PSA: 6 YEARS of WoWS perma camos won't give you ship XP bonuses, only commander and FreeXP

[wot_2016_gunner]

So, i've noticed that the 6 Years of WoWS perma camos don't give you any Ship XP (or battle XP) bonuses, only commander XP and FreeXP bonuses (+50%); Just wanted everyone to know before they would buy them.

I've check and it wasn't specified anywhere what the perma camo bonuses were and i think as many we assumed they would be the same as the standard perma camo (-10% cost, which is still there and +50% XP) but apparently they are not and instead the +50% Xp is replaced with a +50% commander XP and +50% FreeXP. If you don't belive me, just check in your armoury.

 

I hoenstly feel pretty disappointed, 'cause i was looking forward to these camos and i was planning to get 2 of them (Lyon and Yorck) but after checking the modifiers i think i'll pass even on these ones because why would i get a perma camo if i then eran just as much XP as i would do without it? Sure it still has the cost reduction, but at T7 you don't need a cost reduction yet; actually you don't even need a perma camo yet.

 

Let me know your opinions guys 

 

 

 

 

P.S. @TheWarJaC were these camos always supposed to be like this?

[Smeggo]

These permacamos are really useless, unless you don't have any.

 

But on what boxes these festive-tokens are best spent?

[tocqueville8]

Just now, wot_2016_gunner said:

I hoenstly feel pretty disappointed, 'cause i was looking forward to these camos and i was planning to get 2 of them (Lyon and Yorck) but after checking the modifiers i think i'll pass even on these ones because why would i get a perma camo if i then eran just as much XP as i would do without it? Sure it still has the cost reduction, but at T7 you don't need a cost reduction yet; actually you don't even need a perma camo yet.

Sure, it's bad if your idea was to use the camo to grind or re-grind the ship.

 

But for instance, I have already grinded them, I'm not going to re-grind them (I choose other lines for that) and I have a permacaptain for some of them, so the extra cpt xp and free xp would be all that actually matters to me.

 

Personally, I'm more disappointed with the limited ship selection: no KGV, Fiji, Helena, Shiratsuyu, Algerie, Nagato, Myoko...it's missing lots of real ships in favor of paper ships (Lyon and Yorck, for instance).

[Gwynbleidd11]

Just noticed, that's kinda sucks...

 

However, overall, free xp and commander xp bonus is similar to regular xp bonus. Just dont help with grinding and daily containers.

 

Still, I plan to spend all my tokens for them. They look good and most of these T7 are keepers for Narai, some coop or Brawl. 10% cheaper repair and concealment bonus are always usefull. Just need to pick 5 out of 6, since I'll be short of tokens...

[Gwynbleidd11]

7 minutes ago, Smeggo said:

These permacamos are really useless, unless you don't have any.

 

But on what boxes these festive-tokens are best spent?

 

Of course, Distant Voyages. They drop random permacamos, 14 special flags or 14 camos for only 10 tokens. Really good deal, if you dont want permacamos or have a lot of tokens 

[Gnirf]

1 hour ago, Gwynbleidd11 said:

 

Of course, Distant Voyages. They drop random permacamos, 14 special flags or 14 camos for only 10 tokens. Really good deal, if you dont want permacamos or have a lot of tokens 

Problem is the limited supply, as a whale given the tokens I could get the gift containers f.e. 25 does not make up for the lost containers at T9. I will get the camos if they are as stated above a 50% Cpt Xp and FreeXP is worse than 50% XP so it is miore for collecting as I guess they will be added to the lists in Distant voyages or similar in the future. Well it will be a lot of one/off camos at least

[Gnirf]

1 hour ago, tocqueville8 said:

Sure, it's bad if your idea was to use the camo to grind or re-grind the ship.

 

But for instance, I have already grinded them, I'm not going to re-grind them (I choose other lines for that) and I have a permacaptain for some of them, so the extra cpt xp and free xp would be all that actually matters to me.

 

Personally, I'm more disappointed with the limited ship selection: no KGV, Fiji, Helena, Shiratsuyu, Algerie, Nagato, Myoko...it's missing lots of real ships in favor of paper ships (Lyon and Yorck, for instance).

Yes but 50% XP is still working for cpt xp and 50% more XP so it is worse for all other players while for you it would have been the same.

[SodaBubbles]

1 hour ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

So, i've noticed that the 6 Years of WoWS perma camos don't give you any Ship XP (or battle XP) bonuses, only commander XP and FreeXP bonuses (+50%); Just wanted everyone to know before they would buy them.

I've check and it wasn't specified anywhere what the perma camo bonuses were and i think as many we assumed they would be the same as the standard perma camo (-10% cost, which is still there and +50% XP) but apparently they are not and instead the +50% Xp is replaced with a +50% commander XP and +50% FreeXP. If you don't belive me, just check in your armoury.

 

I hoenstly feel pretty disappointed, 'cause i was looking forward to these camos and i was planning to get 2 of them (Lyon and Yorck) but after checking the modifiers i think i'll pass even on these ones because why would i get a perma camo if i then eran just as much XP as i would do without it? Sure it still has the cost reduction, but at T7 you don't need a cost reduction yet; actually you don't even need a perma camo yet.

 

Let me know your opinions guys 

 

 

 

 

P.S. @TheWarJaC were these camos always supposed to be like this?

You have got to be kidding. 

So. Out. Of. Touch. 

Was going to get the one for Yorck, thanks for the tip. 

[Maris_Piper]

So the Deck Chair Camo' are pretty Meh then, Shocked!!!! 

[tocqueville8]

16 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

Yes but 50% XP is still working for cpt xp and 50% more XP so it is worse for all other players while for you it would have been the same.

Indeed it is worse, I'm just saying there's a pretty common situation in which you don't care.

[Fubear]

2 hours ago, tocqueville8 said:

But for instance, I have already grinded them, I'm not going to re-grind them (I choose other lines for that) and I have a permacaptain for some of them, so the extra cpt xp and free xp would be all that actually matters to me.



It's still worse, as the FXP/CXP multipliers don't stack with other flags. Which is the same issue people have with the Missouri mission replacing the base bonus.

 

For example, if you play a game which earns you 1,000 XP with a 50% FXP flag

• Using a 50% XP Camo you earn: ((1000*1.5)*0.05)*1.5 = 112.5 FXP
• Using a 50% FXP Camo you earn (1000*0.05)*2 = 100 FXP

As you can see there is a 10% difference in FXP gained between a XP and FXP bonus when using flags.

[Aragathor]

2 hours ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

Let me know your opinions guys

Hard pass.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 2 Stunden, Smeggo sagte:

But on what boxes these festive-tokens are best spent?

None. I hope they will be compensated with credits once the event is over.

[wot_2016_gunner]

Proprio ora, MementoMori_6030 ha scritto:

I hope they will be compensated with credits once the event is over.

yes

 

"You can only earn Festive Tokens from battle performance bonuses. With the release of Update 0.10.10, Festive Tokens will be converted into Credits at the rate of 1:90,000."

[Karasu_Browarszky]

They might be of use on elite ships, though. Depending on how much of an eyesore they are.... Thanks for the info.

[Verblonde]

2 hours ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

Let me know your opinions guys 

They've done this before; for example, this is a previous anniversary cammo:

 

 

I quite like having alternative bonuses, as it means I can focus on different xp types depending on which one I mount. Of course, that only works if you have more than one option (in this case the 'red ones go faster - it's physics, innit!' option gives the standard bonuses)...

[wot_2016_gunner]

Proprio ora, Karasu_Hidesuke ha scritto:

They might be of use on elite ships, though. Depending on how much of an eyesore they are.... Thanks for the info.

yeah, that makes sense. 

Just sharing the info so everyone is aware

[wot_2016_gunner]

2 minuti fa, Verblonde ha scritto:

They've done this before; for example, this is a previous anniversary cammo:

 

I quite like having alternative bonuses, as it means I can focus on different xp types depending on which one I mount. Of course, that only works if you have more than one option (in this case the 'red ones go faster - it's physics, innit!' option gives the standard bonuses)...

oh, i had forgot about that one

[lafeel]

I don't have any problems with those personally.

 

Do have a problem with CarNOt having a 25 second main battery reload however..

[ApocalypseMeeow]

9 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

None. I hope they will be compensated with credits once the event is over.

90k per Token...

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 2 Minuten, ApocalypseMeeow sagte:

90k per Token...

So buying a T5, farming the token, selling the T5 and trading the token for credits is not an option... 

[tocqueville8]

50 minutes ago, Fubear said:

It's still worse, as the FXP/CXP multipliers don't stack with other flags. Which is the same issue people have with the Missouri mission replacing the base bonus.

 

For example, if you play a game which earns you 1,000 XP with a 50% FXP flag

• Using a 50% XP Camo you earn: ((1000*1.5)*0.05)*1.5 = 112.5 FXP
• Using a 50% FXP Camo you earn (1000*0.05)*2 = 100 FXP 

As you can see there is a 10% difference in FXP gained between a XP and FXP bonus when using flags.

 

Right, but if you use a ship xp flag instead:

 

- a 50% ship xp camo (what we expected) gives you 1000 * 2 * 0.05 = 100 FXP

- a 50% FXP camo (like these Anniversary ones) gives you 1000 * 1.5 * 0.05 * 1.5 = 112.5 FXP

 

So the 2 things are reversed.

Generally, I keep my flags for high-tier grinds. When I play, say, the Fuso (permacamo and permacaptain), I don't run economic flags at all.

[Maris_Piper]

Is it jut me or does this whole Crapy Birthdey Ship Show seem an exercise in trying to garb money whilst giving away  All worth having, Basically S.N.A.F.U. No New Leaf Then 

[tocqueville8]

5 minutes ago, Maris_Piper said:

Is it jut me or does this whole Crapy Birthdey Ship Show seem an exercise in trying to garb money whilst giving away  All, Basically SNAFU. No New Leaf Then 

I don't understand where the money-grabbing is supposed to happen.

 

I'll be getting some 40 supercontainers and hundreds of special signals absolutely for free: all I have to do is play the game, which I'd be doing anyway.

[Aethervoxx]

I require Commander & Free Exp bonuses, however, I won't be using  these 6 yr perma camos - the camo is BUTT UGLY!