Grind in advance? (regarding GK & Khabar)

[ZeuSueZ1337]

If nothing else this new modus operandi regarding relegating ships from the techtree to armoury/coal-ship status leaves a question that might already have been answered albeit I cannot find it, so here goes;

 

I'll address the issue from my own perspective. I own both GK and Khabar (I seldom play them, but that's sort of besides the point at this time) but have loooong time ago sold of both FDG and Tashkent.

If I were to re-purchase those boats again/now and run up say 150k+ xp on these over the reminder of 2021, would I then be able to "insta-unlock" the new boats come early 2022 when they are made available with the already earned xp? Or do we need to wait until the changes take affect in the techtree thus only xp earned after these changes are usable for unlocking those ships?

[Shirakami_Kon]

As with any update any acummulated exp you have on your ships should be there, so if you pregrind the exp requirement again on your tier 9s and wait for the change you would have the exp ready to research the new ships the second they come out.

[Prophecy82]

Wait, what? Khaba will also be a freemium-ified? 

[El2aZeR]

2 minutes ago, Prophecy82 said:

Wait, what? Khaba will also be a freemium-ified? 

 

Yup.

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/221

 

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Soviet Tier X destroyer Delny has been added to the game for testing. At the beginning of 2022, she will replace Khabarovsk in Soviet Tech Tree.

 

[SodaBubbles]

What is the logic behind making GK a freemium and adding a tech tree ship. Why not just add the new T10 German as a premium? What am I missing?

[FlamingHooligan]

8 minutes ago, SodaBubbles said:

 GK a freemium?

What's the GK being replaced with?

[bEtHeNs]

 

1 minuto antes, FlamingHooligan dijo:

What's the GK being replaced with?

Preusen, 4x2 457 mm I have been told.

[bEtHeNs]

46 minutos antes, SodaBubbles dijo:

What is the logic behind making GK a freemium and adding a tech tree ship. Why not just add the new T10 German as a premium? What am I missing?

It seems the GK does not fit in the line performance. Maybe the 4x3 turrets is too much and they prefer to give 4x2 as tier VIII and IX have, or it is just a reasoning after taking a decision.

 

From dev blog:

 

In early 2022, Preussen will replace the Grosser Kurfürst in the Tech tree. The ship better matches the progression and gameplay of the branch: it is equipped with a small number of guns, which is in turn compensated for by their solid caliber. Otherwise, the Preussen is similar in its features to the Grosser Kurfürst and other German Battleships.

The following changes will be made to the Grosser Kurfürst after the replacement of ships:

• Grosser Kurfürst will become a special ship - the cost of the ship's post-battle service will be decreased. You will be able to assign Commanders from other ships of the same nation to her without any penalties and retraining requirements. Current commanders will keep their specialty.
• The ship will be added into the Armory for Coal.
• Grosser Kurfürst will remain on the accounts of its owners. If the ship was researched but not bought, sold, or the branch was reset, she will be invoiced to the player's account.
• The ship will keep its unique upgrade and any purchased permanent camouflages. If permanent camouflage Type 20 was not purchased - it will be credited.

All players who own any permanent camouflage for Grosser Kurfürst will receive the Type 20 permanent camouflage for Preussen. The ship herself can only be obtained after researching and purchasing it in the tech tree.

[Trench4nt]

Vor 1 Stunde, SodaBubbles sagte:

What is the logic behind making GK a freemium and adding a tech tree ship. Why not just add the new T10 German as a premium? What am I missing?

 

Well, look at the ships.

Bismarck, FdG and Preußen will have the 4x2 layout and the premium/special Pommern and GK have 4x3. Seems to make sense.

[FlamingHooligan]

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/222

[RenamedUser_92906789]

So.. I will have to FXP FDG the second time.

Just as I had to FXP Donskoi twice :)

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 4 Stunden, SodaBubbles sagte:

What is the logic behind making GK a freemium and adding a tech tree ship. Why not just add the new T10 German as a premium? What am I missing?

For us players it is better to convert GK to a Special ship. This way you can have both GK and Preußen for just the normal grind rather than spending coal, free XP or dubloons on one of them. I'd call this "customer friendly".

[Yedwy]

8 hours ago, ZeuSueZ1337 said:

If I were to re-purchase those boats again/now and run up say 150k+ xp on these over the reminder of 2021, would I then be able to "insta-unlock" the new boats come early 2022 when they are made available with the already earned xp?

OFC if you have say 300k on Tash and FDG ready when they are swapped you can unlock the new ships as soon as the respective patch hits, I might do the same actually or should I say something similar as both lines are currently reset so I will grind the xp for T10 and simply not unlock it until the swap

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Actually the oncoming Arms Race might be a good opportunity to grind T9 ships if you don't like randoms. Plus .. apparently subs wont be in arms race ;)

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 54 Minuten, Johnny_Moneto sagte:

For us players it is better to convert GK to a Special ship. This way you can have both GK and Preußen for just the normal grind rather than spending coal, free XP or dubloons on one of them. I'd call this "customer friendly".

From an economic POV: Yes.

 

But if I dont want to play TX BB with CV and SS, having an additional TX BB port queen will only be a bonus for snowflake events. 

[Johnny_Moneto]

Vor 9 Minuten, MementoMori_6030 sagte:

From an economic POV: Yes.

 

But if I dont want to play TX BB with CV and SS, having an additional TX BB port queen will only be a bonus for snowflake events. 

In this case it might be ok to just don't bother with the announcement at all.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 6 Minuten, Johnny_Moneto sagte:

In this case it might be ok to just don't bother with the announcement at all.

Well, you can make some credits by selling the ship in time.

[Onsterfelijke]

What is going to happen with my transformer cammos and captains? (Rubble and MEgatron)

 

 

[Cpt_Andre]

2 minutes ago, Onsterfelijke said:

What is going to happen with my transformer cammos and captains? (Rubble and MEgatron)

 

 

Dedicated GK/Khabarovsk camos will stay on the GK/Khabarovsk, but if you have the regular Type20 (?) premium camo bought, you will received these also for the new ship

[Ubertron_X]

6 hours ago, Trench4nt said:

Well, look at the ships.

Bismarck, FdG and Preußen will have the 4x2 layout and the premium/special Pommern and GK have 4x3. Seems to make sense.

I even assume that this change will done with the super battleships in mind. Remember that Hannover has 4x2 483mm. Perhaps we will see T11 eventually.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 3 Minuten, Ubertron_X sagte:

Perhaps we will see T11 eventually.

I certainly won't. 

[Panocek]

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-the-tech-tree/

Well, news made it to main page, so probably it is set in stone these tech tree changes will happen, amrite? @MrConway @YabbaCoe

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 22 Minuten, Panocek sagte:

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-the-tech-tree/

Preussen continues the concept of the German battleship branch—ships of this branch are armed with few guns, but their impressive caliber compensates for their small number.

 

Ah, I see. The 6 guns of Gneisenau and 8 guns of Bismarck (few guns) have an impressive caliber (380mm)... makes sense. And then we have the giant 305mm guns of Kaiser and König. Where, in WGs' addled minds, do the German BBs have a caliber advantage anywhere below T9?

[Yedwy]

1 minute ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Preussen continues the concept of the German battleship branch—ships of this branch are armed with few guns, but their impressive caliber compensates for their small number.

 

Ah, I see. The 6 guns of Gneisenau and 8 guns of Bismarck (few guns) have an impressive caliber (380mm)... makes sense. And then we have the giant 305mm guns of Kaiser and König. Where, in WGs' addled minds, do the German BBs have a caliber advantage anywhere below T9?

Well we all know that 6x15” of Gneis is more then 9x16” of Sinop, oh Wait…

[Hugh_Ruka]

7 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

Preussen continues the concept of the German battleship branch—ships of this branch are armed with few guns, but their impressive caliber compensates for their small number.

 

Ah, I see. The 6 guns of Gneisenau and 8 guns of Bismarck (few guns) have an impressive caliber (380mm)... makes sense. And then we have the giant 305mm guns of Kaiser and König. Where, in WGs' addled minds, do the German BBs have a caliber advantage anywhere below T9?

I think they mixed that up with the new alternate branch :-)