Dido class as tier VI Pan Asian cruiser

[ImperialAdmiral]

I just wanted to vent and say I'm angry that one of the community favourite ships is gonna appear as Tier VI Pan Asian Cruiser.

 

People were asking for this iconic, historical ship for ages as part of the Royal Navy tech tree. Either tech line or premium.

 

I feel like we got slap in a face. Again...

[invicta2012]

Oh, is that the Babur?

[ImperialAdmiral]

Just now, invicta2012 said:

Oh, is that the Babur?

[Verblonde]

Just now, invicta2012 said:

Oh, is that the Babur?

According to the might of Wikipedia, that's the only real one that ended up in the right part of the world?

I also note she's of the second batch (fewer turrets), so she doesn't preclude getting Dido herself...

[Verblonde]

1 minute ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

That's a 'nope' then.

 

This is rather taking the pi$$ - it's not like there isn't a 'real' Pan-Asian Dido to go at...

[BraveExpress]

Yeah, not having a RN Dido class announced before this line is a disgrace in my eyes.

 

It's like, the only new model in the lineup, the rest are copy paste and turret swaps. Speculation, but I guess this is what happens when new lines come out more often, some become much lower effort to keep up the pace of releases...

[fumtu]

11 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Oh, is that the Babur?

 

No it is not. Considering its name I would guess that it will be imaginary Malaysian Dido as was an Malaysian frigate KD (their equivalent of HMS) Rahmat.

[ImperialAdmiral]

1 minute ago, fumtu said:

 

 Malaysian Dido

My brain hurts to understand why though even????

 

[fumtu]

5 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

My brain hurts to understand why though even????

 

 

Probably because they needed a ship to fill a whole in the line. Do you think they care about real history?

[Yedwy]

32 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

I just wanted to vent and say I'm angry that one of the community favourite ships is gonna appear as Tier VI Pan Asian Cruiser.

 

People were asking for this iconic, historical ship for ages as part of the Royal Navy tech tree. Either tech line or premium.

 

I feel like we got slap in a face. Again...

Dont worry I am sure dido will be premium in rn tree, if they made the model its easy c/p

[fumtu]

2 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

its easy c/p

 

Yup, and we all know that WG is very proficient in this skill, I mean just look at the new line

[Verblonde]

Easy choice here (FAO @MrConway et al):

1. Go ahead as is, and pi$$ off anyone with an enthusiasm for tea.
2.  Repeat the process used for Boise i.e. release this fictitious Dido for PA, and at the same time release the same ship with a different skin as HMS Dido herself (or a later Batch 1, if it's a premium and we are getting a silver line later) for the RN. The tea drinkers will be happy, and plenty of daft buggers will buy both.

[Fatal_Ramses]

VI already has Huaghe and Anshan? VII does not have a single pan-asia premium ship yet?

*edit

Oh my bad, didn't notice a new line release.

[ImperialAdmiral]

12 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Probably because they needed a ship to fill a whole in the line. Do you think they care about real history?

I'm mean I know they don't care about it. But I'm still astonished that they do such "mental tumbles". 

Possible acquirement of such ship would be late 50's or early 60's.

When Malaya gain real independence from British Empire.

So middle Cold war? Who the **** needs that in WWII game?

[invicta2012]

Just now, fumtu said:

Probably because they need a ship to fill a whole in the line. Do you think they care about real history?

An awareness of geo-politics might have helped, I suppose. The chances of Britain supplying Malaysia or Indonesia with warships is pretty thin, I think. 

 

So it's a line of small-calibre gun cruisers? That's an interesting idea. 

 

V is Arethusa / Huang He (why not the Etna class?

VI is Dido

VII is Oakland

VIII is Soviet - those are the same guns as Kiev

IX looks like a sort of Juneau / Seattle hybrid

X is Austin

 

 

[Verblonde]

Here's the relevant Dev Blog BTW: https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/211

 

Leaving aside the Dido sulk, it actually looks like it could be quite a nice interesting line (depending on how shafted by gimmicks etc. it ends up being)...

[Marblehead_1]

I really was hyped when I saw Pan American cruisers news early this day. Of course it was joke and we get this. No Taksin class for Pan-Asia? This could be easily sold as ITA CL premium in different armament.

 

TVIII is one of MLK Soviet concepts of small light cruiser. We have MLK-8-152 and infamous MLK-16-130 in game so now this is quiet interesting overwiev of such concept. 

TIX. What is this? Kid of Oakland and Seattle with 127mm?

 

I was happy about Mysore so Babur will be not criticized by me but why "invent" something like this? HMS Ulisses from famous Alistair McLean book anyone?

[fumtu]

30 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

I'm mean I know they don't care about it. But I'm still astonished that they do such "mental tumbles". 

Possible acquirement of such ship would be late 50's or early 60's.

When Malaya gain real independence from British Empire.

 

Malay Navy is formed before ww2, and after the war the Royal Navy gave hem some smaller ships. Sure giving/selling them a cruiser is far fetched but WG don't care amd it is not that important. It doesn't matter much when someone obtained ship but when ship was built.

 

29 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

The chances of Britain supplying Malaysia or Indonesia with warships is pretty thin, I think. 

 

Think again as the UK was major supplier of the warship for Malaysia. They even fought on their side during 60s, against Indonesia. 

 

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why not the Etna class?

 

That would require completely new model, this way they just need to modify Huanghe. Lazy job for a lazy line

 

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IX looks like a sort of Juneau / Seattle hybrid

 

It is just modified Austin model. Seattle is way bigger ship than this, while Juneau is basically an Oakland class with somewhat different gun arrangement.

 

[invicta2012]

2 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

Leaving aside the Dido sulk, it actually looks like it could be quite a nice interesting line (depending on how shafted by gimmicks etc. it ends up being)...

I think so. I would have liked Taksin at Tier V but I guess that was a model too far for WG. 

[invicta2012]

13 minutes ago, fumtu said:

Think again as the UK was major supplier of the warship for Malaysia.

Yes, but not a WW2 era cruiser. They were too old by the time Malaysia became a "safe" ally.

 

14 minutes ago, fumtu said:

It is just modified Austin model. Seattle is way bigger ship than this, while Juneau is basically an Oakland class with somewhat different gun arrangement.

Odd turrets, though. Not boxy, like the DD ones, or rounded, like the Austin/Worcester. They look oddly flat, like Seattle. They're certainly not the ones from any DD in game, even the Pan-Asians. 

[fumtu]

1 minute ago, invicta2012 said:

Yes, but not a WW2 era cruiser. They were too old by the time Malaysia became a "safe" ally.

 

Malaysia was always a safe ally, why do you think Royal Navy gave them ships during 50s. And of course they would never gave them a cruiser, maybe they will sold them but certainly not gave them. And what other era cruiser would Royal Navy have to give anyone anyway? Only not ww2 era cruisers they had are Tiger class, which were also laid down during the ww2.

 

1 minute ago, invicta2012 said:

Odd turrets, though. Not boxy, like the DD ones, or rounded, like the Austin/Worcester. They look oddly flat, like Seattle. They're certainly not the ones from any DD in game, even the Pan-Asians. 

 

They are not Seattle turrets, not even close. WG used same turrets as Montana and Midway are using as secondaries. This is a turret for 5"/54 caliber Mark 16 gun, dual mount was never built as far as I know, only a single mount existed. If you have Harekaze, you can see how this turret looked IRL as it is one, probably the worst, of the three different gun options for that ship. It is a similar gun as Gearing used just with a longer barrel.

 

 

[invicta2012]

Gotcha. They *are* a bit flat, though. And not a bad gun, if the Montana's secondaries are anything to go by. 1800 HE damage, 4s reload, but that armour pen will be challenging at high tiers.

 

Wonder what they're going to do with the base reload for Jinan - are they going to take the Fen Yang option and give her a full 8s gun reload in compensation for DWTs with TRB?

[Aethervoxx]

4 hours ago, Verblonde said:

Here's the relevant Dev Blog BTW: https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/211

 

These Pan-Asian all look 'remarkably' the same. Deep water torp gimmick. Can we spell 'additional Gadja Madas?' 

&, as if they are important (at all)  to WoWS anymore, what/who will the T2 to T4 ships be? 

[Thalandor_gaming]

Vor 13 Stunden, ImperialAdmiral sagte:

I just wanted to vent and say I'm angry that one of the community favourite ships is gonna appear as Tier VI Pan Asian Cruiser.

 

People were asking for this iconic, historical ship for ages as part of the Royal Navy tech tree. Either tech line or premium.

 

I feel like we got slap in a face. Again...

the game does not revolve around you. I'm sure there are a lot of people on the asian server who are really excited right about now.

[invicta2012]

2 minutes ago, Thalandor_gaming said:

the game does not revolve around you. I'm sure there are a lot of people on the asian server who are really excited right about now.

That's a very WG view. No-one is angry at people in Asia who may be happy about getting a line of cruisers. We hope they enjoy "their" ships.

 

What people are cross about - justifiably - is that WG haven't given the *single most requested real world RN cruiser not yet in the game* to one of the navies in which it served (RN, RNZN, Pakistan Navy). The Dido class was very varied, appeared in lots of configurations, they could have announced Dido as an RN Premium on the stream and then added a variant version for the PA line, and everyone would have been happy. Instead they've made people annoyed. There's just a general out-of-touch oafishness about them at the moment - if they can get it wrong, they will, and they'll be surprised at the reaction and say this is what the spreadsheet tells them most people want.