[FryingTonight]

Hysterical ships is the meta. 

[Ronchabale]

22 hours ago, Bratwurstmitpommes said:

Hi Boys and Girls.

 

PLEASE could we have a game where only historical ships are allowed?

 

A “choose your slot” battle?

 

For example Edinburgh sub-class had 2 ships. So only 2 allowed in that slot?

 

So a start screen with “ships available for this battle” with slots available for different ships so people can click on the ships they have?

 

Many thanks.

 

Well, maybe coz that would eliminate a load of fantasy and paper ships which would improve the game a lot

Doesn´t really matter if there are like 3 Bismarck or Edinburgh or whatever, they are historical ships and could possibly have been built in greater numbers

Its the complete fantasy monstrosities like Petropavlosk, Smolensk etc. that screw up the game / MM

 

But in the end I´d rather go for a no CV/sub game mode

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 1 Minute, Ronchabale sagte:

Well, maybe coz that would eliminate a load of fantasy and paper ships navies

[black_falcon120]

1 hour ago, Hedgehog1963 said:

How exciting would Tier X be?

I mean probably about the same as now, but 16" guns would be the current 18" guns, don't forget that the warspite (t6) could hit targets at 24km, so it would be a simple matter for WoWs to simply tamper with armor penetration, and the game play similarly.

[Hedgehog1963]

3 hours ago, black_falcon120 said:

I mean probably about the same as now, but 16" guns would be the current 18" guns, don't forget that the warspite (t6) could hit targets at 24km, so it would be a simple matter for WoWs to simply tamper with armor penetration, and the game play similarly.

So you're going to put Warspite in the same games as Yamato?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, Hedgehog1963 said:

So you're going to put Warspite in the same games as Yamato?

 

Technically speaking, it could have been entirely possible within the timeframe even though not in the real timeline. These ships coexisted in the same WW2 era. How'd you balance them in terms game design, is another matter, although I think that would also be technically possible to achieve. You'd have to think in terms of Era and Combat Proficiency classification relative to how ships belonging to older designs (refitted or not) would fit in with ships of newer design.

[kutta_joukowski]

Il y a 6 heures, black_falcon120 a dit :

Only the US and Japan have a real  cruiser or battleship at T10, I don’t think calling out a specific navy is needed.

Colbert :)

[Hedgehog1963]

3 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Technically speaking, it could have been entirely possible within the timeframe even though not in the real timeline. These ships coexisted in the same WW2 era. How'd you balance them in terms game design, is another matter, although I think that would also be technically possible to achieve. You'd have to think in terms of Era and Combat Proficiency classification relative to how ships belonging to older designs (refitted or not) would fit in with ships of newer design.

 

How would you balance the game?