[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #1 Posted October 13, 2021 Hi all, I just got the A Nevsky Cammo... Anyone else? Anybody knows why? Leo "Apollo11" 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LSCA] gabberworld Players 2,104 posts 16,946 battles Report post #2 Posted October 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: Hi all, I just got the A Nevsky Cammo... Anyone else? Anybody knows why? Leo "Apollo11" im assuming because of Moskva 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,549 battles Report post #3 Posted October 13, 2021 Hi all, Just now, gabberworld said: im assuming because of Moskva OK... seems reasoonable... but why now? New update today possibly? Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #4 Posted October 13, 2021 Vor 8 Minuten, Leo_Apollo11 sagte: Hi all, I just got the A Nevsky Cammo... Anyone else? Anybody knows why? Leo "Apollo11" All players who had any permanent camouflage for Moskva on their accounts at the time when Update 0.9.5 was released will receive the Type 20 permanent camouflage for Alexander Nevsky within a week of Update 0.10.9 being released. Those who already have the Type 20 permanent camouflage will receive 5,000 Doubloons as compensation. https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-the-tech-tree/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B000M] caferaca Players 61 posts 16,907 battles Report post #5 Posted October 13, 2021 yeah me too. I had moskva permacamo when it was moved to coal ship.. but I thought the pedro replaced it.. could be wrong of course. Still a welcome addition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-0_0-] JoeSparkx Beta Tester 235 posts 5,492 battles Report post #6 Posted October 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: Hi all, I just got the A Nevsky Cammo... Anyone else? Anybody knows why? Leo "Apollo11" As per patch notes, they are rectifying an issue when Nevsky first launched, people who had moskva and bought the camo were never compensated; Details here Update 0.10.9: Halloween | World of Warships I am happy to note, those who purchased the Aurora Camo also got compensated, because I got Aurora instead of the Type 20, I thought I wouldn't get the Nevsky Camo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[B000M] caferaca Players 61 posts 16,907 battles Report post #7 Posted October 13, 2021 Thanks for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #8 Posted October 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: Anybody knows why? As per @MementoMori_6030's extract from the patch-notes, WG realised that all the old lags currently think they are generally awful and beyond the pale (can't imagine why), and - more importantly - this news has spread beyond just the forum etc. I might even guess that turnover has been impacted, which will be the real reason for any positive changes. Hence, WG are retrospectively fixing one of the more high profile shaftings of paying customers of the game. I file this under 'positive developments', although this category is being rather eclipsed by the mishandling of submarines... 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K1NGS] PaP_Mentoles [K1NGS] Players 616 posts 17,494 battles Report post #9 Posted October 13, 2021 Took them almost a year, but OK is something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #10 Posted October 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, caferaca said: ... but I thought the pedro replaced it.. could be wrong of course. Nope, you are wrong. Nevsky replaced Moskva, Petro was a T10 in new CA branch. Even tho Moskva itself is CA, it is Nevsky which took her place as a T10 of original, now CL, line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,900 battles Report post #11 Posted October 13, 2021 I also got 5000 dubloons as I already had the perma camos. There was an in-game notification on the dubloons and a number of minutes later a 'news po-up' gave the reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #12 Posted October 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, fumtu said: Nope, you are wrong. Nevsky replaced Moskva, Petro was a T10 in new CA branch. Even tho Moskva itself is CA, it is Nevsky which took her place as a T10 of original, now CL, line. Strictly speaking Nevsky is also a CA as CL's are 155mm guns and below so Nevsky is only a CL by comparison.. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SWAMP] Gloatover Players 510 posts 12,410 battles Report post #13 Posted October 13, 2021 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14 Posted October 13, 2021 I can confirm getting Nevsky perma camo... but... Spoiler I haven't bought any for Moskva No WG, no errors here, everything gud comrade, carry on 10 minutes ago, lafeel said: Strictly speaking Nevsky is also a CA as CL's are 155mm guns and below so Nevsky is only a CL by comparison.. And yet, she is "CL" because she have the same HE pen as 152mm guns and require IFHE if you need anything more than that. Heck, Mogami's 155 have 31mm pen, which in turn allows her to reach 38mm pen, unique among CLs besides German ones. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #15 Posted October 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Panocek said: I can confirm getting Nevsky perma camo... but... Reveal hidden contents I haven't bought any for Moskva No WG, no errors here, everything gud comrade, carry on And yet, she is "CL" because she have the same HE pen as 152mm guns and require IFHE if you need anything more than that. Heck, Mogami's 155 have 31mm pen, which in turn allows her to reach 38mm pen, unique among CLs besides German ones. First part: shh, let's not correct that one, as I'm in the same boat. Second part: Seeing as the term "heavy cruiser" has long been linked to the treaties of the 20th and 30th decades of the last century, it'd be wrong to start finding ways to re invent it here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #16 Posted October 13, 2021 Well see if 5k gold Wait for me when I come home, together with some Ranked might pay for the next dockyard… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #17 Posted October 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, lafeel said: Second part: Seeing as the term "heavy cruiser" has long been linked to the treaties of the 20th and 30th decades of the last century, it'd be wrong to start finding ways to re invent it here. Then you can consider Nevski/other 180mm armed Russian cruisers as remarkably crappy heavy cruisers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #18 Posted October 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Panocek said: Then you can consider Nevski/other 180mm armed Russian cruisers as remarkably crappy heavy cruisers That is, of course a whole another discussion.You'll note that I never claimed otherwise. In fact, in hindsight, there really should have been a Medium Cruiser category around the 180mm mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #19 Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, lafeel said: First part: shh, let's not correct that one, as I'm in the same boat. Me too, I think - I could have sworn that I didn't have permaflage for Moskva when she switched to being coal (I did get permaflage for whatever the replacement is though). Mind you, before they fire whoever messed up the algorithm, it does increase the likelihood of me buying something shiny in the near future, so win for WG regardless (especially as there's zero real cost to this stuff to them)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BS4] aleksi111 Players 238 posts 18,079 battles Report post #20 Posted October 13, 2021 Spoiler Such a nice present to get. What baffles me is that I never got Permanent Camouflage on Moskva when it was in Tech Tree, I just got the ship like an month or two before it was removed. So technically I wasn't supposed to be one of those meant to be compensated. however, Ferengi rules of acquisition #1 apply Spoiler 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-M] Isoruku_Yamamoto Players 1,437 posts 16,247 battles Report post #21 Posted October 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, aleksi111 said: Reveal hidden contents Such a nice present to get. What baffles me is that I never got Permanent Camouflage on Moskva when it was in Tech Tree, I just got the ship like an month or two before it was removed. So technically I wasn't supposed to be one of those meant to be compensated. however, Ferengi rules of acquisition #1 apply Reveal hidden contents This, i was surprised too, because i knew of this compensation rule, but i never owned the Moskva Permacamo, only the ship itself. So i am not supposed to get the permacamo i guess, but hey, i wont complain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #22 Posted October 13, 2021 59 minutes ago, lafeel said: Strictly speaking Nevsky is also a CA as CL's are 155mm guns and below so Nevsky is only a CL by comparison.. By London Naval Treaty yes, you are right. As it has guns larger then 155mm it should be classified as CA. But SU never signed London Naval Treaty and they classified their Kirov class cruisers with 180mm guns as CLs. I don't know if SU considered all cruisers armed with 180mm guns as light but in WoWs this seems to be case. For WoWs, everything bellow 8lnch is CL, with exception of Hawkins, which is considered as CA even her guns are smaller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #23 Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Panocek said: I can confirm getting Nevsky perma camo... but... Reveal hidden contents I haven't bought any for Moskva No WG, no errors here, everything gud comrade, carry on Same here .... how long till WG realize their mistake .... if at all (I hope the last one as I would like to keep it) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RDNT] ZeuSueZ1337 Players 434 posts Report post #24 Posted October 13, 2021 +1 for getting Moskva prior to tech-tree change but w.o. any sort of perma camo. And it appears that I for now have it in my inventory.....however I expect it to be rescinded once they бюджетный отдел identifies the error, and then I persume to be send to gulag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMD] Spartan_93 [NMD] Beta Tester 1,137 posts 7,227 battles Report post #25 Posted October 13, 2021 Quote Any players who had a permanent camouflage for X Moskva on their accounts at the time when Update 0.9.5 was released will receive the Type 20 permanent camouflage for X Alexander Nevsky within a week of Update 0.10.9 going live. Those who already have the Type 20 permanent camouflage will receive 5,000 Doubloons as compensation. At the time when Update 0.9.5 was released Moskva became a special ship and special ships have a permanent camoflage. => at the time when Update 0.9.5 was released every owner of a Moskva had that Type 20 camo. => Everything fine with the free camos for the A Nevsky. Thx WG, best move you made in last time. I hope, you will not take it back. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
