I'm going to pass on this

[Ocsimano18]

This is the best offer I've ever gotten from WG, but the game is trending to a direction, where I feel it's not worth investing into it anymore.

 

My main concerns:

1. Nerfable premiums, extreme fast depreciation of any ship

2. Rushed content without any polish

3. Deteriorating gameplay

4. General feeling that WG is trying to squeeze out my money, this is contra productive, I'd have spent much more with WG being less greedy

 

[Gwynbleidd11]

I still can't get it why people are shortsighted regarding the premium ships nerfs or buffs. Don't we want a balanced game instead of more Musashi's?

 

I'm going to use the coupon for 25k doubs (50 k after refund), might buy Constellation with coupon and use the rest for something the next year or so

[bloodynicknames]

5 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

I still can't get it why people are shortsighted regarding the premium ships nerfs or buffs. Don't we want a balanced game instead of more Musashi's?

 

I'm going to use the coupon for 25k doubs (50 k after refund), might buy Constellation with coupon and use the rest for something the next year or so

i've said it before and i'll say it again, if you still spend no this you're part of the problem. 

 

also, you buy something "as is" for the characteristics it posses at that point. 

producing OP ships and selling them for $$$ then nerfing them into the ground is just a shady practice. 

WG could balance ships before they got released, they have plents of player feedback on garbage like the smolensk and FDR(yes, both steel, i know) but they chose to ignore that and push them out in their OP state. 

[Cpt_Andre]

10 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

I still can't get it why people are shortsighted regarding the premium ships nerfs or buffs.

me neither, was and is a strange approach to begin with ; take over from WoT;  flawed from the beginning in an evolving PvP game.

 

Also: Buff? pls gib! Nerf? Don't touch my peepee

[Gwynbleidd11]

18 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said:

i've said it before and i'll say it again, if you still spend no this you're part of the problem. 

 

also, you buy something "as is" for the characteristics it posses at that point. 

producing OP ships and selling them for $$$ then nerfing them into the ground is just a shady practice. 

WG could balance ships before they got released, they have plents of player feedback on garbage like the smolensk and FDR(yes, both steel, i know) but they chose to ignore that and push them out in their OP state. 

 

But they can't always foresee how the premium ship will look like among new lines or new premiums in the next few years. I think 3 months of current testing is enough to release them

[Yosha_AtaIante]

32 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

This is the best offer I've ever gotten from WG, but the game is trending to a direction, where I feel it's not worth investing into it anymore.

 

My main concerns:

1. Nerfable premiums, extreme fast depreciation of any ship

2. Rushed content without any polish

3. Deteriorating gameplay

4. General feeling that WG is trying to squeeze out my money, this is contra productive, I'd have spent much more with WG being less greedy

 

Can you explain to me

 

If you get a really good offer that enables you to get something you kind of wanted anyway from a non greedy salesperson you would probably get it especially if the price is possibly halfed?

 

But if you get the same good offer by a greedy person with the same halved price you wont?

 

Why exactly is that?

After all the clothes you wear are likely to be produced by cheap labor somewhere far from where you buy them unless you go out of your way to spend extra money for locally produced goods? Same is true for every day items which are produced especially plastic and other such things. Most products you buy every day are made to barely fit your quality standards and are produced as efficent ( cheap) as possible unless you go out of your way to pay a fortune for special care made goods.

So while you support greedy companies getting away with barely passable qualities by buying their items out of necessity something you actually would like to get from a source of enjoyment (WOWS clearly is otherwise you wouldnt care to play or post here all the time and complain how good it could be) you won't get it even if its a damn great offer just because you feel this company is greedy? Do you truly feel that you have any chance of changing WGs way by actively sabotaging your own enjoyment?

Remember after not taking this very generous offer you can barely claim WG being greedy since they literally gave you the opportunity to double the gain of a product for the original price. I wonder when I will ever get double the amount of Gas or two Iphones for the price of one?

[Tanaka_15]

3 minutes ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

 

But they can't always foresee how the premium ship will look like among new lines or new premiums in the next few years. I think 3 months of current testing is enough to release them

TBh you can. WG development tatic is POWERCREEEEEP! so you prem ship will be week and close to usless in 1-2 year time. 

[__Worf__]

27 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said:

i've said it before and i'll say it again, if you still spend no this you're part of the problem. 

 

also, you buy something "as is" for the characteristics it posses at that point. 

producing OP ships and selling them for $$$ then nerfing them into the ground is just a shady practice. 

WG could balance ships before they got released, they have plents of player feedback on garbage like the smolensk and FDR(yes, both steel, i know) but they chose to ignore that and push them out in their OP state. 

well said sir

[Gwynbleidd11]

Just now, Tanaka_15 said:

TBh you can. WG development tatic is POWERCREEEEEP! so you prem ship will be week and close to usless in 1-2 year time. 

 

Nonsence, old premium like Massa, Jean Bart are nothing special, but definitely not "usless"

[Tanaka_15]

Just now, Gwynbleidd11 said:

 

Nonsence, old premium like Massa, Jean Bart are nothing special, but definitely not "usless"

You know so little John Snow, Look at Scharnchorst (once one of best ships in game), błyska, even Belfast at t7 (total monster of a ship rember?) Atlanta, Flint.  TBH Jan Bart is also not as strong as i used to be, and it is not Old prem ship. So yeach. The exepction is Atago but i is still a crusers so. 

[FooFaFie]

11 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

TBh you can. WG development tatic is POWERCREEEEEP! so you prem ship will be week and close to usless in 1-2 year time. 

The ships I play the most are still my ships from the first techtree line. My JPN cruisers that I got in 2015/2016. I still have great fun in them. 

 

So that POWERCREEEEP you mention isn't that bad. WG could have easily made a real power creep with each new line and premium. But instead the "pro-players" is whining about new lines not being strong enough.

[Lukewehr]

Lol quite funny to see forumites constantly arguing about this . For me it was enough when i bought the belfast just to find out that many of her characteristics eere changed heavily short after.

Sure general changes sure needed balance bla bla , the only thing it really matters to me is that they conned me into buying an item and switching to another AFTER  my purchase. 

Too bad those were the last crowns i ever used in this game which i still play and enjoy but from a free money oint of view.

[tocqueville8]

44 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said:

garbage like the smolensk and FDR(yes, both steel, i know)

Smolensk was for coal, wasn't she?

[stefanorgano]

43 minutes ago, bloodynicknames said:

both steel

ACTUALLY Smolensk was for coal

[FooFaFie]

Also I support OP. You shouldn't spend money on this game every opportunity/discount you get. You shouldn't buy every premium they launch. And you shouldn't get every collection WG makes. There's literally no need do it all. And even WG doesn't expect you to do so. 

 

And if you do. Just know it isn't normal behavior and you will get emotional when things change.

[tocqueville8]

 

23 minutes ago, Tanaka_15 said:

You know so little John Snow, Look at Scharnchorst (once one of best ships in game), błyska, even Belfast at t7 (total monster of a ship rember?) Atlanta, Flint.  TBH Jan Bart is also not as strong as i used to be, and it is not Old prem ship. So yeach. The exepction is Atago but i is still a crusers so. 

JB is fine.

Scharnhorst is fine.

Atlanta and Flint are still good in the hands of a good player.

 

Blyska was my 1st T7 DD: I got her for coal way after the stealth-firing rework, and I did well.

Belfast was not a "total monster of a ship": she was t-o-x-i-c, and she still is in Ranked.

 

Meanwhile, Druid gets 6.6 concealment and they remove the superheal before release.

Still a good ship in the hands of good players (they only ones who are going to bother), but not exactly idiot-proof like a Scharnhorst, or absurd like a Benham...

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

37 minutes ago, Yosha_nai said:

Can you explain to me

 

If you get a really good offer that enables you to get something you kind of wanted anyway from a non greedy salesperson you would probably get it especially if the price is possibly halfed?

 

But if you get the same good offer by a greedy person with the same halved price you wont?

 

Why exactly is that?

After all the clothes you wear are likely to be produced by cheap labor somewhere far from where you buy them unless you go out of your way to spend extra money for locally produced goods? Same is true for every day items which are produced especially plastic and other such things. Most products you buy every day are made to barely fit your quality standards and are produced as efficent ( cheap) as possible unless you go out of your way to pay a fortune for special care made goods.

So while you support greedy companies getting away with barely passable qualities by buying their items out of necessity something you actually would like to get from a source of enjoyment (WOWS clearly is otherwise you wouldnt care to play or post here all the time and complain how good it could be) you won't get it even if its a damn great offer just because you feel this company is greedy? Do you truly feel that you have any chance of changing WGs way by actively sabotaging your own enjoyment?

Remember after not taking this very generous offer you can barely claim WG being greedy since they literally gave you the opportunity to double the gain of a product for the original price. I wonder when I will ever get double the amount of Gas or two Iphones for the price of one?

You are actually wrong.

 

Sure there are greedy companies with shady practices, but boycotting them can absolutely change things. So, yes. Sabotaging your own enjoyment can help.

 

Also, WG is not even like a clothing company producing their wares somewhere with cheap labor. They literally ask you to pay and you may get the pair of pants you want, or you may get a pair of pants, but most likely you will get three pockets. Enjoy them.

[MadBadDave]

1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said:

This is the best offer I've ever gotten from WG, but the game is trending to a direction, where I feel it's not worth investing into it anymore.

 

My main concerns:

1. Nerfable premiums, extreme fast depreciation of any ship

2. Rushed content without any polish

3. Deteriorating gameplay

4. General feeling that WG is trying to squeeze out my money, this is contra productive, I'd have spent much more with WG being less greedy

 

Number 3 is my bug bear, the player base under WG’s anal direction is killing a good convoy mode and is killing randoms.

 

Why spend £150 + on an all singing all dancing ship/pack when you put said ship into a T10 only to see Total clueless idiots wreck your enjoyment / game.

 

Unfortunately  while the good players refuse to pay out or even jump ship, said noobs/clueless idiots will spend, spend, spend, why do you think WG are so keen to push subs ? premium Subs 😉.  
 

Despite the apology WG has NOT changed at all, nor will they !.

[Nibenay78]

4 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Why spend £150 + on an all singing all dancing ship/pack when you put said ship into a T10 only to see Total clueless idiots wreck your enjoyment / game.

why spend £150 to unluck some marginal part of the content of a game, while you can get a really amazing full game for 10% of this sum? This is what I don't get.

 

 

[DinkyDi]

1 hour ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

I still can't get it why people are shortsighted regarding the premium ships nerfs or buffs. Don't we want a balanced game instead of more Musashi's?

 

I'm going to use the coupon for 25k doubs (50 k after refund), might buy Constellation with coupon and use the rest for something the next year or so

are you some kind of alt of WG Employees ? or somebody, that is trying hard to get WG job ?

It looks like one of the above

[Gwynbleidd11]

Just now, DinkyDi said:

are you some kind of alt of WG Employees ? or somebody, that is trying hard to get WG job ?

It looks like one of the above

 

sure dinky

[hellhound666]

1 hour ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

I still can't get it why people are shortsighted regarding the premium ships nerfs or buffs. Don't we want a balanced game instead of more Musashi's?

 

I'm going to use the coupon for 25k doubs (50 k after refund), might buy Constellation with coupon and use the rest for something the next year or so

im writing really slow now - balance is good. if in the process of balancing (like removing fire prevention from supecruisers or nerfing secondaries of secondary ships, etc) concluded deal becomes worse for the client, then the client should be able to get compensated if he wants it. like it was with kutuzov, belfst, etc

[Dongi_2018]

I am having the same thoughts as OP. My 2 SC had some nice drops. My recent spending have mostly been paid by ingame earned currency and SC doubloons. So my mood is a bit more positive.
 

Do i need doubloons? Have 3k, just a small reserve. Do not intend to buy stages for the xmas DY. Do i crave a specific premium ship? Nope. Premium time? No, sure is nice to receive some days for free but not buying time.

 

Only thought is about buying another good scenario premium ship ( BB or cruisers)for a nation thats not yet well represented in my port. Like Scharnhorst, Hyuuga / Ashitaka or even Florida ( being the only US BB premium thats not slow at T6/ T7). Weimar is an cruiser option. Or Perth. 
 

So spending 30€ for another dedicated scenario ship ( in adition to my current uses premiums like Warspite , PEF, Dunk, ARP Myoko, Strassbourg, Nelson, Lazo) with the added bonus of having 6-9k doubloons extra. Which gives me the option of using my 25% coupon to buy another ship on the list.

[Ocsimano18]

2 hours ago, Yosha_nai said:

Can you explain to me

 

If you get a really good offer that enables you to get something you kind of wanted anyway from a non greedy salesperson you would probably get it especially if the price is possibly halfed?

 

But if you get the same good offer by a greedy person with the same halved price you wont?

 

Why exactly is that?

After all the clothes you wear are likely to be produced by cheap labor somewhere far from where you buy them unless you go out of your way to spend extra money for locally produced goods? Same is true for every day items which are produced especially plastic and other such things. Most products you buy every day are made to barely fit your quality standards and are produced as efficent ( cheap) as possible unless you go out of your way to pay a fortune for special care made goods.

So while you support greedy companies getting away with barely passable qualities by buying their items out of necessity something you actually would like to get from a source of enjoyment (WOWS clearly is otherwise you wouldnt care to play or post here all the time and complain how good it could be) you won't get it even if its a damn great offer just because you feel this company is greedy? Do you truly feel that you have any chance of changing WGs way by actively sabotaging your own enjoyment?

Remember after not taking this very generous offer you can barely claim WG being greedy since they literally gave you the opportunity to double the gain of a product for the original price. I wonder when I will ever get double the amount of Gas or two Iphones for the price of one?

It’s very easy to explain, humans evolved living with other humans. Many tried to exploit others. Those who survived so far developed emotions to detect exploitation, we just feel it when it’s time to end a toxic relationship.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 hour ago, Ocsimano18 said:

It’s very easy to explain, humans evolved living with other humans. Many tried to exploit others. Those who survived so far developed emotions to detect exploitation, we just feel it when it’s time to end a toxic relationship.

You are right. humans evolved. The ones who are exploiting others are at the top