When do you "learn your trade" in WoWs

[Harvin87]

Hello Captains, out of curiosity question over here:

When can you say that someone has "learned his/her trade" in WoWs? I'm getting to 2.5k battles and around 51 WR%. It's getting better over time although is till very volatile. When can you say someone is an "experienced player"?

Personally I'm still green in many regards of this game, specially in tactical situations, what to do at that exact moment. Strategicaly I'm ok, knowing what would be required of me in a game situation but the problem is failing to find a way to do it (tactical) I guess you learn with more battles. Hence the question. 

 

thx for your insight.

[Yedwy]

I am still learning after 30k battles

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, Harvin87 said:

Hello Captains, out of curiosity question over here:

When can you say that someone has "learned his/her trade" in WoWs? I'm getting to 2.5k battles and around 51 WR%. It's getting better over time although is till very volatile. When can you say someone is an "experienced player"?

Personally I'm still green in many regards of this game, specially in tactical situations, what to do at that exact moment. Strategicaly I'm ok, knowing what would be required of me in a game situation but the problem is failing to find a way to do it (tactical) I guess you learn with more battles. Hence the question. 

 

thx for your insight.

Experience does not automaticly mean you are skilled.

You can be very experienced in the game and still be bad at it:

 

Spoiler

 

You are already better than the majority of the players and with 2.5k battles, I would not call you green. You reach your limit, when your WR does not improve anymore.

 

 

[MimosA_A]

I wouldn't really use winrate of a measure of whether you've "learned your trade". While it's a good indicator of whether you're doing well or not, I'd say for yourself and the amount of fun you're having improving etc, I'd say you've learned/are learning your trade when you notice you are confident in anticipating what's going to happen in situations, when you start to predict/anticipate enemy actions and know how and where to position yourself to make the best use of your ship and the situation.

 

Basically when you (sometimes unconsciously) are already thinking ahead instead of just dealing with the current situation, when you realise the possible threats before they have you in their sights, that kind of stuff.

[Bear__Necessities]

You never stop learning. The meta changes constantly, new lines are added, mechanics changed and new maps and modes created. When subs go live, everything I learned will need to be adjusted and will have to adapt to new playstyles all over again. And I have a combined 20k battles on 2 servers. 

[Leo_Apollo11]

Hi all,

 

19 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

I am still learning after 30k battles

 

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

[Verblonde]

30 minutes ago, Harvin87 said:

When can you say that someone has "learned his/her trade" in WoWs?

I think it varies from person to person, and also class to class (plus, of course, what @Bear__Necessities said about the changing meta etc.); if it ever happens to me, I'll let people know...!

[GarrusBrutus]

1 hour ago, Harvin87 said:

Hello Captains, out of curiosity question over here:

When can you say that someone has "learned his/her trade" in WoWs? I'm getting to 2.5k battles and around 51 WR%. It's getting better over time although is till very volatile. When can you say someone is an "experienced player"?

Personally I'm still green in many regards of this game, specially in tactical situations, what to do at that exact moment. Strategicaly I'm ok, knowing what would be required of me in a game situation but the problem is failing to find a way to do it (tactical) I guess you learn with more battles. Hence the question. 

 

thx for your insight.

When someone has fallen off Mount Stupid and has aknowledged that he in fact knows very little about the game, I'd say that player is experienced. 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Once you know how to 'open all crates' or discovered what ship type you are good at or are able to do this

[Nibenay78]

10 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

When someone has fallen off Mount Stupid and has aknowledged that he in fact knows very little about the game, I'd say that player is experienced. 

Decided to just read a bit more about it. The first thing I found was an article how the above graph is a gross misrepresentation of the DK paper, but used everywhere :D

 

Nevertheless the above graph certainly feels correct when one discusses with certain people...

[Shaka_D]

1 hour ago, Bear__Necessities said:

You never stop learning. The meta changes constantly, new lines are added, mechanics changed and new maps and modes created. When subs go live, everything I learned will need to be adjusted and will have to adapt to new playstyles all over again. And I have a combined 20k battles on 2 servers. 

This, very much so. Experience means little unless you've paid attention along the way, but a person never stops learning. Developing the skill to adjust your gameplay dynamically is a key factor I'd say, which draws upon your experience and knowledge of ships / maps / way previous battles have played out. Sherbert, I still go into many games and yolo like a clown within minutes trying a tactic that doesn't work out well.....never be afraid to try things.

[Prophecy82]

1 hour ago, GarrusBrutus said:

When someone has fallen off Mount Stupid and has aknowledged that he in fact knows very little about the game, I'd say that player is experienced. 

 

But what if it only stays a linear function like f(x) = 5x ?

Or Mount Stupid is the supremum of the function?

[Aethervoxx]

As to learning my 'ship class trades', I'm (imho) somewhat competent although the 'resident under the bridge dwellers'  would say I haven't learnt, at all,  any 'trade' of this kind.

I learnt to 'trade' in WoWS, in that I spent money  to buy doubloons to speed up my obtaining of ship equipment & upgrades.

I also learnt to 'trade' money for some premium   ships .

Now, I have unlearnt this 'trade' due to what WG has done  to this game since (& including) the CV rework.

I've, now, learnt not   to make 'trades' with WoWS. 

[OldPappy]

18 hours ago, Yedwy said:

I am still learning after 30k battles

I know this feeling!!!

[OldPappy]

18 hours ago, Harvin87 said:

Hello Captains, out of curiosity question over here:

When can you say that someone has "learned his/her trade" in WoWs? I'm getting to 2.5k battles and around 51 WR%. It's getting better over time although is till very volatile. When can you say someone is an "experienced player"?

Personally I'm still green in many regards of this game, specially in tactical situations, what to do at that exact moment. Strategicaly I'm ok, knowing what would be required of me in a game situation but the problem is failing to find a way to do it (tactical) I guess you learn with more battles. Hence the question. 

 

thx for your insight.

The learning never really ends. 
But if you have already a strategic sense you are way ahead of the pack already! This is the hardest thing to learn in my opinion. 
But for me I really got better after about 9000 or so games when I broke through the 50% wall. 
I am a very slow learner though!😂

[MrWastee]

i don't learn anything. makes game easy somehow

[Camperdown]

It varies a lot.

Some people are still noobs after 10K battles. Some are quite good after just a thousand.

Much difference can be made by using available sources of knowledge, such as the wiki, this site and watching tutorials and streamers.

And then indeed, you never stop learning 

As a ball park figure I think you need about 2K battles and + 51% WR to be decent. On average.

[Onsterfelijke]

While experience will go far you should check the video's of good players (or if you have the time the bad players what not todo) That brought my score of 35% to 50%

 

The challenge is going further then the +50% WR my tip is not to play a lot of T10 you don't learn anything from those players. Try to join a clan who are active in clan battles of a group of players you play a lot of Ranked/randows with growing from t7-t9.

 

Good luck but the most is just have fun...

 

 

[Harvin87]

Sure, I enjoy a lot T7-T9, actually is where I spent my time in WoWs, I only have 2 T10 ships (Halland and Thunderer), but I guess eventually I'll get many more, since I'm gringind to get the Wooster and Des Moines. I'm also interested in Daring because I'm enjoying the British DD line a lot and would also probably go for Petro or Nevsky, now that it's worthless to sit on tons of free xp (WG said they don't have any plans on releasing good free xp ships in the forseable future), I might as well skip til Chapayev and Tallin and go up from there in both lines. 

 

My goal is to reach 53% by 3k battles, and considering my projection is feasable, difficult yes, but definetely doable.

[RossijskijAxisFlot]

Zlatan doesn't learn the game, the game learns Zlatan (me)

[Ronchabale]

On 9/23/2021 at 12:17 PM, Harvin87 said:

Hello Captains, out of curiosity question over here:

When can you say that someone has "learned his/her trade" in WoWs? I'm getting to 2.5k battles and around 51 WR%. It's getting better over time although is till very volatile. When can you say someone is an "experienced player"?

Personally I'm still green in many regards of this game, specially in tactical situations, what to do at that exact moment. Strategicaly I'm ok, knowing what would be required of me in a game situation but the problem is failing to find a way to do it (tactical) I guess you learn with more battles. Hence the question. 

 

thx for your insight.

I´d say when you have lost interest in WG:s shady business all together and quit playing

[USS_Billy_Herrington]

I got almost 10k battles under my belt, I'm a filthy T6-7 troglodyte sitting at around 2k ish PR (hidden stats I know, trust me on this) and I still do stupid crap from time to time.
 

[Redcap375]

Clans.... 

 

Clans are the best way to learn how to play this game, players dependent that is (if they aren't all patatoes). 

 

Any half decent clan can tell you the tricks of the trade and you get better. Not just on information but div with good players and see how they play. 

 

They share information, ship builds, captain builds ect.. 

 

But you want a clan that helps their players, I mean truly help them and there aren't that many around. 

[MimosA_A]

48 minutes ago, USS_Billy_Herrington said:

I got almost 10k battles under my belt, I'm a filthy T6-7 troglodyte sitting at around 2k ish PR (hidden stats I know, trust me on this) and I still do stupid crap from time to time.
 

I think people who say don't do stupid crap from time to time (regardless of stats) are what is generally known as a "liar" ;)

[USS_Billy_Herrington]

6 minutes ago, MimosA_A said:

I think people who say don't do stupid crap from time to time (regardless of stats) are what is generally known as a "liar" ;)

Hey wasn't I in a random battle with you yesterday? I was playing a Ryujo, you in a Helena and I asked you if you wanted to get kraken but you declined. Think the map was Two Brothers