WeeGee desperate for money?

[lovemasin]

Why do i have to retrain my commander if i move him from Hood to Queen Elizabeth? Hood is premium and the queen is not. same for Diana to Sinop???????? Is WeeGee so desperate for money?

[Verblonde]

5 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

Is WeeGee so desperate for money?

If they are, it's nothing new. You've always had to retrain captains for any silver ship; it's only plonking them in premiums (and/or specials) that doesn't require retraining.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

The ship is premium, I'm assuming the captain is not? In that case, only a captain moving TO a premium ship doesn't need retraining. A captain trained for a premium ship has always had to retrain for silver ships as far as I know.

 

And yes, WG has designed this game to make anyone who's in for a bit of experimentation, pay a pretty hefty fine. It's a typical WG way of designing fun and engaging gameplay I guess?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[lovemasin]

Diana is a premium ship got her in a premium loot box the T2-T4 loot box. With a 10 point commander.

[Verblonde]

Just now, lovemasin said:

Diana is a premium ship got her in a premium loot box the T2-T4 loot box. With a 10 point commander.

Any captain (of the right nationality) can be put *into* that ship without retraining.

 

That captain (trained for Diana) can be put into any other premium ship without retraining.

 

The same Diana captain will need retraining if you put them into any silver ship (and any time you want to move them on to another silver ship, and so on).

 

This is one reason that it's a good idea to maintain a stash of Elite captain XP, as you can use that in place of doubloons for retraining (assuming you don't want to play the captain in a premium whilst they're being retrained for the silver ship).

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

6 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

Diana is a premium ship got her in a premium loot box the T2-T4 loot box. With a 10 point commander.

Yes, but the captain is a regular captain trained for the Diana, only the ship is premium. If you want to move a captain that is specifically trained for a premium ship to another ship, it has always been something we need to pay for, either in gold or captainXP as far as I can recall. Sorry, that's how WG made it. The positive is once you trained your captain for a silver ship, you can swap it to the Diana without having to train the captain back to the Diana itself. You can use that captain on the Diana whenever you want to. Verblonde explained it (faster).

[Miragetank90]

4 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

Diana is a premium ship got her in a premium loot box the T2-T4 loot box. With a 10 point commander.

 

Yes, but the captain is trained for Diana. Not Sinop and the latter is a silver ship. 

 

If you had Sinop with a 10-pt captain moving to Diana or any other prem ship, THEN it would not need retraining. 

[lovemasin]

Just now, Miragetank90 said:

 

Yes, but the captain is trained for Diana. Not Sinop and the latter is a silver ship. 

 

If you had Sinop with a 10-pt captain moving to Diana or any other prem ship, THEN it would not need retraining. 

Was it not the opeset. You have a commander train them on a premium and then use them on a silver ship? I had that in my memmory.

[Khaba_Gandalf]

Works as it always did for the last four years... 

 

 

[Miragetank90]

4 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

Was it not the opeset. You have a commander train them on a premium and then use them on a silver ship? I had that in my memmory.

 

Nah, it never was like that. Like @Verblonde and @Europizza have said as well.

[lovemasin]

Just now, Miragetank90 said:

 

Nah, it never was like that. Like @Verblonde and @Europizza have said as well.

Ok tnx. :) Still a crap concept :D 

[Verblonde]

16 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

You have a commander train them on a premium and then use them on a silver ship?

You're close; the sequence is something like this:

1. You have a captain that you want to use in another ship; if it's a premium ship, no problem, otherwise move to 2.
2. Insert captain in the silver ship you want to use them with; you will need to retrain, and you get several options in the way of payment: doubloons, elite xp, or silver (I think); the first two are 100% retraining, the third isn't.
3. If you used one of the 100% retraining methods, you're good to go; if you didn't, you now have a captain assigned to the ship, but without functioning skills.
4. Take that captain and put them in a premium; their skills will function there, and the captain xp you earn will push the captain towards being eventually 100% trained for the silver ship.

I may be fuzzy on some of the detail, as I always use elite xp or doubloons to 100% retrain, but I have several 21 point captains, and I'm a whale.

[Capra76]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the OP starts retraining the captain for QE, he can actually generate the XP for that on the Hood without a skill penalty.

[T0byJug]

4 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the OP starts retraining the captain for QE, he can actually generate the XP for that on the Hood without a skill penalty.

YES.... that was one of original reasons for a prem ship same in tanks..  Assighn to new ship.   then use a prem for the retraining cost

[NewHorizons_1]

13 minutes ago, T0byJug said:

YES.... that was one of original reasons for a prem ship same in tanks..  Assighn to new ship.   then use a prem for the retraining cost

Interesting, I suspected this might be possible - but really wasn't sure

So I guess the sequence of events are

1) Move captain to a silver ship

2) Play 1 battle in the silver ship to begin retraining for that ship

3) The move the captain to a premium ship  - after playing X battles in the premium the captain will be retrained completely for the silver ship

[T0byJug]

13 minutes ago, NewHorizons_1 said:

Interesting, I suspected this might be possible - but really wasn't sure

So I guess the sequence of events are

1) Move captain to a silver ship

2) Play 1 battle in the silver ship to begin retraining for that ship

3) The move the captain to a premium ship  - after playing X battles in the premium the captain will be retrained completely for the silver ship

you don't even have to do that.. assign a captain to a ship.. then put him into a prem ship to retrain..  you don't have to play a single game in the silver ship you have assigned him to This has been about since before 17th Sept 2015  so when the game was still in closed Beta.  to be honest I'm surprised that people that have been around as long as you all did not realise this..

[Verblonde]

44 minutes ago, T0byJug said:

I'm surprised that people that have been around as long as you all did not realise this..

I thought that the mere act of putting a captain in a silver ship was sufficient (with a few mouse clicks) to get them reassigned to that silver ship, and that you could immediately move them 'back' to whatever premium you wanted to do the training with.

The reason I get fuzzy with the detail of part retraining is that I almost never don't 100% retrain via doubloons (or captain xp increasingly these days)...

[Ronchabale]

10 hours ago, lovemasin said:

Diana is a premium ship got her in a premium loot box the T2-T4 loot box. With a 10 point commander.

That is how you make money on a "free" ship

[Yedwy]

11 hours ago, lovemasin said:

 Is WeeGee so desperate for money?

yes

[SV_Kompresor]

11 hours ago, lovemasin said:

Still a crap concept :D 

Nah, it's pretty normal. It prevents exploits.

 

9 hours ago, Verblonde said:

thought that the mere act of putting a captain in a silver ship was sufficient (with a few mouse clicks) to get them reassigned to that silver ship, and that you could immediately move them 'back' to whatever premium you wanted to do the training with.

And that's exactly how it is.

[Onsterfelijke]

11 hours ago, Miragetank90 said:

 

Yes, but the captain is trained for Diana. Not Sinop and the latter is a silver ship. 

 

If you had Sinop with a 10-pt captain moving to Diana or any other prem ship, THEN it would not need retraining. 

I am almost sure those captains are trained for the nation T1 cruiser when you get a 'free' captain with a premium ship. So you have to retrain them ...

[Prophecy82]

12 hours ago, lovemasin said:

Is WeeGee so desperate for money?

 

They arent desperate for it.... they just love money a bit more then other PPL. 

 

 

[Shaka_D]

F2p games like this understandeably make their money by hiding some things behind direct or indirect paywalls. Some paywalls are ok, some are definitely not.

[Verblonde]

4 hours ago, Onsterfelijke said:

I am almost sure those captains are trained for the nation T1 cruiser when you get a 'free' captain with a premium ship. So you have to retrain them ...

Nah, they're trained for the ship that fell out of a crate; it doesn't make any practical difference though, as you still have to retrain that captain if you want to use them in a silver ship.

 

As an illustration, my Fujin fell out of a Satan box, and I still have this chap in reserve:

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

17 hours ago, lovemasin said:

Why do i have to retrain my commander if i move him from Hood to Queen Elizabeth? Hood is premium and the queen is not. same for Diana to Sinop???????? Is WeeGee so desperate for money?

I may have misunderstood but the way I do it is, I have my 21 point legendary captains on one echa great silvership that i play a lot then I move them around on all the other premiums I have of that nation but his training for the silvership always remains.

 

Like this:

Cunningham: Trained for Conqueror (silvership), and also used on Thunderer (OP on these 2), Nelson, Belfast, Cossack etc etc.

Yamamoto: Trained for Kitakaze (silvership) and also used on Atago .... 

IJN Dragon captain Trained for Shimakaze, also used on Kamikaze R and Asashio (IJN Torp build)

US Guy (?): Trained for Woostah, also used on Mass, Georgia, Somers...